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Mallard 75

Hi - tomorrow marks the 75th anniversary of 75th anniversary of steam locomotive Mallard's record-breaking run, when it reached a speed of 126mph, a record that still stands for steam. This is being marked in a big way with a reunion of all 6 surviving locos of the class at the National Railway Museum (including 2 from North America). I've posted a note on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways asking for help in improving the article to OTD standards (and I'll pitch in tonight). If we can get it ready in time, would you be willing to swap it in for tomorrow's OTD? An optimist on the run!   10:15, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that would be great. We do prefer round-number/significant anniversaries when possible. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 16:06, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

I've done what I can, enough I feel to justify removing the maintenance tags. It's not perfect by a long way, but hopefully good enough for OTD. An optimist on the run!   20:17, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, there are still two completely unreferenced sections. That's not going to qualify. —howcheng {chat} 22:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

There is a whole section of references at the bottom, which I'm sure will cover the important parts of the article (including the so-called "unreferenced" sections). I agree it lacks in-line citations in some areas, but whilst these are preferred, it's not essential. An optimist on the run!   05:29, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Alas, it is for OTD purposes. I haven't tagged the article myself, but it appears on the Main Page, I guarantee someone will come along and do it. —howcheng {chat} 05:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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Removal of my page as John W. Allen

I am not sure who you are but my page had nothing wrong period. I do have a website but it is a data information website on my 33-years of research regarding neurotropic fungi. Every paper listed that I noted are my copyrighted material. As are the more than 16,000 photographs on my website, and the 11 books I wrote, one of which sold over 103,000 copies making it the best selling field guide ever on magic mushrooms. I have more than three dozen papers in numerous prestigious academic journals, including the Journal of Ethnopharmacology, Yearbook for Ethnomedicine and the Study of Consciousness, The Journal of Psychedelic Drugs, Boston Mycological Society News Letter, University of Hawaii's Botanical Notes, Integration, the Journal of Mind-Moving Plants and Kulture, High Times Magazine, Shroom Talk Magazine, Psychedelic Illuminations, TRP (The Resonance Project) TRIP Magazine, Heads Magazine (Canadian Magazine), Treating Yourself (Medical Marijuana magazine), Anthologies such as Psychedelics Reimagined, Ralph Metzner's Teonanacatl: Sacred Mushrooms of Visions And many more.

Over the past ten years or so I keep seeing other people changing references and citations that I inserted here of my work that had other people change what I put there and found many were posting false data and trying to make my remarks or citations as inaccurate. I found dozens of instances of my copyright materials pasted all over Wikipedia regarding species lists that had other peoples names as the authors or in many instances I noticed that where I posted updates and corrections that people I do not know come along and change something I said and make comments that are not true. I change them back and two or three months later I find some more creeps came along and removed my cited references to their errors. Now I totally forgot about this page that says talk. My name is john W. Allen and I am exactly as I said I was when I wrote the page you removed by me. Yes, Howchang, You removed my page. I have no idea why and also, as a scholar I find that insulting to me and consider what you did as a really shitty thing to do to me without contacting me at my email number. You asked for all to contribute here and why should I when people here are removing my materials and photos and other items. Maybe you need to look at my friggin website. I sell nothing on that site and I provide the world with the largest collection of free information about psilocybian mushrooms. Every now and then, I see Erowid referenced here as a source to my materials and that when I go to Erowid I find that they are creating lists from my list and those papers at Erowid are my copyrighted materials, yet you allow people to do that when a link list Erowid as the source, but the person correcting what is noted as errors by me are not errors by me. And then to change the structure of my work, some with other scholars as co-authors and list their names as if they created the listings as a source for a citation however when you go to those Erowid links, they copy materials from my copyrighted materials and put their names as sources.

From Jonathan Ott, to R. Gordon Wasson, Richard Evans Schultes, Terence McKenna, Christian Rätsch, the late Tim Leary, and about 300 other scholars I personally know and have lectured with over the years can all vouch about my credentials. Between 1977 and 2011, I have presented worldwide, over 100 major lectures, slide presentations and mushroom cultivation and identification workshops, from Amsterdam to South and Southeast Asia and with the University of Hawaii at Manoa and also as an associate with the Department of Microbiology of Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. Your deletion of my page was an accusation that what I put there was improper, or false or malicious, etc. Maybe a lawsuit might be appropriate. I say that because I am too old for someone to play this kind of game with me. At the moment I cannot put anything here because I do not comprehend your policy notations on how to post something. But every reason you listed as why you deleted my page is a problem to me. So I am old and feeble minded. of which I did not understand anything you listed because I consider your deletion of my page has made me feel that you have maligned my qualifications and credentials and I consider that as libel and slandered towards me and my status as one of the world's foremost experts on all aspects of magic mushrooms and what I probably posted only was a small representation of me and my work. If I listed citations or references and left out tags or whatever methods you require then you should have had the courtesy to write to me about it. I have no idea what was on that page because I cannot find it here. I have been presented with many honors and awards for my accomplishments over the years in the field of psychedelic drugs, mushrooms, and I am also one of the original editors for Mark Merlin and Robert C. Clarke' new book on Hemp and Marijuana. I have also written chapters for books on the plants of Chuuk and Yap Islands in Micronesia and everything I have written is considered as outstanding research. Period. So why did you removed my page? I just realized it is 4 am in the morning almost and I am too old to have to write this letter to a website that is suppose to be reliable. Now I understand why some of my colleagues consider this not a good site. I hope you have the courtesy to explain that to me how you came to the conclusions about my page because all the data was from articles that were peer reviewed by scholars such as I noted above and were honest published materials by me. As my books and 11 journals and 3 mushroom CD-ROMs are my own copyrights. From my own publishing companies, my own published books on magic mushrooms and my academic papers I published, all of which I have permission to use as long as I cite the journals that some of my publications appeared in. I have never lied or falsely made claims about my work or contributions to the field of ethnomycology. To me, I feel that you were libelous in my eyes towards me and as I noted, you did not even send me an email or anything about this page. I am old, and I am dying.

