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Thanks! I forgot to add those other flags there. Good job! Alacrity25 (talk) 20:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

No problem! --JECE (talk) 20:53, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks! Is this a part of Meta:Research:WikiProject Recommendation? JECE (talk) 16:44, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

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SEIU Local 615

Hi - you’ve reverted my redirect for this article even though all relevant information about this is already in the destination article. Would you rather I took it to AfD instead or go ahead as per WP:BOLD? Cardiffbear88 (talk) 16:45, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

I count at least four facts that are not in the destination article. If we really want to be bold, I think that readers would be better served by fixing the current article to represent both "New England 615", as it is currently known, and the historical Local 615. A good model is the article on the International Brotherhood of Stationary Firemen, which is today also subsumed into 32BJ and known as the National Conference of Firemen and Oilers. Since SEIU Local 615 is a stub, though, maybe we should move the article to New England 615 and go from there. What do you think? --JECE (talk) 17:01, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi @JECE - I’m not sure I can find any notable coverage of either SEIU Local 615, or New England 615, that couldn’t be included under the merged unions section of 32BJ - but I’m not US-based which automatically excludes me from certain sources. My preference would still be to merge into 32BJ and redirect, but if you find any notable coverage let me know :) Cardiffbear88 (talk) 17:13, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

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Airspace

Hi. Since you are interested in what's happening in Western Sahara, I was wondering whether you have access to more information about Spain's advice not to fly over Western Sahara's airspace (given the ongoing war)? This is what I found so far.[1][2][3][4] Regards. M.Bitton (talk) 21:37, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi! I remember reading about this at the time, but I think that you have already found better sources than those that I had come across. I don't think that it's just 'Spain' that issued the recommendation, though. Were you looking for anything in particular? --JECE (talk) 21:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Nothing in particular, just more info if possible before adding it to the article. I thought it was just Spain since it's the country that is responsible for WS's airspace, or am I mistaken? M.Bitton (talk) 22:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure how it works, but I assumed that the Canary Islands FIR's authority stems from the ICAO. In any case, your last source also mentions an FAA warning, so it's not just a Spanish warning. Part of the Western Sahara is also covered by the Dakar FIR, by the way, as mentioned in your last source and illustrated on these two maps: [5] [6]. --JECE (talk) 22:23, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

You're right, the FAA also issued an earlier warning. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 22:29, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

The latest incident

The incident is covered here. Obviously, it has nothing to do with the clashes. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 20:59, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

M.Bitton, I still don't understand your point of view. The incident clearly has a place in the other article, but I think that it obviously also has a place in 2020–2021 Western Saharan clashes. Two of the three sources that we have discussed make the same connection: the Al Jazeera English source [7] and the RTVE source [8]. --JECE (talk) 21:11, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

None of the sources link the Guerguerat clashes with the latest incident about the 3 truck drivers. Besides, it took place in another location. M.Bitton (talk) 21:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

M.Bitton, what are you talking about? "The Algerian statement did not specify the exact location where the bombardment took place. But Akram Kharief, editor of Algerian website Mena Defense, said that 'the Algerian truckers were killed in Bir Lahlou', on a highway through the part of Western Sahara controlled by the Polisario Front. The Polisario in November declared a three-decade ceasefire 'null and void' after Moroccan forces broke up a blockade of a highway into Mauritania, which the independence movement said was built in violation of a 1991 truce." [9] More than a third of the RTVE article about this incident is dedicated to the war and also places the bombardment in Western Sahara. [10] --JECE (talk) 21:24, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

I am familiar with what happened, but like I said, none of the sources link it with the Guerguerat clashes (the two are unrelated). M.Bitton (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Again, I'm not sure what the disconnect is. The clashes have always been along the full length of the berm. They are not limited to the Guerguerat area. The Al Jazeera article mentions that the bombardment happened in Bir Lahlou of the Liberated Territories, and then immediately follows that up in the next sentence by clarifying that the area is now a warzone because of the Guerguerat highway incident. How is that not a link between the bombardment and the clashes? And the RTVE article, titled "Algeria condemns the death of three civilians in an Moroccan bombardment in Western Sahara and promises revenge", dedicates 40% of the paragraphs to the ongoing clashes. Again, that is a clear attempt to say that the two are related. --JECE (talk) 21:43, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Bir Lahlou is far away from Guergurat and that's exactly what makes the bombardment of civilians all the more serious. I intend to update the Algeria-Morocco relations article later; hopefully, it will make it clearer. M.Bitton (talk) 21:52, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

M.Bitton, I don't think that you have been following the war very closely. The majority of the fighting has taken place nowhere near Guerguerat. This makes perfect sense, since SPLA military power would only get weaker the further away you get from the refugee camps in Tindouf, and Guerguerat is literally as far from Tindouf as you can get, unless you count La Güera. --JECE (talk) 22:02, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

I have been following the war, but until proven otherwise, this incident has nothing to do with it. For all we know, they could have been targeted because of the latest developments between Algeria and Morocco (which would make more sense). M.Bitton (talk) 22:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

M.Bitton, again, what on earth are you talking about?

1. The only way we are going to prove what happened is if Morocco admits to killing the civilians, but they won't even admit that there is an ongoing war. How are they going to admit to collateral damage? We don't require that level of proof for incidents in Syria, for example. It's obvious to editors that such incidents are related to the Syrian War.

2. I pointed to two news sources that make the connection between these killings and the war. The Saharawi Republic also draws a connection between the incident and the war, by the way: [11]. You have provided no evidence to back your theory, which you say makes sense, but makes no sense at all to me.

3. Do you understand that the war is being waged in the vicinity of cities like Bir Lahlou, Al Mahbes and all along the berm? Look up yourself where the fighting has been taking place over the last three days: [12], [13], [14].

--JECE (talk) 22:45, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

The sources don't connect the two. All the SADR source that you mentioned above says is: {tq|this assassination "proves the malice of the Moroccan regime and the extent of its hostility and its allies not only towards the Saharawi people but also against the peoples of the region"|q=yes}}. It's early day, there is no rush, if they do at some point in future, then we'll know about it. M.Bitton (talk) 22:50, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

That is true, but the Al Jazeera English quote does connect the two, as I explained above. It makes the connection that the bombing took place in the warzone. --JECE (talk) 23:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Are you referring to this source (which was published right after the incident, when we didn't know much about it)? Where does it connect the two? M.Bitton (talk) 23:15, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

This is getting to be very circular, M.Bitton. As I said above, "The Al Jazeera article mentions that the bombardment happened in Bir Lahlou of the Liberated Territories, and then immediately follows that up in the next sentence by clarifying that the area is now a warzone because of the Guerguerat highway incident." --JECE (talk) 23:28, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

You're right about one thing: this is getting to be very circular. Let's try a new method: since Algeria has complained officially to the U.N., why don't we wait until the investigation is over and see what they say? M.Bitton (talk) 23:32, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

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