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Ditto

Ditto. If you can't keep process and person separate (what is your "us"?) then talking to you obviously isn't going to accomplish much. Marskell 21:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow. Look, I agree with a grand total of none of the things you have brought up. When I speak of "us" and "our", I refer to those of us that work in the GA a project, that work being our edits. If I must type out "GA project participants" every time for clarification purposes, then consider that another reason I don't want to participate in this discussion anymore. I am not going to sway in my position. My view of FA and GA and how they relate to each other isn't changing anytime soon. So let it go. Make your proposals, hash it out. I've said my peace at the Village Pump. Keep the discussion there and hash it out with whoever else decides to comment. Strong oppose. I'm done. Lara❤Love 22:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

"and, in turn, insulting"

For the third time, to criticize a process is not to insult a user. You've deeply personalized your involvement in GA and you should consider its affect on your postings.

And please try to stop mistaking talking points for final drafts. Marskell 13:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

If anyone of your comments showed up on a talk page in regards to FAR, I would not suggest that it was motivated by "hate, disrespect and ignorance" (Bishonen's comment was hyperbolized?). Very, very clearly you've conflated people with processes and along the way you've violated WP:CIV. Nor have my comments remotely matched your last exaggeration: "Insofar as your edits to it have led to content improvement, I applaud you" is a long way from "anyone that has posted to it has wasted their time."

Why would I spend the apx. ten to fifteen hours necessary for a GA (on the subject matter I edit), pause there for procedural edits on GA, and then go back for the extra ten hours needed for more procedural edits on FAC? As I've already said, there's nothing on GA that couldn't be FA. If all I want is a single editor to evaluate it in the middle, user talk is much simpler means. Marskell 14:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Suggesting that criticisms are motivated by hate is incivil. But what struck me is this—the FA regular bitching on the village pump. Assuming bad faith before you'd even talked to me. Marskell 16:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

If you're not sure what someone does and does not hate I'd suggest not throwing the word into the middle of a post with such melodrama. And see, if I told you "I hate GA" I would not be insulting you. I can hate mufflers without insulting mechanics. GA is a process not a person—you seem completely unable to form that separation. I found zero insults among the seven you posted.

I'll reply to two points that relate: non-mainspace edits are a waste and duplicated overhead. There are essential edits and non-essential edits; the former occur in the mainspace, the latter everywhere else. Much as a charity may tell you it spends 80% on programs and 20% on administration, the only real point of evaluation for a Wikipedia process is how much essential editing is channeled to the mainspace relative to the non-essential overhead.

I checked something watching CSI this afternoon (these debates are so much fun). On the three principal wiki talk pages for the two processes (candidates, review, and main list) the following tip-tapping has been done in 2007: 1.2 megabytes of talk for GA, 1.5 for FA. That's 2.7 non-essential megs. And the question then is: how much of this is truly redundant insofar as content improvement could have been served without it? Given that GA and FA perform identical functions with only slightly different standards, it's the 1.2 megs on GA talk that's truly redundant. That's the fundamental issue: they are parallel processes and parallel processes drain finite editing time. That's not an insult to you or anyone else. I have no doubt that GA has driven content improvement; it's the diversion of edits into attendant structures—where canonical, equivalent structures could accomodate them—that is unhealthy for Wikipedia. Marskell 18:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't talking about the Wikipedia source code, Lara. I was talking about what an encyclopedia is and how Wikipedians spend their time—the mainspace is the only space that's fundamentally relevant. Unneeded diversions from it are a waste. My post above is (with complete immodesty) a good one. So I'll thank you for forcing me to articulate things so precisely. Marskell 18:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

"...You can't collaborate on the mainspace." Don't know what you mean. You're last is back at ABC generalities when I thought I'd gotten close to a precise XYZ with my second last. I think it best we not discuss directly via user talk, at this point. User talk itself is a non-essential space. I don't doubt in the slightest your good intentions, but it's producing nothing. Marskell 19:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

message from help desk

continued from User talk:LaraLove/Archive 9#message from help desk

Okay. Now I see how you can see my userboxes and I can't (from my computer). Right now, I'm on a borrowed laptop, and I can finally see the userboxes. The whole problem may be because of something with my computer. Just wanted to let you know. MITB LS 01:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