I am a physically disabled 70-year-old veteran and in the winter of 2007, I suffered a horrible accident that left me with a minor permanent spinal injury, two broken arms and the complete loss of my right elbow that was shattered into over 100 pieces and was replaced with an actual titanium artificial elbow that looks exactly like a mushroom. So with that for a start, I can no longer play guitar or keyboards. Then I learned I had type 2 diabetes that was caused when I quit smoking cigarettes for ten years and the diabetes also is now affecting my vision that is in a range of 70% to 35% for each eye. Vision that makes it hard for me to even see. My latest journal and final one on mushrooms is published at maps.org by Rick Doblin. It is Ethnomycological Journals: Sacred Mushroom Studies vol. IX. 201 pages, three articles (5 authors and I), one book review by Nestles chief chemist Dr. Tjakko Stijve who has now retired. And 246 full colored photos, including 20 - 8 and 1/2 X 11 inches in size.

And in the words of Dr. Jonathan Ott, I am described by Jonathan Ott in his forward to my fact-finding data disc CD-ROM, Teonanácatl: A Bibliography of Entheogenic Fungi, along with Dr., Jochen Gartz of the University of Leipzig in Germany, as one of the worlds foremost experts in the counter-culture movement on the history and use of entheogenic fungi.

To be treated such as you did to me is an insult to my service to this country. I do not understand any of the formatting of these pages. I tried to create a page on me so people would be even more aware of my work. I will note that if you fail to contact me then I am of the opinion that you are not a good person for the job you are doing.

John W. Allen, mjshroomer1@yahoo.com

So please write me and explain to me what was wrong with whatever I posted here that you removed and failed to inform me. I only learned about this removal after a friend said he typed my name into your search box and two other people named John W. Allen show up but I am not one of them. I am also one of three editors of Teo, the Mushroom Journal and still currently have 5ive papers and two books in preparation or in press. My last works will be a pictorial of the cultivation, harvesting, curing and manufacture of Thai Commercial Tobacco and a reprint of my Opium Poppy Cultivation book.

Oh yes Mr. Howchang, if that is even your real name, My first book, "Magic Mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest, a 24-page black and white manual was paid for by the Federal Government who gave me a $2000.00 grant in 1974 to attend a six-month graphic Arts Course. I published in July of 1976, selling over 20,000 copies at $1.00 a book to my distributor and the book was $1.75 for the first 12,000 copies. I did it all, the typesetting, the offset photography, burnt the plates, striping and masking, then printed the book on an AB Dick Offset press, then collated the paper and hand stapled with a machine after hours each day, put the book together. I did that on 7 books and then 3 CD-ROMS. I also sold several other manuals on natural highs and on Kratom. So I am very angry and upset that I was treated the way you treated me. I am not sure now how to sign this but if it disappears when I save it, then I am going to really go on an old dying man's warpath at Wikipedia. Since I am really dying and this is not a game to me, I have nothing more to lose since I won't be around more than a few more years. I do not need this kind of stress or conflict as I feel from just trying tonight for three hours to replace this page the right way and each time nothing works. Now it says I need to put a signature here so I hope it works as now I am scattered from the way I feel you treated me. Then we can discuss the many pages where I put things that were true AND are no longer on those pages. I would mainly inquire why I should post anything here whatsoever, because I find the very field I am in is being filled by mindless young adults who provide their own brand of false information. One example, is the story that the Vikings ate Amanita muscaria which they allegedly drank a potion that became known as 'Berserkers." And after they would go berserk into battles. Well numerous scholars debunked that very old wives tale long ago, and I have letters from scholars that say so. I also, over the past 25-years or so, shown images of the deadly mushroom Galerina autumnalis to over 1 couple of hundred people whose interest lay in the collecting and partying with magic mushrooms. 0ver 92% in a survey of 250 participants all informed me they had eaten that mushroom and it gave them all a most rewarding experience. That is a lie since any mycologist will tell you, if you eat this mushroom, it will destroy your kidney and liver within 3-5 days and the amatoxins do not affect one until after 14-20 hours later. Then death comes within 2-5 days. I see errors like that in the names of species all over this site. Mis spelled Latin names. Incorrect species listed as psilocybine containing mushrooms that are not. I just finished a paper on all chemical references and such on the known species, with a blurb from Gaston Guzman the Psilocybe genera expert. I cannot see the text anymore since my eyes are burning from the glasses and the computer screen as one later learns in life, if you wear glasses and look at a computer screen all day, your eyes do not blink. So this letter is a partial waste of my time and effort if you feel you not to respond to this letter by me. I have a learning disability that is called the 'old man syndrome.' I am sick of being sick, and tired of some who would do something like this to me. Or to anyone for that matter. So please, help me if that is what you are here for. I want my page to work but I cannot follow the tesxt and go back and forth. This windows 8 is also causing me problems because it was not install (pre) into this new computer properly so the windows jump all over the screen even when I do not touch it. Now it is 4:30. John W. Allen (talk) 11:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

• Mr. Allen, note that Wikipedia has a policy to keep neutral. Writing John W. Allen (i.e. yourself) is the world's leading expert in something without a citation to a neutral third party source would certainly not be neutral. As for the deletion of your talk page, it appears to have been done because the writing about yourself is not neutral and entirely uncited, yet seemingly attempting to pass as a Wikipedia article. Now, the deletion was 4 years ago... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:52, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
  • P.S. "Howchang" is not my real name: I'm Howard Cheng. I disclosed this on my user page. As for why your page was deleted, writing articles about yourself is strongly discouraged. I see that over four years, you have a total of 25 edits, which suggests that you are not really interested in developing the encyclopedia, but are here only to promote yourself. —howcheng {chat} 16:13, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

How to find an old DYK?

