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The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion

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Move Page

Can you please move Lil Chuckee (musician) to Lil Chuckee. Since there's no other Lil Chuckee. The subject now is notable, that meets MUSICBIO. — Karlhard (talk) 00:35, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• Done. You cannot be serious. Where is the evidence that he now meets MUSICBIO? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I am just trying to help. Karlhard (talk) 18:31, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I did see the article before it was deleted. I think Karlhard is being broad with the terms "hit" and "national chart"; WP:MUSICBIO#C2 states that an artist is notable if it has had a hit on a national chart. I doubt he'll have another hit again as he has left Young Money Entertainment, therefore I recommend restoring and sending back to AfD per WP:Using deletion as cleanup.--Launchballer 15:48, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry if I may be wrong, but it does meet notability. You can't say that he won't get another hit because Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. By now, the subject meets WP:MUSICBIO. Karlhard (talk) 18:31, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• Clearly Inter (talk · contribs) was not impressed by the evidence of notability that you offered. Try asking Inter to restore it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:06, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

quotation

I made a approx. anon. quotation to one of your advice lines at on my talk page here. I'll add attribution if you like --I wan';t sure you'd want me to. DGG ( talk ) 19:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

• I was going to reply on your talk page until I saw the ridiculous size of it. It is nearly six times bigger than my maximum size for this page. You have archive links at the top which suggest monthly archiving, so why have you got stuff dating back to 2011? I recommend an archive search box as at the top of this page. OK, disk space seems to be cheap and infinitely expandable but spare a thought for people with portable devices. You were asked: "it's very hard work reading it on a small screen. (Have you tried?)". PamD and I are still waiting for your reply. I tried doing an whole page edit of it on my Android tablet and it crashed the browser. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:15, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Make that three of us. I also commented on his talk page length on my talk page underneath a comment of his! Read this - it is linked to from RHaworth's user page.--Launchballer 16:04, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

• And when I left my message on Mugginsx's talk page it was a fraction of the size of what DGG's is currently. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:12, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

I wanna know which items should be posted

Hi, My wiki page was deleted for maintains as it for my personal use.I wanna know what type of post can we do on wiki and what are not. I am eager to know who can delete my wiki without my permissions and who can not. Can i retrieve my data back that was deleted by third party like you and others.The data that was in wiki is important to me i wanna it back.Can you please help in clarifying the above quires — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noorulla123 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

• "Maintains as it for my personal use" is a classic reason for deletion of user pages. Any Wikipedia janitor can and will delete such stuff. Wikipedia is not a free host. Everything done on Wikipedia must be directed towards building this encyclopedia. You may certainly have your text back for use elsewhere - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:38, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

WhatsApp

Check out this article, there is some expression error in it. I am unable to fix it. Owais khursheed (talk) 11:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

• Fixed - the problem was not what to do but where to do it! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:12, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Emirates Kart Zone

Hi! Please let me work more in my article Emirates Kart Zone. It was not finished yet actually but the thing is i posted it already and was been deleted just by now. I will provide more information and this time i'll make sure that all the content word are from myself only. thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daojaypee (talk • contribs) 14:35, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

• Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your zone is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:12, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, Thank you so much sir for replying on my previous message, could you create a little article about Emirates Kart Zone if you don't mind? I really appreciate your help sir. please check our website page for more reference emirates kart zone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daojaypee (talk • contribs) 13:02, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

• You cannot be serious. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

straightline.in

Dear RHaworth, I uploaded an article on straightline.in on Wikipedia a few days back. Being a happy customer of the website, I thought I should write on it (as there were no pages on the same). I do not have any connection with their website whatsoever and was taken aback when my article was labelled as promotional. Would you be kind enough to help me understand, what seemed promotional so that I can rectify it and get the page uploaded. ​ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Souvikchelsea1 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

• Unlike Daojaypee above, you have the sense to claim no COI. But your contributions history makes me somewhat sceptical about your claim. But we are told to assume good faith so I will point you to this suggestion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:12, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Synoeca septentrionalis

Hi, I am working on a class project in behavioral ecology on wasp species at Washington University in St. Louis. I am considering working on a page for synoeca septentrionalis for the project. Would it be possible for me to have access to the recently deleted page please? Thank you. Alison Gozlan (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Could you please preview your edits before you save them? Many of us view diffs one at a time. You can do that by clicking "Show preview" (next to "Save page") or by pressing shift+p (if using Chrome, alt+shift+p).--Launchballer 09:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

• Launchballer, waspish comments like that are unwanted - you are nit picking and newbie biting. Unlike a lot of the messages that get posted here, Alison's was completely satisfactory. It simply does not matter that it took four edits to get there. Learn to use diff reports properly.