No, that probably won't work. I clear my cookies all the time. MITB LS 02:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Super Mario RPG lists

Currently, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars has two lists pertaining to it (List of characters in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, and List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). User:TTN decided it would be best to merge the lists into the main article and split Smithy Gang into those articles. I recently merged Smithy Gang into the list of chatacters by removing the non-notable characters, and I have asserted that a cameo section in the list of characters is valid, per Wikipedia:Trivia sections and Wikipedia:Handling trivia that uses Alex Trebek#Cameos as a good example. I have suggested that we rename the articles per Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves to something along the lines of Characters of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and World of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars or Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) just like Characters of Final Fantasy VIII and World of Final Fantasy VI or Gaia (Final Fantasy VII). I believe if these articles are to evolve beyond a non-notable list, they should be renamed. For example, List of Final Fantasy VII locations was merged into Gaia (Final Fantasy VII), because a World article is notable, but a simple list of locations is not. That is why there are other secions of the article to make it a World article. It simply has not been renamed yet.

TTN believes the citations in the development and reception sections of the list of locations, books and magazines, are trivial sources. When I added that the 3D perspective of the game is reminicent of Equinox to the main article, TTN removed it since my souce was "the opinions of the Nintendo Power player's guide writers". Although it was actually Nintendo Power magazine, I do believe a magazine is a reliable source, and I gave a page from Next Generation Magazine which also said the same thing. In addition, I was surprized that TTN said that it was from the players guide, since he claims to own the players guide for the game. He has not verified this, since I asked him for citations in May, "Could you look in the back of the Player's Guide and tell me what “types” of … Magic? I forgot what they call it in the game … well, anyways, what types of Special Attack or whatever it is (actually, could you find out what it's called?) there are? I remember some vaguely when I owned the guide like “Fire”, “Jump”, “Electricity?”, etc. Could you provide a citation, like the page number with a quote in context?" TTN replied that he was going to "get to it" (User talk:TTN/Archive 5#List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). TTN claims the player's guide is "at the bottom of a box that's behind at least five others in a cramped space". Seeing that TTN did not recognize that the page was not from the player's guide when I provided a scan of the page in question from Nintendo Power shocked me. However, I have continued to assume good faith by not questioning TTN's honesty.

Per Wikipedia:Consensus#Consensus can change, I have offered five different reasonable, temporary compromises that might integrate my idea with TTN's.

1. Go over the list of characters so we can delete non–notable characters
2. Rename the articles by following the steps at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves.
3. Cut down the geography section list of locations by cutting it into the regional maps the adventures use when traveling from one to another. I can get pictures and write the fair use rationals, and someone can cut down the text that has no citation and does not allude to other media.
4. Write the concept and creation and reception sections for the list of characters
5. Write the concept and creation section for the main article

TTN rejected my compromise because it still keeps the articles. I agreed I would consider a redirect, but Wikipedia:Article size does not allow that, since the list of locations is currently 82 KB long. Instead, I agreed to help cut down the geography section that is the bulk of the article, but TTN rejected that as well because TTN states, "I am not interested in working on the article in regards to improving it." and "get past this "having sources automatically means that this information is good" mentality." TTN states, "I don't think they have or will ever assert notability." I have replied with, "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so if you don't think the articles will ever assert notability, we cannot yet know this, per Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#I don't like it.

Would you please take a look at Talk:Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and give us your thoughts? Taric25 01:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but why have you come to me with this? I don't deal with merges and such. And the article doesn't meat the GA criteria, so I'm actually really surprised you've pointed it out. Why is the development section empty? It's not comprehensive, which is a GA requirement. A list of fictional locations and such do not meet notability guidelines, in my opinion. Merge them into the article then finish it. Writing a development section should be priority 1, otherwise, it's going to get delisted. Lara❤Love 02:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The article is actually already at GA status, but that's not why I came to you. I saw you had responded on video game articles, so I decided to drop a message. I also believe that a list of fictional locations is not notable. The arcticle should be renamed to something like World of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars or Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) just like World of Final Fantasy VI or Gaia (Final Fantasy VII). I believe if these articles are to evolve beyond a non-notable list, they should be renamed. For example, List of Final Fantasy VII locations was merged into Gaia (Final Fantasy VII), because a World article is notable, but a simple list of fictional locations is not. That is why there are other sections of the article to make it a World article. Is that any clearer? Taric25 04:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I realize that it is already listed as a GA, my point is that it doesn't meet the criteria and that needs to be corrected, otherwise it will be delisted. I'll comment on the article talk page regarding the merge if that's what you're needing. Lara❤Love 04:31, 1 October 2007