Hello Howcheng. I'm having a difficulty finding the DYK you added a notice for here. Can you please provide a link where I can find the DYK nomination and the assessment process? Thanks--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:31, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

In 2007, we did not have separate pages for nominations. The only place you will find that information is in the page history of T:TDYK (this is the diff where I moved it to the next update). —howcheng {chat} 19:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 21:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. Can you offer your opinion regarding the Infobox photo discussion here? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 19:23, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, again. Sorry to bother you, but another photo (more like a new set of photos) has been found and uploaded, and added to the choices in the discussion. A new issue is which photo those who participated before that photo was added would have favored had they seen it, so I'm requesting that all those who did so view the photo and indicate whether or not their favored photo has changed. Thanks, I really appreciate. Nightscream (talk) 02:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 1

I know you think very clearly about things like this, but this edit at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 1 eliminated the following {{*mp}} [[1995]] – The first '''[[Victoria's Secret Fashion Show]]''' was held at the [[Plaza Hotel]] in [[New York City]]. Obviously, the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show is not the most important article on WP, but it does generate nearly a half million page views per year (half of those coming in November and December). This might be a useful OTD in 2015 and 2020. It may be less useful than I think so please educate me on this issue.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:18, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

P.S. of the nearly 350 GAs, FAs, and FLs I have created, according to my findings at User:TonyTheTiger/QAviews, the 7th or 8th most viewed of my quality articles (depending on how you consider Jon Corzine's news spikes).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:44, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I can foresee the flak we will get for having that article included on OTD because it will seem too much like advertising. I'll have to get the opinion of some women how WP:CSB relates to it: if it's good because it features a event geared towards women, or if it's bad because it objectifies women as sex objects. —howcheng {chat} 15:47, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I just wanted to call your attention to it. I was very surprised how high the annual viewership was so it may give us a chance to get some WP:FASHION content on the main page. I understand that WP:OTD is a bit more conservative than say WP:DYK, which encourages the creation of all types of articles. Looking forward to hearing what kind of feedback you might get. Since we are nearly two years out from a possible main page date, we have plenty of time.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:59, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I asked around and the general consensus was that this article is not appropriate to feature on the Main Page just in terms of notability or impact on the fashion world. Better choices would be New York Fashion Week (if we could cite a date to a reliable source) or Christian Dior S.A. —howcheng {chat} 15:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Mike Godwin

I've been going through Wikipedia:Picture of the day/Unused and noticed that Godwin has not been with the WMF since 2010. Would you object to using his image, either to illustrate the individual or Godwin's law? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:13, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, he's OK now. —howcheng {chat} 03:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, I'll schedule it soon. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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Not a scolding for removing my favorite article from OTD

I know you must hate it when people give you a hard time for omitting their favorite articles from upcoming OTDs, so I'm not going to do that. But I do hope you will keep Phineas Gage in the rotation for Sept 13 in future years -- it's very popular [1]. Thanks for all your hard work. EEng (talk) 10:01, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

As a former psychology student myself, I love Phineas Gage as well, but for OTD purposes we do have a decent pool of articles to choose from, so we try to rotate as much as possible to give each one some Main Page time. Thanks for your work on the article. It looks good. —howcheng {chat} 16:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I understand perfectly. I am glad for your last comment, because not everyone is as pleased as you [2]. One of the reasons I'm sorry the article won't be getting main-page exposure this year is that I was hoping it would attract some new editors more skilled in layout nuance. EEng (talk) 16:44, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

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OTD Stats

Did you notice Wikipedia_talk:Selected_anniversaries#Stats?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:37, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

anti-consumerist

Thanks, Howcheng, for your response to my comment about yesterday's Main Page OTD for 2011, about "consumerism" having two opposite meanings. I got busy doing something else and couldn't fix it in time. I'm not sure what the solution is. --72.66.30.115 (talk) 01:15, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Merkin

Hi Howard, was wondering your opinion on using the Merkin image (it has, after all, been waiting six years). I was thinking of using the first blurb you have at User:Howcheng/MerkinPOTD, but not the second as it may be dated (we have a good number of professional shots donated to us now, though I can't say they are glamour shots) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

With WP having gotten so much negative publicity regarding the treatment of women editors and the whole "American female novelists" dustup (even though that was really nothing but a tempest in a teapot), I still don't think it would be a good idea to put that picture up. But it's your show now, so I leave it to you. —howcheng {chat} 00:00, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Considering Faux News' trending story is about pornography, maybe in a couple months or so. However, since the nude autochrome didn't get much negative feedback, I think the readers can generally accept nudity on the MP, so long as it's not pornographic. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

The difference IMHO is that the autochrome was more artistic. This one is more cheesecake. —howcheng {chat} 00:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

