Meyerjp3

December 2020

Hello, I'm Donner60. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Delta Air Lines Flight 841, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 02:01, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I have just come back online after more than a week off. I have noted your messages on my talk page and since some technical issues concerning copyright are noted, I will reply after taking a little time to review the guidelines rather than answer off the top of my head. Sorry for the delay. Donner60 (talk) 01:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I am striking the above original message because your message shows you were in good faith in making the change. A citation should still be given, but as I just noted, I will need to consider the technical question you raised before trying to give a complete answer. Donner60 (talk) 01:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

The citations, or in effect the references or proof, supporting your changes appear valid but are in unusual form. I suggest that you make the changes and put in the edit summary that the references are provided as photos on the talk page. I would also add a footnote to the article stating that references for this information is from Delta official documents and awards which are shown on the talk page. Then put an item on the talk page where you give the explanation and add the photos as proof. It would be good to find a citation, such as a newspaper article that can be found online, although perhaps the age of the incident would make that more difficult. I cannot guarantee that someone else might come along and ask for a more traditional citation but I think you will avoid further issues by adding the notes that I suggest.

As for the copyright of the picture, I think you will need to get the AP to release the copyright if they in fact have it copyrighted. See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. The following is from page 3 of https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf, a government circular on the duration of copyrights. The photo, if copyrighted, would have been created during the period that is the subject of the following paragraph, making the total copyright period 95 years.

"Works originally copyrighted between January 1, 1964, and December 31, 1977. Congress amended the copyright law on June 26, 1992, to automatically renew the copyright in these works and to make renewal registration for them optional. Their copyright term is still divided between a 28-year origi-nal term and a 67-year renewal term, but a renewal registra-tion is not required to secure the renewal copyright. The renewal vests on behalf of the appropriate renewal claimant upon renewal registration or, if there is no renewal registra-tion, on December 31 of the 28th year. For details about the benefits of making a renewal registration, see Circular 15, Renewal of Copyright."

I hope this helps and will allow you to make the changes without issues. Donner60 (talk) 07:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)