Please notice the fifth compromise I offered TTN was to write the concept and creation (Development) section for the main article, which TTN rejected because TTN believes that a magazine is a trivial source. Taric25 04:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Adopt Me

Hi- saw your listing on the adopters section, and was wondering if you are accepting any new people. I live in PST and I am available M-F 8-6pm PST. Please let me know if there is potential for a good match. Thank you.Pvara 99 17:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I am will not go off course. Are we on the same time zone? and will those hours work for you? What is the first step?Pvara 99 20:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank your for your response-Just to give you some background, I am very passionate about boomers or being 50+. I have alot of articles on this subject. I starting to submit the articles but I cannot grasp the basic concepts of the guidelines on the submission process. Perhaps that would be a good starting point. Also, what is the best way to be notified that someone posted a note on your userpage? for example is there some type of widget that can send you email that xyz person just posted something or do I just leave a browser window open and refresh every hr? Thanks Pvara 99 18:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Would you?

Like to sign my signature book? Zenlax ^{Talk Contributions Signatures} 20:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

What's the point? Lara❤Love 04:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a new administrator!

Thanks, Archive 10! Thank you for voicing your opinion in my RfA, which passed today with a unanimous 79/0/0 tally. It feels great to be appreciated, and I will try my best to meet everyone's expectations. If you have any advice or tips, feel free to pass them along, as I am sure that I will need them! Cheers, hmwith talk 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Backlog at WP:GAR

Hey Lara... Please excuse the informal nature of the following, but I am sending a form letter to GA contributors to try to clear the backlog at GAR...

good article reassessment is experiencing a considerable backlog problem. There are several articles dating from August that still have not generated enough discussion to close. Could you please take a look at the oldest articles and make some fresh comments on them? Please note that some of these have undergone signigicant changes since they first came to GA/R; please judge the article only on its merits as of its current version. If you reviewed an earlier version of any of these articles, please also consider re-reading them and either revise or endorse any earluer comments you have made. Thanks for your help with this! --Jayron32|talk|contribs 02:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll do it later today. After sleep. Lara❤Love 06:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Apology

I'd just like to apologize for my behaviour for the past few days. Really, I'm not that rude and heartless, and I don't know what came over me. I really hope we can move past this. My edit summary was not meant as a personal attack, but I understand how it could hurt someone. I remember when I brought one of the articles that I spent my life on to FAC, and an Administrator called it "vomit inducing." I was torn up. I don't want to do that to someone else. So again, I was out of line, I hope you accept my sincere apologies, and I commend you for all your hard work. Orane (talk) 03:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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Davidian Revolution

Thanks for the reminder. I should probably go ahead and fail it by default. I was asked for a little extra time, and I asked for a ballpark figure on when it would be done -- and got no response. Some folks have been tweaking it here and there, but not the more large-scale things it needs for GA approval. Is it kosher for me to just flunk it and tell them to renom when it's ready? Thanks again. – Scartol · Talk 16:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Whoops

Sorry about that hold time. I'll fix that up in about 12 hours. So busy with that 'real life' thing in the past week. :/ Pursey ^{Talk | Contribs} 18:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Forget about what now? :) Pursey ^{Talk | Contribs} 20:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Fall out Boy

I've found a few print sources that could help with the article. They're on the talk page. I don't know if you need sources, but if you do, they are there. Sections could be expanded, points sourced... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Journalist (talk • contribs) 20:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Content Review page

Lara, just to let you know I'm interested in setting up a project page along the lines outlined at the Village Pump discussion, but I'm going to spend some time first talking to Marskell and see if there's some way to proceed using the page he's set up. I'll drop you a note if I do create a page, to see if you're interested in participating. Mike Christie (talk) 00:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Help desk

Haha, thanks a bunch. Like I said on Viridae's talk page, that's what I get for subst-ing a template that I'd never used before. :P And you've never made a mistake before, hm? GlassCobra (Review) 05:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Evolutionary history of life

i have addressed most of your comments. any more comments! thanks, Sushant gupta 12:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Wise Old Owl award

Presentation of the Wise Old Owl Award to you for successfully giving a knockout punch (like the Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy) on Biased GA delisting of the Berlin article! OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 20:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

That's one big owl. OR one small goat... The Rambling Man 20:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

^True story.