• Fair point, fair point. Alright, have a nice day. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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I have recently added three television shows at WP:OTD for January 15 ("Hill Street Station"), March 21 ("A House Divided (Dallas)") and September 20 ("Pilot (The Cosby Show)"). Although they have remained at OTD, the a DOY editor, Mufka has undone my corresponding additions to two of these three DOY articles. I know you have said that you support including TV episodes at OTD. However, Mufka has removed Hill Street Station from January 15 and removed Pilot (The Cosby Show from September 21. I left Mufka an explanation about the notability of the Hill Street Blues episode. I have even been inspired to start List of awards and nominations received by Hill Street Blues. I am now confused on whether TV episodes are a part of this project. Thus, I am requesting an explanation. I have no problem either way as long as we are consistent.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:52, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Mufka has been doing DOY far longer than me, so I am inclined to respect his judgement. —howcheng {chat} 17:24, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Do you know of any TV shows (especially episodes) that have run on SA?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

I can't think of specific episodes, but there are a few series that have appeared: The Bill, Sesame Street, EastEnders are some examples off the top of my head. There are probably more. —howcheng {chat} 21:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Mufka has finally responded to his talk page. Tell me, if I nominate something at DOY and OTD and it gets removed from DOY, what happens at OTD?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:28, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

One of the OTD rules is that the article must qualify for DOY. If it gets pulled from there, it would not be eligible for OTD either. —howcheng {chat} 03:10, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. Is there any specific reason as to why German Unity Day is in the ineligible section? I understand the article German Unity Day has some issues, but that does not negate the fact of a major national holiday being missing in a section which is supposed to list exactly that: National holidays of the world. --Gliese876 (talk) 18:04, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Howard, I use your image deletion script, and lately, some screwy things have been happening with it. Sometimes, but not always, instead of leaving the notification at the right user page, it puts it at User:Username (page does not exist). (see e.g. [3]) I believe this has happened both when the user page actually does exist, and when it does not. I see you haven't changed the code for the script anytime recently. Any idea what's going on? Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:16, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

That's really weird. I'll look into it. —howcheng {chat} 22:17, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

This is still going on. :( Any thoughts? Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi again, it did this again for me today. You haven't had a chance to investigate this, have you? Do you know who might know what the bug is, if you don't? I would like to be able to go through orphan images to move to commons or nominate for deletion, but it's just not feasible to do it quickly without your script!! Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

No, not really. I was actually trying to rewrite it so it didn't spawn open a bunch of new windows, but haven't had the time to devote to it. —howcheng {chat} 20:31, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

I was inspired to finish this. I did some image patrolling with it and it looks to be good, but I did not come across any weird cases like what you mentioned. We're now using the MediaWiki API to get page data, so user talk page redirects are no longer an issue (unless they're double redirects). Let me know if you find anything. —howcheng {chat} 23:43, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks so much!!! Will let you know if I encounter any bugs. Calliopejen1 (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Howcheng, I am looking to create a new page for the Eikaiwa Shane English School, which is part of the Saxoncourt Group. I occasionally try to keep the articles on the world of eikaiwa in Japan up to date, and I noticed that there was previously an article on Saxoncourt that was deleted for being too much like an advertisement and a copyright violation. I don't have any connection to Shane, but it seems like a bit of a glaring omission now that the Eikaiwa sector in Japan is so well-documented on wikipedia. Saxoncourt does seem to be a sizeable company and notable enough to justify an article.

I was just wondering if you had any objection to a new brief article?

--Eikaiwamonkey (talk) 15:23, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

@Eikaiwamonkey: That would be fine as long as it doesn't have the same problems as the old article did. Have fun. —howcheng {chat} 16:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Sure, will work on it in the near future. --Eikaiwamonkey (talk) 11:21, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

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I didn't build anything like that into the template. I'm sure it's doable. —howcheng {chat} 05:06, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

• Hmm... alright. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:19, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

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You added National Hug Day to December 18, but sources agree National Hug Day is January 21. So you might want to add it to that day instead. Art LaPella (talk) 01:04, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

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I've added some information to the article regarding the disruption to his coronation, so a possible alternative blurb:

• Amid fears of an assassination attempt, William the Conqueror is crowned at Westminster Abbey; rioting occurs when William's soldiers burn peoples homes to the ground to maintain order

Or something to that effect anyway. The information I've added is referenced so you can either play around with it, or keep it as it is --Andrew 21:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, your change was reverted. —howcheng {chat} 22:50, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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I notice that you are removing "refs needed" page tags from articles that have many references missing, including quote cites. In some cases half the page is uncited. [4] [5] [6] [7]. [8] Please advise. Thank you Span (talk) 12:56, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you should use {{cn}} or {{refimprove|section}} tags where needed instead, because apparently we disagree on the level of referencing required. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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my edit Art LaPella (talk) 18:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Brisbane River runs through the heart of Brisbane, not Melbourne, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.168.190.196 (talk) 21:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Duh, brain fart. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 21:18, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Please don't vandalize my talk page

--Unstoppabel Unpredictable Ultra Super Saiyan 5 Sintex (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Gokufan8989 You uploaded a naked picture on Videl on talk page why? and on my talk page? I've reverted your malicious edits

What are you talking about? I have never edited your talk page. —howcheng {chat} 21:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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I just wanted to ask if I could remove the history of my userpage in any way, as it is completely revealing of some information best left unknown to potential seekers of mine. I bid for you to remove it. Informant16 —Preceding undated comment added 04:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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Apart from source inconsistencies, the date of Selkirk's rescue also depends on how you define "rescued". Rogers' two ships did indeed sight Juan Fernández (Más a Tierra) on 31 January. However, weather conditions prevented their going inshore. An impatient Second Captain Dover attempted to get to the island in a ship's boat at 2 p.m. the following day, but bore off when they saw Selkirk's signal fire at nightfall (assuming it might be their French enemies). The flotilla worked its way closer to the island on the 2 February, and Dover got a boat into Cumberland Bay where they made contact with Selkirk. Based on this account, consensus is that Selkirk was rescued on the 2 February. — Dr.Gulliver (talk) 01:46, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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File:Chicago Grant Park night pano.jpg is probably one of the oldest FPs that has not been a POTD. One thought is that it be on the main page on July 16, 2014, the 10th anniversary of Millennium Park, which is part of Grant Park although MP is not really visible in this photo.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) That is... far from the oldest FP that has not been POTD. The recent squid was at least a year older. As I've been managing POTD for a while, I can easily schedule it. In fact, I think I'll do so now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
  • But Tony, the image isn't actually used in the Grant Park article, and as such no blurb is readily apparent. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:37, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
    • I concur. It doesn't really seem to be a suitable date for that photo. If you want to save it for a specific date, I would put in on the anniversary of the Stanley Cup win. —howcheng {chat} 18:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

