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Hurdiidae

Hello Jeda045, you created the article Hurdiidae. I ordered to the transfer it to the German WP and translated it. Now it is listed as an article with issues. Do you have more infomation and sources to improofe it? --Hans Haase (有问题吗) 21:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

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Former Argyrosauridae member placement

Since Argyrosauridae doesn't really exist anymore, the former members Argyrosaurus and Paralititan are sort of just floating about in the abyss, as they haven't been placed in the family pages. Think your up to the challenge of placing them according to the newest phylogeny study(the one with Mnyamawamtuka)? OviraptorFan (talk) 02:44, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

The Mnyamawamtuka study is enough to show that Argyrosauridae is poorly-supported, but the analyses do not provide strong support for any particular phylogenetic position for either taxon. They shouldn't really be placed in any particular family right now. Floating in the abyss is about as accurate as we can get right now. Ornithopsis (talk) 04:28, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Mansa Musa

Hi, thanks for adding the info about Abu Bakr II not being the predecessor of Mansa Musa to List of common misconceptions. I have removed that because you have given no evidence that this is a common misconception. (Criterion 2: The item is reliably sourced, both with respect to the factual contents of the item and the fact that it is a common misconception.) --Macrakis (talk) 18:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Macrakis, to quote the source I cited: "We often read that Musa's unfortunate predecessor was called Abu Bakr or Abu-Bakari. This was absolutely false, even though author after author diligently repeated it." If you google "Abubakari II" or "Abu Bakr II" you'll find thousands of results mentioning the alleged mansa, and you'll find far fewer results for Mansa Muhammad. Certainly sounds like a common enough misconception to me. I figured I didn't need to explicitly say "this is considered a common misconception"; including it in the article and citing a source that more or less calls it a common misconception seemed adequate to me, since it seems that's what every other entry on the list has done. Ornithopsis (talk) 18:50, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Also, regarding the matter of whether this is a trivial topic or not, this voyage is often the subject of pseudohistorical claims that "Abu Bakr II" discovered America—and the pseudohistorical sources almost invariably call him by the incorrect name of Abu Bakr II. So this is bigger than mere uncertainty of the correct naming of an obscure monarch. Ornithopsis (talk) 19:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

The big error (or misconception) -- as documented in your source -- is the pseudohistorical claim that any African traveled to the Americas and founded the New World civilizations. The name of the supposed leader of the fleet is a minuscule detail. It may be a "common misconception" among pseudo-historians, but that is already a fringe group. --Macrakis (talk) 22:53, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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Re:Theriodonta

If Theriodonta is contested, then we should just merge it into Neotherapsida. Currently, most of Wikipedia just repeats the Theriodonta proposal as if it is uncontested, should this be changed? Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

We should probably merge both Neotherapsida and Theriodontia into Therapsida, or at least retool the pages to be like "Theriodontia is a controversial proposed clade of therapsids..." etc. Angielczyk and Kammerer (2018) state that the monophyly of Eutheriodontia "is the only uncontroversial aspect of higher therapsid phylogeny". Fraser-King et al. (2019) found dinocephalians to be the basalmost major therapsid clade, whereas Cisneros et al. (2015) and several dicynodont phylogenies (e.g. Kammerer et al. (2017)) find a dicynodont-dinocephalian clade, which is sister to Eutheriodontia in the latter. Cisneros et al. (2015) also find gorgonopsians to be nested within biarmosuchians, and find eutheriodonts to be the sister taxon of other therapsids. An unpublished study presented at SVP a while back found biarmosuchians to be a paraphyletic grade of basal theriodonts, with an anomodont-dinocephalian clade as the sister taxon of that clade. To sum up, any possible arrangement of Biarmosuchia, Dinocephalia, Anomodontia, Gorgonopsia, and Eutheriodontia into higher clades is poorly-supported at the moment. In fact, I'm having a hard time thinking of any phylogenetic analyses in the last decade or so that support the conventional Hopson-Barghausen paradigm of therapsid relationships. The therapsid infobox needs major revisions as well, both so that it no longer presents the poorly-supported Eutherapsida, Neotherapsida, and Theriodonta as fact, and because there are numerous genera that are arguably misplaced. I've been meaning to do some of this cleanup for a while, but haven't gotten around to it because it would be such a big task. Ornithopsis (talk) 23:19, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and made the changes to the Therapsid infobox, it's a small step, but it's a start. Do you think the next proper step is to start merge requests for Neotherapsida, Theriodonta and Eutherapsida? Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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Mohammed ibn Gao

You are right about the info box but not about the change of content, Fixing it on an iPad while I’m in hospital is beyond me so I reverted. The fact that his name in his article doesn’t match the title of the article nor of Gao (mansa) is a major problem and a move will require a move request showing the spelling most used in English reliable sources? Doug Weller talk 19:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Alright, I've put up move requests on Gao (mansa) and Mohammed ibn Gao; the spelling Qu is definitely more common in reliable sources. In general the transliterations used for Mali-related topics are a mess; for a while there were two separate pages for Abu Ishaq al-Sahili based on different transliterations. Incidentally, it seems to be more common to refer to rulers of Mali as "Mansa (name)" than is the case for many other royals, so I'm unsure whether the titles of pages on mansas should be standardized to "(name) of Mali", as per WP:NCROY, or "Mansa (name)". Mansa Musa, obviously, should stay at that title in either case as per WP:COMMONNAME. Ornithopsis (talk) 20:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I’ve noticed the problem of titles of Mali rulers, I’ve got no idea what would be best. And it’s not just Malis where I’ve seen big transliteration problems, but I try to avoid them as I’ve got no expertise. And some editors get very entrenched about being right because they know they are right. Going home from hospital today after bowel cancer surgery and can use my PC again to edit! Doug Weller talk 12:58, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Great to find someone with expertise on sources! I just looked at your move posts and subscribed to them, although I may not feel able to comment. Doug Weller talk 13:01, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

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Hey, I saw the edit you made on the Florida Horse Conch page, the one where you added a link to a sentence I wrote (On average, it weighs over 11 pounds). It made my day, seeing the link to the Nat geo wild mini documentary. EVANPUPPYDOG (talk) 09:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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