Well, Ohana, thanks. I'm not sure your comments on the project talk page were really necessary. Seemed kind of harsh. But thanks for the award. Lara❤Love 20:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks like the owl is preparing to mount the goat. Is the goat being the owl's bitch? --Jayron32|talk|contribs 02:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

ROFL! OMG, that's awesome. Even more awesome than your edit summary of the Hispanic Admirals in the United States Navy archival. Comedic gold. Lara❤Love 02:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

A little known fact about goats is that during the peak of sexual intercourse, they will actually bite the head of their mate in order to complete the carnal act. the_undertow ^talk 02:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Upon further inspection, it looks as if the owl is plugging the goat's butt with his talon. Eek.. painful. Lara❤Love 05:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Content review edits

Hi -- just wanted to let you know that after some conversation with Marskell I've made some edits to the content review workshop page, with the hope that his approach and my idea per the village pump discussion can be made to converge. I'd be delighted if you were interested in participating. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 22:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Working Woman's Barnstar
		For your painstaking but wonderful work on I Don't Remember, and you general awesomeness. Good luck in the RfA, and leave the trolls alone ;-) — Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 03:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Nothing is set in stone yet... all depends on that last part. Lara❤Love 03:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

GAC expedited evaluation

I know you have reviewed a few of my WP:GACs. Do you have any advice on my request for an expedited GAC review?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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You might want to take another look at the Service Badge on your userpage... — iridescent (talk to me!) 21:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

What about it? 2,000 edits and 6 months service. The next one is one year. Have to wait until December. Lara❤Love 02:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone just fixed it - it was redirecting to Image:Suspension-bb-lorelei-9016-jonwoods.jpg. Fault was with vandalism to the master template, not to your page. — iridescent (talk to me!) 02:48, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I missed it. Funny. :P I mean, vandalism is bad... but the image is amusing. Lara❤Love 02:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

It gave me a start, I can tell you that... The annoying thing is, I can't see how they did it - there's nothing in the edit history of either the template or the image. — iridescent (talk to me!) 02:52, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

GA review for evolutionary history of life

regarding citation it would be good if you specify the statements which needs to be fixed. it is impossible to cite source for each and every statement. also, the article is written in the summary style. one more thing, i won't be much active uptil 10th october 2007. thaats is why pls. don't fail the article. thanks, �Sushant gupta 09:55, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

You want to help me figure this out?

This is the weirdest thing I have ever seen on Wikipedia. I did not make this edit. I fixed an internal link, but made NONE of the other edits. And what's stranger, is that with all the content that was replaced and removed, it shows that only 1,430 bytes were affected, which would be exactly right for my single edit. What's even 10 times stranger is not only that content was removed, but the article was re-worded. I'm at a loss. the_undertow ^talk 00:18, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

No, it says you dropped the article to 1,430 from 5,159 bytes. You removed almost 4,000 bytes of information (1 character = 1 byte). Well, not to say you did, but somehow it's saying you did. Perhaps there's a glitch and it combined your edit with that of the IP that was editing around the same time as you rather than throw up an edit conflict. It seems the IP has now begun to correct the issue. Lara❤Love 00:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Jayron reverted all of it. Try again, he says. :) Lara❤Love 00:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

That is really scary. I haven't even read the book, so how did any of those edits get made? Here's another thing, even though Jay reverted it, my edit still stands! the_undertow ^talk 01:20, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

PS. I never knew how the byte thing worked until you just told me. the_undertow ^talk 01:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure? Because when I compare what the article looks like now to what it looked like before your edit, it's the same. Lara❤Love 01:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm positive. In fact, the version that I edited did not include any of the information that I supposedly removed. There is no cached version of the page that I actually made the single edit to. the_undertow ^talk 03:10, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't know what to tell ya, buddy. Crazy shit. Get your ass on Yahoo. Lara❤Love 03:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I effing edited a previous version. the_undertow ^talk 03:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Hahahahahahaha! That's gold. Did you not notice that wide red banner at the top? Lara❤Love 03:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

MSN is screwing up...