Alison, I find it amusing that you contact me when you could probably be talking face-to-face with the author. The entire content of the deleted page is incorporated in User:RJPet/sandbox. Fight it out between you as to who is going to create the article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

File:Cantwell.jpg

Dear RHaworth, You recently deleted a file that I uploaded (File:Cantwell.jpg). I have the photo from Facebook and I have the permission both from the guy depicted as well as from the guy who took the photo. What can I do? Greetings, ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 17:51, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

As a user of Facebook, I'm pretty sure it is a term and/or condition (I don't know the difference) of Facebook that any photo uploaded to there becomes their property. -- Launchballer 19:31, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

That's highly unlikely. Evidence please? -- Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:40, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

• Launchballer, like Demiurge, I am very sceptical of your claim. The problem with Facebook is that there is no provision for put licence details on photos there so we are forced to assume that all images are "© all rights reserved" but that is © the photographer, not Facebook.

Einstein 2, please read this. Make sure that the photographer is willing to release the photograph under {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} then upload the image to the Commons and provide evidence of permission as explained here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:28, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Is this article to be allowed to live?

I have accidentally marked this page To Live (2010 film) as patrolled while tagging it as unsourced by using Twinkle. Can you check it whether it is suitable to be included in Wikipedia. Thanks, Owais khursheed (talk) 01:35, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

• Oh what a terrible sin - spuriously marking a page as patrolled! I'm joking - it is no sin at all. In any case tagging it as unsourced could be considered sufficient by way of patrolling - you have looked and assessed that at least it is not vandalism. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:39, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Quantum Technology Sciences Inc.

Hello, I am asking for the page draft:Quantum Technology Sciences Inc. to be re-published so that I can edit out the material that caused the copy infringement deletion. I have an ample amount of content to replace the content in violation. Thank you so much for your consideration in the re-creation of this page. — Sarah 3825 (talk) 15:16, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

• Before you do anything else here, learn the basics of wiki markup like wikilinks and section headers. Also take to heart Launchballer's advice above - did it really need 79 edits to create a 6kbyte article. The article fell outside Wikipedia's acceptance perimeter. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:39, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Please help delete duplicated articles

Dear RHaworth. I need your help to delete these 2 articles: Duplicate and wrong article name (please delete for me): Bangkok International Preparatory and Secondary School. Wrong article name and article (please delete for me): Bangkok Preparatory International School. This is the correct article for the school: Bangkok International Preparatory and Secondary School (Bangkok Prep). I really appreciate your help. Thank you. Supriyasrikuruwal (talk) 01:53, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

• Please learn wikilinks. Bangkok International Preparatory and Secondary School (Bangkok Prep) is a completely non-standard title - if a subject has alternative names, we do not put them both in one title. The school's website suggests that they prefer a simple title of Bangkok Prep so I have moved the article there. Also, they use an ampersand on their website so you might consider creating a redirect at Bangkok International Preparatory & Secondary School. The title Bangkok Preparatory International School seems harmless but if it offends thee, feel free to put a deletion tag on it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, thank you for explaining. Can you please delete Bangkok International Preparatory and Secondary School (Bangkok Prep) - it looks really bad when anyone searches on google and it says "this article is going through speedy deletion." And can you change title of the Bangkok Prep article to be the full name of the school "Bangkok International Preparatory and Secondary School" Thank you once again. Supriyasrikuruwal (talk) 14:44, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

• Can't you see that Bangkok International Preparatory and Secondary School (Bangkok Prep) is a red link? It is already deleted - I cannot make it more deleted. Google is very quick to learn new Wikipedia pages but very much slower to forget deleted ones. The red link returns an unambiguous HTTP status of "404 Not Found" so Google will forget about it eventually. If you want it forgotten sooner, ask Google!

I think Bangkok Prep is a good title but if you prefer the longer title, move the article yourself. Make sure you move it - do not copy&paste. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:08, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Learning to edit Wiki w/ Images

Hello RHaworth,

I am very new to editing wiki and you look like you have a lot of experience. Yesterday was the first time I had every tried to upload any images to Wikipedia and I went through the process of trying to learn how to get an image that is fair use. I added a picture of the Libertarian candidate to the Florida gubernatorial_election,_2014 race page and I saw you removed the file because it violated the fair use policy. I was hoping you could help me understand what kind of a violation this is and what kind of picture would qualify in an instance like this. I got the picture from the media page of the campaign website for Adian Wyllie ( http://wyllieforgovernor.com/contact-us/media-inquiries/) which seemed to me like it was purposed for distribution similar to use in a wiki article. But perhaps I'm mistaken and would love some guidance. I emailed the web designer to ask if this picture was allowed to be used for this article as "fair use" and am waiting to hear back. Thanks, Mfermier — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfermier (talk • contribs) 14:36, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

I am not RHaworth, but on Thursdays I am here feeding his pet polar bears. I think you should try emailing the webmaster with some of the details from Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries instead. The webmaster (or any other copyright owner) are, by definition, not able to grant permission for "fair use".