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Selected anniversaries

Good morning/afternoon/evening!

Do you think it would be possible to include this or this article on 21 or 22 February? Both are Good Articles (with suitable images). Thanks! Mohamed CJ (talk) 09:30, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I like March of loyalty to martyrs better than the first. I know this sounds callous, but "random person who dies during a protest" is not really notable enough for inclusion on the Main Page (unless the death has a similar impact as Death of Neda Agha-Soltan). Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 10:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I think Buhumaid's death was very notable locally; the army withdrew the next day from the Pearl Roundabout (the focal center of protests back then) and he's remembered as a legend who defeated an army with peaceful means. I think Neda's death was more notable internationally because Iran is a large and more powerful country, and because it's not on good relations with the West. On the other hand Bahrain is a tiny island who's on very good relations with the West. Anyway, I don't mind if either article is featured :) Mohamed CJ (talk) 14:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

POCAHONTAS MEDAL DELETED

I deleted the medal image. Although under US copyright law, I thought, could be wrong, BUT I thought a coin or medal, released to the public, could be photo copied/scanned and not violate the law in the least. This is third diatribe I have gone through on copyright. 1)was an image given to me,which I actually e mailed wiki with with the e mail from the image owner stating, I could use it, NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 2)ANOTHER one, ACTUALLY FIT COPYRIGHT LAW, but the editor in question just didnt like it...(hoo hoo hoo) The thhuird was an image i edited, and then I received no less than 3 messages trying to agree as to what % (percentage) I should or should not use....SO, no worries the image is gone...waaaaaay gone. I very much do understand copyright law and its importance, I do not however like the way in which folks enforce it. There is no here is why, there is no notice, its just, OH well, here is the tag, have fun with that ha ha ha. Well, its gone. Coal town guy (talk) 03:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, copyright is really tricky. Please take a look at Commons:Derivative works, which explains the situation when you take a photo (or scan in this case) of 3-D artwork. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 03:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

REALLY??? What about [THIS], its up now. If we apply the logic, several should be rmoved now. Which is it????Coal town guy (talk) 03:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

OR THIS???Coal town guy (talk) 03:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

OR THISCoal town guy (talk) 03:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

All the medals in that article are in the public domain (creators died long ago or are works of the US government), so photos of them only have one copyright attached: that of the photo itself. The other three probably should be deleted. Please remember that since this is a volunteer project, there are always going to be things that slip through the cracks. Thanks for bringing those to my attention. —howcheng {chat} 03:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

There are literally thousands of these pics. Dont you think its possibly more logical to conclude that there must be a law we both cant cite as opposed to the wholesale deletion of thousands of images?? I am aware this is a voluntary project, I volunteer too. I just would like to have a volunteer give me an answer as opposed to a thanks alot and we are all just human..Nope, not good enough. Need specifics. Thats the precise burden placed on me, why should any of us be any different??Coal town guy (talk) 03:25, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

OR THISCoal town guy (talk) 03:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

OR THIS. WHAT is the answer????????Coal town guy (talk) 03:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

OR THISCoal town guy (talk) 03:35, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I gave you the reasoning: Commons:Derivative works. Please take the time to read that very detailed explanation. Short version: All creative works are copyrighted. A photo of a copyrighted work is a derivative work and it has two copyrights: one of the original and one that applies to the photo. If there are literally thousands of images like this, then it will take some time to delete them all. —howcheng {chat} 03:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I took the time. You referred me to an article that has a flowchart. Which is a nice way of saying, you do not know. I could NOT care less what the determination is. Honest. My issue is, the fact that instead of saying, hey I dont know, you refuse. Thats why alot of editors who volunteer leave wikipedia. Editors who do not know who tag things because, hey, its something to do and you are not sure so, lets throw a user at a flowchart and walk away really harm wikipedia. I took my self imposed wiki break because of these types of things. The reality is, I feel no emotion or frustration, BUT try out I dont know once in a while...Hope it helps because the flowchart you gave me was useless. Providing actual facts regardless of the outcome, is far more preferable.Coal town guy (talk) 04:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I understand this is very difficult. I can't give you a blanket answer: the copyright depends on what the picture is of, who made the thing, where the thing is, who took the photo, and the photo's publication info (if it was previously published). Copyrights are complex, that's why there's a flowchart. —howcheng {chat} 04:12, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

• Precisely, Coaltown guy. There is no blanket answer, just a set of questions you have to ask yourself even before scanning the medal. If someone else scanned / photographed something, it's safe to say you can't use it unless that person releases the work under a free copyright license and the coin/medal/w.e. depicted is PD. If the coin/medal/w.e. was created in the US after 1976, and not by the US government, then its safe to say don't scan. There are a lot of possibilities. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC

understood, but to assume, an object sold to celebrate a public event for thousands of people scanned for educational purposes is a copyright violation seems to be beyond the paleCoal town guy (talk) 04:42, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