I was trying to ask you to find a negative review for Young Modern...not that MSN will let me. *slaps* Dihydrogen Monoxide (H₂O) 04:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

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Talk Pages

Man, your talk page is certainly a lot busier than mine! Maybe I'm just not hitting enough vandals, haha. GlassCobra (Review) 14:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think much of my talk page traffic comes from vandal stuff. The easiest way to get a busy talk page is to stick your nose where it's not wanted, lol. It's actually been a slow week, too. :/ Lara❤Love 14:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Well vandals don't typically like people like messing with their business, I've found, haha. In any case, any time you want to brighten up my talk page with a note, you're more than welcome! :) GlassCobra (Review) 21:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Fall Out Boy

The last.fm site appears to me to be a social networking site/discussion forum as well, so would also be excluded (see "links normally to be avoided"). Seems like they're tightening up the external links guidelines. -Jmh123 18:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Roomsmight

I was puzzled by Lar's talk page revert as well, so I dug a little deeper and discovered that Roomsmight is believed to be a sock of a banned user. Lar almost certainly intended to remove all of Roomsmight's edits, but didn't spot the one before SineBot intervened. Anyway, I've fixed this now by reverting back to Homestarmy's last edit. Geometry guy 14:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I figured Lar just misunderstood the edit or something. Thanks for fixing it. :) Lara❤Love 14:37, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Florida Atlantic University

I saw that you did a nice peer review for East Carolina University and was wondering if you would mind taking a look at the above article. It is currently undergoing peer review here. If things turn out well I plan on taking it to WP:FAC next.

Thanks, KnightLago 16:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I did the GA review for that article. I must be thinking of a different article. I'm currently on a break from such things to take time for some tasks I've been wanting to do for some time. In glancing over the article very briefly, I notice you have two fair use images in the infobox. Infoboxes should not contain such images, so I've since been told. Also, one of those images is used in the article as well. No image should be used more than once. Lara❤Love 16:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, well if you change your mind, or get the itch to come back early feel free to help! Thanks, KnightLago 16:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Will do. Lara❤Love 16:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Hogettes

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Hogettes, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 01:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. Improving the article was the idea. It had only been created for a matter of minutes. Didn't leave much time for improvement. ;) Lara❤Love 04:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Any further comments...

Would you like make any further comment on Evolutionary history of life. hope so now the article looks a bit fine. thanks for making the required changes in the article too. i highly appreciate your efforts. Sushant gupta 14:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

i have addressed each and every thing you specified. regarding 404 error, its your PC's fault. i am easily able to access the page. also the section of which this ref is a part of is from the recently featured article evolution. thanks a lot for sharing your precious time. it was nice working with you. Sushant gupta 14:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Sushant gupta has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
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Thanks. Lara❤Love 14:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

CAN YOU PLEASE EITHER PASS OR FAIL THE ARTICLE SO THAT AT LEAST I CAN START UP WITH OTHER WIKIPROJECTS. THANKS, Sushant gupta 13:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Evolutionary history of life

thanks a lot for reviewing the article. i highly appreciate your efforts for reviewing this article. may your smile shine on! thanks, Sushant gupta 12:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

		With thanks!
		Thanks for participating in my RfA, which closed successfuly. I leave you with a picture of the real Blood Red Sandman! Note his 'mop' is slightly deadlier than mine! - - Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:52, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Haystacks (Monet) - GA finally

Thanks for your editorial contributions and review oversight. You may want to display this somewhere.

This user helped promote Haystacks (Monet) to good article status.

--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 14:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

FOB Discography

Heh, thanks. Also, I changed my oppose to a support, now that the conditions are fixed. Good luck! Xihix 03:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hogettes

On 15 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hogettes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 12:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)