If you do wish to use an image of Wyllie under "fair use", you would have to wait for them to die first, and also ensure that no properly free images of them were produced in the meantime. I presume you do not wish to wait that long. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:23, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

• Fair use images are not allowed for living people. Find images licenced under {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} and upload them to the Commons. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:08, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Not-RHaworth-the-Polar-Bear-Feeder: Thanks for the enlightening info. That makes more sense. I emailed the copyright holder and got emailed permission to upload the file to Wikipedia and I forwarded this corrispondance to permissions-enwikimedia.org and am awaiting response. I'm hoping this is the proper method then to upload a photo. Although I could again me mistaken, but I'm trying to learn how to do this right. Thanks again for helping me learn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfermier (talk • contribs) 14:47, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

• No! Did you actually read my message? If the copyright holder releases the image under a Creative Commons licence, then you should be uploading to the Commons. The whole point of fair use is that you do not need permission. But fair use is not allowed for living people. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:44, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

R.azz.miligi

Hi RHaworth — R.azz.miligi (talk) 11:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

• No section heading, wrong type of link, shouting - I do not need to reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:34, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Article concerning 3.2.1

http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/3.2.1 Makes no sense for 3.2.1 to be deleted, they are the first Thai group to reach 100,000,000 views on Youtube, so they are definitely relevant, they are on a good amount of news articles that outline their success and has all of their trivia, so their information can be properly sourced and sited (matter of fact, they have wikis in other languages). If Berryz Koubou and Da Mouth can have a Wikipedia page, 3.2.1 definitely deserves a Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gale-ic (talk • contribs) 12:20, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

• That is the first time I have been give a link to Wikia rather than Wikipedia. If you write an article about them with evidence properly cited, it may well stick. I can let you have the text - read this. You may also like to contact Kmwolm (talk · contribs) who created the article. The only article I find in other wikis is, unsurprisingly, th:ทรี.ทู.วัน and it seems pretty thin on evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Our guest

Known this as vandalism, he is involved "pretending". Any solution?Justice007 (talk) 15:04, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

• Please learn wikilinks and try again with your message. There is nothing wrong with the guy's user page so about what are you complaining? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:44, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

• They may or may not have been complaining about the transclusion of Mike V's userboxes, which incorrectly labelled Mujeeb as both an administrator and an OTRS volunteer. I've removed this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:13, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't know about Justice007, but I'm moaning about Chandio's use of personally identifiable information. Could you revdel the offending edits?--Launchballer 17:29, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Ok, RHaworth, I try to learn again, actually I was in a hurry, couldn't properly explain the matter but thanks to Demiurge1000, he got the point. I hope the same user will not come again with another name. Cheers. .Justice007 (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

From Da Darkness Of Da Kut (as Lil Fly)

Hello, I recently noticed the article From Da Darkness Of Da Kut was deleted. Lil Fly indeed is Playa Fly hence why it was link to Playa Fly. As an avid Memphis rap fan, I attest that this page was 100% credible. Although there is not much information regarding the album, it was released in the early nineties via DJ Paul KOM (of Three 6 Mafia). I recreated this page to keep underground music alive, so everyone who is a Memphis rap fan, and Three 6 Mafia. I hope you will understand and allow this page to stay if it is recreated. Thank you very much and have a great day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SSF156 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

User:SSF156, I recommend you read WP:NMUSIC carefully. If whatever subject you are talking about meets the criteria there, try writing an article at WP:AFC. WP:42 might help. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:39, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

• But it was not "link to Playa Fly". Hints: title should be From Da Darkness Of Da Kut; it will need to link to the article about the artiste and evidence of notability must be provided. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:15, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

User:Demiurge1000 So if I would like to keep the page I should re title it as: "From Da Darkness of Da Kut" for starters? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SSF156 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Excuse me sire ... saidu medical college and saidu teaching hospital ... 2 different things Saadkhan12345 (talk) 20:36, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Atomic hydrogen power

My article on atomic hydrogen power was deleted and I would like it put back up on Wikipedia. It was accurate, and not a duplication of the atomic hydrogen welder, as my article went into detail on how the atomic hydrogen welder was developed, along with atomic hydrogen power and the scientists involved. USA Nobel Prize winner Dr. Langmuir is known to have broken the hydrogen atom in 1911 that helped General Electric in the USA create the atomic hydrogen welders in the 1920's. I used great sources from science articles and trade magazines for my eight plus page article. Where is it? I had looked forward to having my article on the early start of clean energy technology on Wikipedia. Where is my Atomic Hydrogen Power article? HACNY (talk) 20:23, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

• It was a blatant fork and too much an essay rather than an article. Try improving the atomic hydrogen welding article and if you really think there is justification for a separate article, raise the matter at talk:atomic hydrogen welding. Other parts of the article can be added to Irving Langmuir. But before you do that I suggest you actually learn a bit of science - "broke the hydrogen atom" - do you actually know the difference between an atom and a molecule? Similarly "half-life of 2.3 x 108 seconds" - do you mean 248.4 seconds? Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Elsinore High School

First, thanks for handling a few of the {{db-g6}}s I just left around Wikipedia:Elsinore High School. The page was created originally in User:Jaitlin206/sandbox and was accidentally moved to the Wikipedia namespace. I further screwed things up by mixing up the next move. Thanks for fixing that.