The purpose for your scan is irrelevant, unfortunately. —howcheng {chat} 04:48, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

• (ec). That they widely disseminate something does not mean that they release all rights to it (after all, usually these things are sold for fundraising and whatnot; there are commercial interests). School textbooks are widely disseminated, for educational purposes, but I've never met someone who assumes they are all public domain. Copyright law does not take into consideration one's purpose for reproducing something, at least when determining if a violation exists. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:50, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

The purpose can have impact, if for example it can be demonstrated that the violation was flagrant, then yes, there are substantial legal issues. Believe it or not, I am very appreciative of both of your feedbacks. PLEASE consider the following, what if, and I do mean what if, I were a brand new user/editor, which I am not, BUT lets assume this. How would you react to being taken to a flow chart with little direction or no comments. BOTH of you, thankfully, have offered comments, and I am grateful, I would however request, that you offer the comments , aforehand as opposed to ANY user asking several questions. You have answered my question, BUT if possible, and probable, BOTH parties in any query can learn somethingCoal town guy (talk) 15:40, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

• "at least when determining if a violation exists." Not in determining other things, such as what form of legal action is necessary. I am unclear what the point of the remainder of your post is. I've replied to you as I would any other user. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:27, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

OKEY DOKEY, many thanks for your reply. Let me be clear. IF an admin or fellow editor tags a photo and states, hey, it should be deleted, fine. WHEN a user asks, WHY, how about shaking things up and telling them why as opposed to, OH, by the way, your image was tagged, its up for deletion, thanks. Its called HELPING OUT YOUR FELLOW VOLUNTEERING EDITORS. I am finished here. I can understand why, any editor or admin would become emotive, because it is rather plain, you do not care to explain why, its just a tagged object and as far as folks here seem to be concerned, thats all they need to do. WHY teach other editors and help others, when it is so much easier to walk away and "understand"?? I am again grateful for the replies here, I am again grateful that after a mere 3 or 4 times of asking, I actually got feedback and now understand...It is possible, just possible that IF it was explained, at the moment of the tagging, we could have all (GASP) learned somethingCoal town guy (talk) 22:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

www.medicobola.yolasite.com want to start it page on wikipedia .please tell me how to start? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.174.20 (talk) 05:42, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Please see my note at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2014 February 14 regarding the medallion's possible PD status. Nyttend (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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I wanted to be certain to say thanks for the copyright search link. Regardless of the determination of the image (Pocahontas Centennial Medal) in question, the data you provided was helpful, and that all I could ask for honestly.Coal town guy (talk) 18:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your forbearance with someone on a cloud of unknowing.cartiemandua (talk) 16:13, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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Wow, I completely missed that. It's fixed now. —howcheng {chat} 05:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Great, thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:43, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Hello. I don't understand your request for sources in the section "In popular culture" of the page Semaphore line. It appears to me unsuitable here (and the template is very ugly!). The section consists entirely in sources (title of novels, sometimes relevant chapters, authors, date of publication). Moreover links are provided to the authors' and novels' pages, where more precision can easily be obtained. So what else is needed? Pagination perhaps? But of which edition? There must be dozens of different editions of "The Count of Monte Cristo" for instance. Sapphorain (talk) 09:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

At the very least, I think the quotes should be cited. It doesn't matter which edition, but I would suggest something online (from Google Books or the Internet Archive) so that readers can just click to verify. Thanks! —howcheng {chat} 10:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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More Relevant to 23 March 2014

Hi,

I was wandering if you could add the following to the On this day page Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/March 23:

• 1889 - The Ahmadiyya Muslim community was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in British India.

I think it is one of the more relevant and better articles that is suitable for "On this day page..." on the Main page. Many Thanks. --Peaceworld 09:15, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

It's too late for this year, but I will include it for the future. Please be sure to add it to March 23 also. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 18:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

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Rwandan Genocide

Hey Howcheng

Please could you have a look at this entry I've added into the on this day page for 7 April: [9]. I'm guessing you haven't got around to updating that page for 2014 yet, but just wanted to check if there will be any issues with that one. This year is the twentieth anniversary of the start of the genocide, so I think it's particularly relevant to have it up this year, although personally I think it's important enough to be there every year (assuming that's the way things work!). I am slowly working through the article with a view to getting it up to featured status; not there yet, but I think it's in reasonably good shape already.

Kudos for all the hard work you put into the Selected anniversaries by the way! Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 11:16, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Looks good. Glad to see that article make it back into SA. —howcheng {chat} 16:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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About this edit – yes, sorry, I didn't mean to break any rules, I'd just forgotten what I was doing! I created the entry for 12 January before I created the one for 13 April, which I did when I realised (at the time) that 13 April was rapidly approaching. In my keenness I then forgot about the 12 January entry, until today – the thing is, actually I think the (now deleted) entry for 12 January is more interesting than the one for 13 April – I would gladly swap them and drop the 13 April entry entirely and forever, what do you think? It's fine by me if you disagree, but I'm not trying to game the system: I'd honestly prefer the 12 January entry over the 13 April one even if it meant it couldn't appear until 2016 at the earliest, and you're welcome to remind me in future that I wrote this! Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 17:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, Howcheng – do please tell me if you'd rather I noted these things elsewhere, maybe at Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries? In the meantime, I've had another look at WP:OTDRULES: I'm pretty sure I stopped reading after criterion 10, so my bad, and, re "[i]deally, any particular selected article should only be listed (be an emboldened entry) once in this queue", I honestly wasn't even thinking about that. The thing is, I think the 12 January anniversary meets criterion 3 better than the 13 April anniversary, which partly covers what I meant by the 12 January anniversary being "more interesting": the "fact" for 12 January is arguably the most outstanding event in the article. Please let me know if there's some reason why I can't do this and would be wasting my time – I'll leave it until tomorrow (Friday) or the day after to give you time to respond – but I suggest that I delete the 13 April anniversary and re-create the 12 January one; maybe also create a section "2015 notes" on the 12 January talk page with a note that Reculver appeared under 13 April in 2014? I realise there's no hurry, but I want to put it to bed as I'm liable to forget (again), and it might as well be done now as next year. Thoughts? Thanks for reading! Nortonius (talk) 12:05, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Go for it. —howcheng {chat} 15:36, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah, thank you, that's great! I'll make a start now. Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 16:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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I notice we don't yet have a page to begin coordinating the next annual LA Wiknic. I felt last year's event was successful. Shall I replicate last year's effort into this year's? Is there a different venue we should consider? Chris Troutman (talk) 02:27, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Go for it. I don't know about a different venue, though. If it gets too far south, it's going to be too far for me to get to. :) —howcheng {chat} 05:12, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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Whipped Peter image description issue, can you help?

I was looking at this image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cicatrices_de_flagellation_sur_un_esclave.jpg and was curious about the story. While the current file description has him as a slave from Mississippi, it appears that his owner was from Louisiana instead. I provided what I found in a few minutes of searching on the talk page. I don't own several of the references, so I can only comment on the portions I could preview. Since this image is widely used on wikipedia, I was hoping someone knowledgeable on the subject could take a look at this...rather than my potentially erroneously editing a number of pages.

I've been looking some more and found another analysis of two images taken of this man and the several stories used for them. American Dolorologies: Pain, Sentimentalism, Biopolitics By Simon Strick, p. 99-101. Since there are several variants on the story, and a match with one then living/soon murdered by soldiers slaveowner. I'm inclined to credit the "Peter with slaveowner Capt. John Lyons" account. It doesn't matter to me which version is determined to be the most credible/verifiable, but it does look like we need to take a closer look at it. The description of where he was from is often used in the captions in articles...so having this be ambiguous is problematic. Red Harvest (talk) 07:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Have not heard anything. At this time it appears that the image description should be changed based on various sources. Actually, the image (person) is probably worthy of a wiki article since the image ranks highly for notability and the story itself is convoluted and would benefit from sourcing.Red Harvest (talk) 18:19, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Turns out another editor had created a page about this person using the Gordon name see: Gordon_(slave). Unfortunately, it relies on the Harper's story which is less detailed about origin in some respects. The multiple name/multiple image aspects will complicate creating a cohesive and cleaned up article. Red Harvest (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

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US-England 1950 WC

I've reverted your changes regarding later citizenship for the three US players who were not citizens at the time with an update to the references regarding Joe Maca having received his citizenship later. I left the old reference in as I think it's useful (I understand why you did not wish to use it as sole source--though the writer is an extremely well-respected US soccer historian), but added a reference from ancestry.com showing the official US Index of Naturalizations showing that Maca received his citizenship in 1957. I think that should suffice. Let me know what you think.Kgilbert78 (talk) 15:39, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. Nice detective work. —howcheng {chat} 16:24, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I got lucky, to be honest. Someone else had updated the Maca page recently with the info--but I would have gone to ancestry right after that. Kgilbert78 (talk) 16:36, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of this article... as a heads-up, Howcheng, I proposed reversion of your moves on the article title of this match at Talk:West Germany 1–0 Austria. Take a look - I think that the year is what should be used for these titles, not the score, just like this section is titled "US-England 1950 WC". SnowFire (talk) 18:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Good Morning,

My name is Joe Kamberos, and I am the assistant to the Project Coordinator for the International Jesuit Ecology Project (IJEP) at Loyola University of Chicago. IJEP is a three-year project to create an online Living Text that addresses select environmental challenges from an integrated scientific, moral, and spiritual perspective. This Living Text, Healing Earth, will be a curricular resource for environmental studies teachers and students in Jesuit institutions of higher education and secondary schools worldwide. You can find more information about IJEP at http://www.luc.edu/ijep/index.shtml.

We are beginning to create the framework for the online text using the Biodiversity chapter. One of our writers found an image of Thomas Berry which I traced to this site https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Thomas_Berry.jpg. We would like to use this image/information in our Biodiversity chapter, but are not familiar with your usage policies.

Will you please send information, or grant permission to use your image with the proper citation?

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you, Joe — Preceding unsigned comment added by OloEopia (talk • contribs) 16:11, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Kamberos, I uploaded this image on behalf of the photographer Caroline Webb. Her web site is at http://caroline-webb.com/. However, she has released this photo under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution license. You may read the terms for that at https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en. Basically, you are free to do anything you want with the image, as long as she is properly credited. In your case, her name and a link to her web site are probably sufficient. You may also wish to drop her a message as a courtesy. Thanks and good luck with your project. —howcheng {chat} 16:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Overlinking

Howard, I just noticed your post at OC's page. "Second World War redirects to World War II"—but both terms are readily understood among all anglophones. It's pretty crowded text in those bullets to be linking anything that doesn't desperately need to be linked, like the chronological items, which are thematic, yeah. Tony (talk) 17:47, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

My complaint isn't WWII isn't linked. Instead, it's that [[World War II|Second World War]] got changed to [[Second World War]]. I don't see why we need to deliberately introduce a redirect. —howcheng {chat} 18:28, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

July 1 anniversary

Hey!

I see you are involved with the anniversary page.

I wrote on the July 1 talk page requesting help with something, would you be able to help me?