Second, you deleted the page that was at Wikipedia:Elsinore High School as a WP:CSD#G11 but this is untrue. The page was by a new user and (although it's deleted) I'm pretty sure the page was marked as a class project for Education Program:University of Washington/Interpersonal Media (Fall 2014). It is a good faith attempt at an encyclopedic contribution. I know because I am the instructor. The move separated the talkpage The article might not be ready but it is not unambiguous advertising material. Could you please restore the article and leave constructive feedback on the talk page before summarily deleting it? I had already pointed out the need for reliable sources to establish notability the author/student. If you are completely uncomfortable with having it in the article namespace, you can put it back in User:Jaitlin206/sandbox where the creator can work it more. —mako๛ 22:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Although I think it should be clear, the article should (and will eventually) be at Elsinore High School not in WP:NS4 where it was only moved accidentally by a newbie still trying to figure this place out. —mako๛ 22:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

• No need for an essay. Dreadful newbie biting. Restored to User:Jaitlin206/sandbox. Talk page found and restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:44, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

pls help me

m new in this wiki editing and i wrote a article named kushal thakkar pls help me i want to make correction and pls undelete it Kushal7t (talk) 14:58, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

• You shot yourself in three of your feet by creating your bio page three times with a speedy deletion tag already in place. But that merely saved someone else the trouble of tagging it. Wikipedia is not a social networking site. Please write about yourslf on facebook or your own website. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:50, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

But what can i do and bdw its not about me !! m his friend ! i got that i have to change few content thing but can u pls undelete it so i can edit it pls? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kushal7t (talk • contribs) 17:14, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

• I have emailed you the text so that you can edit it but will you please get it into your head: we do not want it on Wikipedia. Publish elsewhere - do you understand? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:24, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Warn/Block user

BeUtkarsh continues to treat Wikipedia like his own website, in spite of multiple warnings. Please consider a stern warning or blocking user. — Coderzombie (talk) 15:51, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Check

This guy User:Starspangledsystems is making stub articles in large no.s which end in one or two lines. What to do with him. Should I warn him or his actions are OK. Night Fury (talk) 04:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

• Don't ask me - just go ahead and warn them - given the subjects, may well be a woman author. Also tag some or all of their stubs for deletion. Sadly, if these women are professional players, at the end of the day the articles may get kept. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:37, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

The Grass Foundation

Hi RHaworth, you deleted my recent entry for the Grass Foundation, a non-profit foundation in the US that has been supporting research and education since 1955. I understand that it was deemed a copyright infringement and thus - without email to me - was speed-deleted. I am the author of the website and current president of the foundation. The site was clearly linked and I now added a release of the copyright on the linked site itself to make the copyright hopefully a non-issue. This having been my first wiki page, it took a while to get the formatting right and I thus would very much appreciate if you could restore the site back into my sandbox, so that I can make all the necessary changes to the text. Felix — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felixschweizer (talk • contribs) 17:36, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

• Please read this and then kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your foundation is notable and writes about it here. If you really insist, you could try and find a "sponsor". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:40, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth, I appreciate that you feel a gatekeeper for wikipedia. I appreciate the work you are doing, but I do not appreciate your condescending tone that you show towards me or towards many of the others that have suffered under your delete button. It is very easy to ridicule others when you are in a position of power. It is much harder to give positive feedback even if it is critical. If you feel like your inbox is getting too full, maybe you want to leave some deleting to others. So next time, to use your own words, kindly have the decency to wait until you unnecessarily insult somebody else! Respectfully, Felix Felixschweizer (talk) 02:15, 21 October 2014 (UTC)]

• I will admit to the condescending tone and I do try to restrain it. However, in your case, my tone was exactly what I meant it to be. Please suggest a form of words that is acceptable to you which tells a person that "writing on Wikipedia about yourself, your product or your organisation is strongly deprecated". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:21, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

International Institute for Nanotechnology

I'd like to understand your nomination of my article International institute for nanotechnolgy for speedy deletion.