Thanks

Larryyr (talk) 22:34, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Link; I've taken the liberty of giving the standard answer. Bencherlite^Talk 23:11, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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My edit. I think this is the first time I have ever completely replaced an On This Day item. Before my edit, the words "Reference issues" would have become visible on the Main Page. I thought about just removing those words, but the 1954 item does have reference issues (when I search for 1954 and click reference 11, it says "dead link", and although it does link to a website, it doesn't say anything about the 1954 event.) So I substituted something from the Eligible list, chosen only because it was first. And I moved the 1954 item to "Ineligible". Art LaPella (talk) 18:01, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

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Your edits on Gibraltar

Hello. I have reverted your edits on Gibraltar since they introduced an error. The difference between Old Style dates and New Style dates wasn't always 10 days, but increased with time, as can be seen in the conversion table in Old Style, being 11 days during the 18th century. So the dates that were given in the article were, and now again are, correct. Thomas.W ^talk 06:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm, Capture of Gibraltar has August 3 as the date of capture. I had chalked it up to an error in date calculation, but it appears that there is a discrepancy between the two articles. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 18:38, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Daniel Hollida y

Why does my wiki page keep getting deleted? I have clearly expressed my intention on having a wiki page, AND DELETING IT IS ADDING TO MY STRESS. Please edit it to make it more accurate, to your own discretion; I am becoming extremely intolerant of this b******t. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DashH90Three (talk • contribs) 21:18, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @DashH90Three: No one is allowed to have a wiki page, Wikipedia is not a webhost for you to write about yourself, and autobiographies are disallowed, too. If you are not here to help write an encyclopedia, then Wikipedia is not for you. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:33, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Of course it isn't a page for an (auto)biography, at no point did I suggest that. I don't care for a wiki page, but considering my online presence is moderated by the EU court of Justice, I am writing my informed consent for a page to be made (if one is deemed necessary). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DashH90Three (talk • contribs) 02:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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Sept 13, if you have a chance (sorry for last-minute request)

I'm guessing it's probably too late for this, but at WP:Selected_anniversaries/September_13 can you swap in this image?

File:Phineas Gage Daguerreotype WilgusPhoto2008-12-19 CroppedWaistUp Unretouched BW.jpg

The aspect ratio of this image makes better use of the 100x100px, so that the size of the tamping iron is much more obvious. While you're at it changing (pictured) to (pictured holding rod) would more clearly, um, drive the point home, so to speak. Thanks. EEng (talk) 19:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

 Done. —howcheng {chat} 05:29, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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Please see my response on Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 3. --37ophiuchi (talk) 21:10, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

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Hello Howcheng, I made a slight edit to this lead-in; if you strongly object you may revert without discussion. — xaosflux ^Talk 05:00, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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Berlin Wall picture

my edit Art LaPella (talk) 17:13, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I totally meant to include that blurb. —howcheng {chat} 06:02, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

OTD for November 11

I'm just curious what needs to be done to get United States Numbered Highways to run on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/November 11‎ one of these years. The entire system of U.S. Highways, hundreds of highways which include U.S. Route 66 as just one example, was initially approved/created on November 11, 1926. The article itself is a GA, so there aren't any quality concerns. I nominated the article back in October 2011, yet it has never appeared. I get that Route 66 itself might be more famous, but that was the first nationwide numbered highway system in the U.S. It may have been eclipsed by the Interstates, but it still has some significance here. Imzadi 1979 → 21:02, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

It's definitely a balancing act: I try to ensure that we have diversity in chronology, location, and topic, while also trying to showcase "milestone" anniversaries (years that are multiples of 10, plus 25 and 75). This year, we've got US topics at 125th and 175th anniversaries, so there was no way it was going to get picked. I don't know why I didn't do it last year, as there was certainly no reason not to use it. —howcheng {chat} 06:06, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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Permission of photo usage

Dear Howard, I am writing to you for your kind permission to use the nice photo of Geoclemys hamiltonii(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geoclemys_hamiltonii.jpg). I want to use it in our student textbook about invasion biology. The URL and your name will appear together with the photo in the textbook. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Mingxing 183.157.160.49 (talk) 08:25, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I have licensed the photo under the Creative Commons CC-BY-SA license, so you don't actually need my permission. The name and URL credit are good enough. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 18:02, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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refimprove

Hi Howcheng, regarding Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/December 21, I just cleaned up Yule-do you see any other issues with it now? — xaosflux ^Talk 18:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to go. I'll stick it back in. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 19:01, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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Mawlid al-Nabī

Hey! today is Mawlid al-Nabī, can we have it on the "On this day" box? Mhhossein (talk) 11:40, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Sure, but is it for Sunni or Shia today? Also, can you please add the Gregorian date to the article infobox? Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 16:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 January 2015

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January 10 anniversary request

Could you possibly take a look at my request at Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/January 10#2015 notes? Prioryman (talk) 22:36, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Infobox photo discussion

Hi again. Happy New Year. Can you offer your opinion on which photo is better for the Infobox here? If you're not able to participate, just disregard this message; you don't have to message me. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:01, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

New lede for Siege of Dunlap's Station

As per your suggestion I reorganized this and made several additions. Bill (talk) 02:12, 10 January 2015 (UTC) Bill Robinson, 9 Jan 2015Bill (talk) 02:12, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Selected anniversaries/January 14

I do not appreciate you reverting my edits on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/January 14 after they had already been locked in. Since you are an admin, and I am not, kindly change the edits back because I cannot. Thank you. Stolengood (talk) 09:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I happened to leave a message on your talk page about it. —howcheng {chat} 09:21, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 14 January 2015

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The Signpost: 21 January 2015

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