Extended content

I wrote the article because I was researching the foundation as a potential source of funds, and couldn't find the information on Wikipedia, although there were many other articles that mentioned it. It seems to me to clearly qualify in importance based on news stories, faculty, number of partners and number of start-ups incubated there. Much smaller, younger and more obscure foundations are listed; and ones with fewer links from other articles. I'm aware that being more important than the least important comparable institution on Wikipedia is not a good argument for inclusion, otherwise inclusion criteria would creep down to zero. But of 126 organizations listed in the List of nanotechnology organizations page, it is the third-oldest and fourth largest by budget (I can't get budget figures for a lot of these, but they're clearly the small ones, and IIN probably ranks about equally high by number of faculty, prominence of faculty and total production); and it is the oldest and biggest one that is not a government organization. 51 of these organizations have Wikipedia pages, the IIN is by far the biggest one without a page. I did mention at the top of the article that it is the oldest nanotechnology organization in the US, spends $600 million per year in research; and that its incubated companies have raised $700 million in venture capital. I also pointed out that its faculty includes 44 members of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine. I guess I thought these attributes clearly merited inclusion, and I didn't want to write a puff piece, just the facts. Is there a specific area in which you think its credentials need burnishing? Size, prominence in the news, age, importance of people associated with it, importance of institutions associated with it, effect on innovation, interest to researchers and entrepreneurs in nanotechnology? Or just generally more cheerleading? — AaCBrown (talk) 21:33, 19 October 2014 (UTC) Well at least you tried to provide a link to the article. You have been contributing here for six years but in all that time you have apparently never noticed that titles use proper capitalisation thus: International Institute for Nanotechnology and that articles require links to significant coverage in multiple, reliable, independent secondary sources. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:21, 19 October 2014 (UTC) That's simple enough. You want me to correct the capitalization and add more diverse and better sources. I can do that. Do you mind if I ask why you didn't say that when you marked it for deletion? I've had criticisms before, but they were always warnings, specific enough to be helpful, and gave me time to correct things before the article was deleted. One problem with deletion is it breaks all the links I inserted into other articles that mentioned the IIN. Isn't it better to give the author time to fix a non-self-interested article about an institution that may be a close call in importance but isn't trivial or fictitious? Now I feel obliged to go back and take out all the links until the article is fixed, and then I'll have to put them back again (assuming it is accepted upon resubmission). I could be misreading your tone, but you seem to be annoyed rather than helpful. I ask only because I don't want to keep working on this if you're dead set against it. I appreciate all the work you do to keep the Wikipedia quality up. I realize sporadic contributors like me are trouble, because we don't create often enough to be really familiar with things. In my opinion I make up for that by having a lot of domain knowledge and taking a lot of time on the articles, and responding to constructive criticism. But if you disagree, I respect your opinion. Wikipedia will survive without a page on the IIN, and I want to make the site better, not worse. If I can't do that with the time I can afford to devote to it, I can find other useful things to do. I also guess from your phrasing that there is a way to link to deleted articles. I'm not asking you to explain it to me, I can look it up. I just want to be sure I understand you and don't just make things worse. — AaCBrown (talk) 23:49, 19 October 2014 (UTC) I corrected the capitalization in International Institute for Nanotechnology. I added material attesting to the importance of the IIN from BloombergBusinessWeek, Discover, Nanotechnology for Dummies and Nanotechnology Etc. (an industry newsletter). The core information still comes from Northwestern University, as the independent sources are older and don't go into much detail about the institute. Most articles focus specific discoveries or research areas. Personally, I think that's okay. I mean this isn't some foundation I started yesterday or a political splinter group. It really does exist and it gets mentioned frequently in the science and business news. I trust Northwestern about the size, organization, programs and affiliates, and it's hard to think of another reliable, up-to-date source. I can add more news citations, but I feel like they give the article too much of a puff feel. The articles tend to hype things a bit like "one of the premier research institutions in the world," or, "the IIN is essential to progress in nanotechnology" (that last is from the Congressional Record and you can guess what the Senator from Illinois wanted). If a leading scientist, independent of the IIN, had said those things it would be worth including, but if it's the Northwestern PR department talking some journalist into inserting the words, or a Senator drumming up cash for the home team, I think they're pretty meaningless. I hate to overuse them in Wikipedia. Anyway I hope you like it, or at least don't hate it so much you think it should be deleted. If I can improve it in any way, please let me know. If you kill it again, I'll give up and find another topic. — AaCBrown (talk) 01:40, 20 October 2014 (UTC) You are far too long winded. I would describe my attitude as disappointment rather than annoyance but I think the attitude was justifiable. I regularly delete articles such as Steam Car Wash and Greenstar Home Services which are blatant advertising and deserve no warnings. In terms of style and references, your article was very similar so it suffered the same fate. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Understood. Over and out. — AaCBrown (talk) 20:35, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

please explain

Could you please tell me difference between these two pages? List of doughnut shops and list of shops and business enterprises in Butwal. And explain me why one was deleted while other wasn't? (09:53, 20 October 2014 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirmaljoshi (talk • contribs)

• Both were deleted. Doughnut shops were deleted for the reasons given here. Butwal shops were deleted because you blanked the page and left it blanked for 25 minutes. (I will drop another hint: wikilinks!) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Ivan Smolović

Please look at the deleted text and at Draft:Ivan Smolović and consider whether the draft is suitable to move into the main namespace. The main space article is salted. Fiddle Faddle 11:33, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

• Come back when a regular draft: reviewer thinks it is ready for a move. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Shamus Khan

Hello - Someone has created a page called Shamus khan, about a sociologist at Columbia University. I tried to move it to Shamus Khan and discovered the name is protected, due to it having been deleted several times (hoax, non-notable, etc.). Can you help with making the page move to Shamus Khan possible? Thank you! -- Ken Gallager (talk) 13:32, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

• I have unprotected Shamus Khan but the contribs. history of the author lead me to suspect autobio and the references do not impress - refs to NY Times and New Yorker are by him not about him - so I have moved it to draft:Shamus Khan. I would like it to stay there for consideration by a regular draft: reviewer. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:13, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Deletion review for Nur Khan

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Nur Khan. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Matte finish wiki (talk) 19:51, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

• You declared your COI on this page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:21, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Mt. Baker Sesh Up

You just deleted Mt. Baker Sesh Up article. I am currently working on fixing the issue with this article and would greatly appreciate it if you could reinstate it. Thank you. SleeepyD (talk) 23:22, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

YOU ARE A BLATANT MISUSE OF WIKIPEDIA

IHATEYOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiyotairyu (talk • contribs) 13:04, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I know that this is a great blow to your ego, DGG, but if I were you I would carry on anyway. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I doubt DGG is too bothered, Anne... Yunshui ^雲_水 13:16, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• What has DGG got to do with this? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:16, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I think you deleted an article I nominated, and this somehow got people thinking of us as inseparable allies. DGG ( talk ) 17:45, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Book Creator issues

Dear RHaworth, Thank you for deleting the user pages I had created in error. These were the result of something in Book Creator that I am stuck on. Would you mind if I forwarded to you the email which I had sent to the Wikipedia email address? Or should I just paste into this Talk page? Perhaps you could help me out. Thanks a lot! Swamixyz (talk) 20:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• If its less than 1024 bytes, post it here. Otherwise email it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:19, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Haworth, I tried to email you yesterday about a dozen times via the Wiki system. I kept getting the "Action Throttled" message. It was only my 2nd email of the day, the first one went through. I understand they're attempting to block spammers but do they only allow 1 email per day? I had to laugh because the "Action Throttled" page says "try again in a few minutes". I even attempted to edit the email and alter the header so it did not exactly duplicate the 1st email sent but that didn't help. I have now found your personal email on your webpage so I'll try taking that route. Thanks again. Swamixyz (talk) 14:56, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

• This discussion suggests you are limited to 20 emails in a rolling 24 hour period so what were you doing yesterday? If that don't explain it, I suggest you ask again at the Teahouse - it is more than a year since the previous discussion so the rules may have changed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:03, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

WarePorn

Hi RHaworth, the above page was recently created by a new user, WarePorn (talk · contribs). I had tagged the page for possible WP:COI. Will you consider taking a look at the page? Perhaps an advice for the editor. Thank! Wikicology (talk) 10:01, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Confused

Sir, I am confused with this Bijbehara Massacre. The article I think contradicts with itself. The article says that it is about Indian Army vs Kashmiri rebels meaning militants. Then it says that it was an unarmed protest against seige of a mosque and Indian army killed 48 people (protestors). And 12 BSF men accused of firing at innocent people. And the victims were given compensation money.If th the protestors were militants they would have never been given compensation. So that means they were not rebels or fighters because rebellion means armed war. I have got sources which are official newspaper's here which say the people were unarmed, then why does it is said on wikipedia that they were rebels and then contradicting with itself. Thanks Night Fury (talk) 16:58, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

• Gosh, you've discovered what editing Wikipedia is all about! I know absolutely nothing about the subject. You obviously do know something - so go ahead and edit the article! Explain your changes in edit summaries and, for longer explanations, on the talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Night Fury (talk) 19:27, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Great Lakes Institute of Management

Respected Sir, Greetings from Great Lakes Institute of Management. The Wikipedia page for Great Lakes Institute of Management was deleted sometime back. We understand that some of the information mentioned was promoting the institute's name and we respect your decision. We have prepared the new content for the Wikipedia page. Request you guide us as to how we can we make the Wikipedia page active again. Warm Regards Rachit2908 (talk) 05:48, 24 October 2014 (UTC) Rachit Gupta Great Lakes Institute of Management, Chennai

• An article that has survived for eight years deserves better than speedy deletion. Restored but kindly leave it to people with no COI to improve the article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Jock Kane

‎ Hi RHaworth Am not sure if it is right to bring this to your notice but I observed that the above article was created by Gareth E Kegg (talk · contribs) and another new user, JockKane'sfamily (talk · contribs) had started to edit the same article today. It smells like a WP:MEAT but am not sure. Will you consider taking a look? Perhaps leaving a message on JockKane'sfamily talk page. Thanks! Wikicology (talk) 11:50, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikicology is confused. The article was created more than a year ago. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:06, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you David Biddulph. Wikicology (talk) 12:38, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

• What's with this kinky idea of putting the user name in bold? What you should be doing is using one of the {{userN}} family of templates. Conversely using {{u}} to address me on my talk page is pointless - you use it on other talk pages to generate a notification to me. Are you seriously trying to suggest that JockKane'sfamily is the same as Gareth E Kegg? On the other hand it is quite likely that JockKane'sfamily and Shadowyperson (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (See - that's {{user5}} in use.) are the same. The only action needed is to revert their edits - they will probably soon give up. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:16, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you RHaworth! Your corrective suggestions have always been my driving force. I will consider using the template next time. However, It is very unlikely for Gareth E Kegg (talk · contribs) to be the same as JockKane'sfamily (talk · contribs) considering the date of the article creation as well as the fact that Gareth E Kegg (talk · contribs) is more experienced and he appeared to be a trusted editor to me. I brought that to your notice, perhaps to keep an eye on JockKane'sfamily (talk · contribs) because it seems they are not here to build an encyclopedia but for the purpose of the article alone. Wikicology (talk) 14:01, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Create Mirantis article?

I've been working on a series of articles on software companies and media, and people behind them. I just finished putting together an article on Mirantis, which seems an obvious gap here. I was aware that there had been a deleted Mirantis article back in 2012 - insufficient references - but only when I tried to start a new page for Mirantis I discovered someone tried to repost a version of the deleted article just last month.

I don't know anything about that version (I would have already started on mine), but it looks like you were the deleting admin. Would you be able to create a page so that I can publish the article I've drafted? I have about thirty references (WSJ, TechCrunch, BusinessWeek, etc), so I'm not going to be in the same boat as that 2012 attempt. Let me know if you need more info. Thanks. WebHorizon (talk) 20:43, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

• How long is it going to be before you learn to provide wikilinks? Please answer. "Create a page" - it is just possible that you are asking me to remove the page protection. I think I would like a second opinion. Move User:WebHorizon/sandbox to draft:Mirantis; slap {{subst:submit}} on the top of the page and wait a month or two. If an AfC reviewer accepts it, they will probably come to me or you can do so yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:13, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

That's a mystery to me: I not only provided links, I previewed the message to check they were working. (If you look at this diff you can see the links). You're saying I need to wait a month or two to get the article I've written posted? Not sure what the policy is behind that. If you looked at my sandbox, I assume it's nothing like the article which was deleted. — WebHorizon (talk) 16:33, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• Did I say links? No. I said wikilinks. After three years you really should have learned the difference. Would Special:WhatLinksHere/Mirantis point here with the link you provided? I did glance at your sandbox. It does not seem significantly better. That is why I am asking for a second opinion. "Month or two" is not a matter of policy it is just a realistic statement of the delays that some submissions via AfC are currently experiencing. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:50, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Alastair Gordon Christopher McLeod

Verne Troyer

Hi, I am still in the process of creating the below and I was using templates of others to generate the page Alastair Gordon Christopher McLeod. It is not an hoax, kindly refer to the below for verification. I will appreciate if you remove the deletion so I can complete the page. [1] [2] Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Entlife (talk • contribs) 23:00, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

• "He is an heavy Scottish drinker and an avid Barbie Doll collector." Not exactly a good start! Even in your second version you kept the picture of Verne Troyer - why? Please answer. The two links you have provided are presumably the best you can do. So give up. These links merely confirm that he is a director and office holder of some company. But that is simply not evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:03, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Structured search

Hi RHaworth, significant new information has come to light since a deletion and I have put absolutely new page with new links that I believe would justify recreating structured search, but page was immediately deleted without any discussion. Please advise on the next steps. Many companies working on emerging structured search technology (see link below) and will be very sad if Wikipedia editors will continue to ban it. Structured search - Analysis of companies or products focused on structured or faceted search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kandreyev (talk • contribs) 22:29, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

• If nothing else, the new version was longer that the previous so I have restored it. If you want it to be taken seriously you will remove all instances of <br/> and do the references according to Wikipedia standards. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:37, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Unable

I am unable to move Udhampur Railway Station to Udhampur railway station, I think it requires an admin permission. Thanks, Night Fury (talk) 05:03, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

• Another case of asking me instead of doing it directly. Launchballer put you to shame by applying the appropriate tag. Category:Indian Railways was pure slovenliness - you needed a cat at least three levels deeper. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:50, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Have a read of User talk:Launchballer#Udhampur railway station.--Launchballer 20:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Eduard Vieta deleted article

Hi, my Sandbox page on Eduard Vieta was deleted by you for ̈"(G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://gmeded.com/faculty/eduard-vieta-md)". That's my fault, I didn't note the copyright at the bottom of the page. I still need to create this page though, so my question is: am I going to have trouble recreating this page, even if I leave out the copyrighted link? I have the content saved separately on my PC, so I don't actually need the text to be recovered, but that'd be nice too. I apologize for the messūp; this is my first go at this. I appreciate your patience and help. — Chanabaz (talk) 10:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

• Ironic, your draft was devoid of wikilinks and when you do actually create one (above) it is to a page that does not yet exist. Restored to draft:Eduard Vieta. Obviously you can retain the "copyrighted link". What you must not do is retain the copyrighted text. To be honest, it was more a case of close paraphrasing. We do not create a == Links == section - we put the links in line. Please use wiki markup for <ul>. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

IBRAMCO

Mr. Haworth, thanks for keeping Wikipedia up to high standards. I noticed you deleted the IBRAMCO page I created (my first go at this), while I did (try to) defend its inclusion on the website. I understand that you have valid reasons to do so / do not doubt your judgement. Yet, I mentioned that I'll expand and add to it over the coming days and weeks and that I have sources to back it up, but that I am not able to upload (yet) because of Wikipedia rules. What did I do wrong? How can I create a page for inclusion? Is it possible to retrieve its contents somewhere, so that I can add the sources, requested by Wikipedia's guidelines? 6th Common Sense (talk) 11:07, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

• What you did wrong was try and develop an article in mainspace. Start again at draft:IBRAMCO - there you are allowed to start without references. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for your prompt reply and your email. I appreciate that. All beginning is difficult I guess. When the draft is ready, how will it move from there to mainspace (learned that word today! :) ). 6th Common Sense (talk) 11:53, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

• When it's ready, put {{subst:submit}} at the top of it, and wait several weeks to see whether it gets moved to the mainspace or not. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Yankee Racers

Jazz-influenced Folk-Rock? Is there anything not to like about Yankee Racers? Hi RHaworth. I was just about to send the article to AfD - "fails notability, only one brief mention in The Riverfront Times" - when you deleted the article. The result would have been "delete". But still I damn well like their music. Pete AU aka -- Shirt58 (talk) 11:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

My own user page deleted?

Ok, so the editors don't feel that I am relevant enough to have an article, but I can't even have my own user page? What is happening? What am I doing wrong? I am new to Wikipedia, and find it extremely confusing, but I am doing my best to figure it out and follow the guidelines. Also, so, maybe no one cares about who I am, but I would like to at least have an article for my newly developed Three Player Chess game, called "Ch3Xs". It is already a part of the three player chess article, and I feel it is at least notable enough to have an article explaining the rules and it's origin to anyone who might be interested. There are all sorts of other articles on Chess variants. Please help. Thank you, Rue36 (talk) 17:22, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

• The three player chess article only contains a link because you created it. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone else thinks you and your chess variant are notable. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

You deleted draft: PayTabs

Dear Rhaworth, Greetings. I created by company page Draft:PayTabs and since I am not totally familiar with how creating an article on Wikipedia works, I had browsed online and received "assistance" in this job. It appears that has created a problem. Ours is legitimate, truly innovative company for our region. We have appeared in the media on several occasions. Its owned by the largest oil exporter in the World - Saudi Aramco. Our website is www.paytabs.co. Please let me know what I need to know to get the article reinstated and approved. Kind regards, Asif Osman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PayTabs (talk • contribs) 05:58, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

• So blatant, it does not even need my usual mantra! See Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Newzealand123. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:21, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

• You deleted their draft as being by blocked sockmaster Newzealand123, but warned with spamun. PayTabs is requesting name change.... Peridon (talk) 13:53, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
• I must start looking down the page before using 'Add'... Peridon (talk) 13:54, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

• I blocked PayTabs on a spamusername basis and left the corresponding message on their talk page. Only then did I discover Pay Tabs Inc (talk · contribs) and placed the same message on user:PayTabs. In fact I am dubious about whether they are a sock of Newzealand123 (talk · contribs) - their modus operandi is slightly different, eg. Newzealand123's socks never bother to come back and complain about deletion. But Pay Tabs Inc was blocked in the midst of this burst of sock blocks.

But it is all irrelevant: PayTabs is a blatant, self-confessed spam-only account. Any name change is pointless. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:24, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Creating a new page for an airliner?

Mr. Haworth. Please do point me to somebody else if need be, but I need help on another page I would like to create. I tried the Teahouse, but I am not immediately finding somebody as active as you seem to be. I want to create a page for a private airline company having operated from Switzerland and Belgium between 1959 and 1988. Its size was more or less that of Martinair. How do I approach this? Are there templates to use? What should I include? Any other relevant information you can provide? (I posted it just now without Heading and signature - I apologize while feeling embarrassed) — 6th Common Sense (talk) 21:20, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

• Do you really need to ask? Template is a defined term in wikispeak. You are better to ask for examples. Have a look at Category:WikiProject Airlines articles. There are 4000 examples - is that enough for you? And Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines should give you some help. Remember to start in userspace or draft space. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:38, 28 October 2014 (UTC)