User talk:RHaworth/2018 Aug 20

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

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StreamingVideoProvider

For earlier parts of this thread see here

No problem. Just restore my sandbox. — عليّ سعيد (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:10, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Where? it's empty. — عليّ سعيد (talk) 20:57, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

• So what do you see if you look at the place where your sandbox used to be? See also Histmerged? below. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Suicideboys article

Hey, I was wondering if we could discuss the state of the suicideboys article and why it's on three other non English Wikipedia's and not the English one. Let's get in touch. Cganuelas (talk) 11:16, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

• So what do you want to "discuss"? The title to which you failed to link it is just one of innumerable variants deleted under Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/$uicideboy$. However my crude but usually accurate test says that possibly you do not have a serious CoI so if you think they have become sufficiently notable within the last two years, feel free to create a new version, preferably in draft space. I am willing to email you a selection of deleted states - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:54, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I wish to discuss removing it from the blacklist as we should give it a chance to be created. If its on the German, Finnish, and French wikis, then it makes no sense for it to not be on the English wiki. They definitely have become more notable in the past 2 years, garnering attention from numerous third-party hip hop related websites, such as Hypebeast, XXL, and Billboard, as well as getting interviewed by NoJumper on YouTube. Cheers. Cganuelas (talk) 20:16, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

• Links! Give me a link to the blacklist. Give me at least one link to other language articles - in fact I can count seven of them. But please explain to me very carefully the mechanism whereby their presence in an alleged blacklist prevents the creation of a new version in draft space as I have suggested. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Domosaurus Rex

Hi, you recently deleted my entry Domosaurus Rex. I am trying to add this to the data base, please tell me what was wrong with the format or why it was tagged hoax/fraudulent and taken down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph Gambino (talk • contribs)

• There has never been an article called Domosaurus Rex. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:54, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

$$$$$ Why did you delete my draft Domosaurus_Rex? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph Gambino (talk • contribs)

• I note that you are now indefinitely blocked. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:List of honors received by Fred Rogers

Hello RHaworth. I am confused as to how this could possibly be a copyright violation of a copied wikipedia page. The URL it is maintained I directly copied from is this [1], which is a direct copy of the Fred Rogers Wikipedia page! The page I was writing consisted solely of a list of colleges and information copied from Fred Rogers. Please un-delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:06, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

• Restored to Fred Rogers. Why do we need a separate article? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Because it is A) an incomplete list of honorary degrees, and the page was also going to list honors, in a similar form to list of honors received by Maya Angelou. The draft was incomplete. That's why I put it in the draftspace. If there isn't enough for a stand-alone list, I'll merge back, but at least let me finish. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 11:02, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

• And because it is B)? I have no strong feelings, I think it should be incorporated in the bio. article. But if you want a separate page, create it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Histmerged?

Hi! It looks as if you may have done a histmerge at Draft:StreamingVideoProvider. There now seem to be many revisions in that page (specifically, all those before this diff) which have nothing to do with the topic and appear properly to belong to User:عليّ سعيد/sandbox, where I'm guessing that they were before. Or have I got that wrong? Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:23, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

• I agree I have created a mess. What are we to do about this state which mixes valid draft stuff with irrelevant stuff? If عليّ سعيد/ provides me with a list of edits to be moved back to their sandbox, I will do it. But otherwise, I suggest we just let them get deleted when the draft is deleted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Anasuya Shankar

What happened at Talk:Anasuya Shankar? What is "flack removal"? It looks like some history has been removed, and now my comment makes no sense. — Kendall-K1 (talk) 21:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

• Replied at talk:Anasuya Shankar. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Mohammed bin Rashid Global Initiatives

Hiya. This was recommended for speedy deletion and deleted within a couple of hours. I was working on Wikipedia yesterday afternoon and by the evening it was gone - so I didn't get much chance to contest the deletion. The article was based around content I deleted from the Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum page, with additional cites and sourced material from media and from the organisation's own annual report, so some language may well have crept in that, to someone not editing the page, may be a little rich (the Middle East, culturally, BTW does tend to go for richer language and this has been the source of many, many bruising encounters for Arab editors_). I'd much rather the page be flagged for that and corrected than deleted. This is a $400 million charitable foundation that impacts millions, it's not a notability issue and deleting it like this isn't terribly helpful when it could be improved in a few minutes. Can you please either undo the delete or provide me the deleted content so I can work on it rather than effectively deny the existence of the organisation on Wikipedia? Thanks, Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

• Restored . (I assume that unlike عليّ سعيد, see above, you are not going to say "where? it's empty".) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try and get around to it this week and polish it up. Best, Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

A mistake

I think that the owner of User:Floopy235/sandbox has been cleared in the ErnestCarrot SPI. Just thought you should know in case you want to reverse the sandbox deletion. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:00, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

• The sandbox was just drafts for Thandiwe Mweetwa so Floopy won't miss them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

The Passive House Institute US

You deleted the Passive House Institute US page? Why? It is completely different organization than the German Passivhaus Institute (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivhaus-Institut), with a different building standard. This causes tremendous confusion to building professionals, code officials, and people who set public policy all over North America.

Passive building is extremely important to commercial, multifamily, and residential construction, and there was absolutely ZERO promotional text in the page. In fact every statement has a third-party source. Passive building offers engineering solutions, based on science, to the causes and effects of climate change. Please reinstate the immediately and specify what sentence you think are advertising or self-promorional. Sentences can be rewritten in a matter of minutes, climate change cannot.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Morrison (talk • contribs)

• Deleted for the reason stated in the deletion log. Also for a distinct lack of independent references. Text emailed. Try again if you must. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Deceit, Desire and the novel

Why did you delete the page on Deceit, Desire and the novel? The deletion message says there was a copyright infringement. But I do not see how this is possible. The material on this page was either something I had typed myself or some paragraphs I had taken from the Wikipedia page about the Author of the book, René Girard. Those contained a few quotations from published books of Girard but these were in the typical fair use fashion which is normally not considered copyright infringement. So what was the problem? — Fi11222 (talk) 03:37, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Apparently you sent me an email but I did not receive it (looked for it in the spam, etc). What was it about? — Fi11222 (talk) 18:32, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

• A long-time Wikipedia contributor ought to know to provide a link when they talk about a page. Wiki's email process does not let me see your email address so all I can suggest is that you check your preferences to see if you have given a valid email address. The email I sent you was a carefully prepared diff report listing "total match candidates found: 4518". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually, this is strange because my e-mail address in the preferences is correct. And yet I did not receive anything. Is there a way to test ones own e-mail address? Also, I do not understand what "total match candidates found: 4518" mean. Are these candidates of copyright violation? I do not see how this is possible. Again, the page contained my own edits + several paragraph from another article (on the author of the book) which had been on Wikipedia for years. Finally, what do you mean by "provide a link"? The page we are talking about has been deleted so I do not see how I could provide a link to it. — Fi11222 (talk) 02:01, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

• Way to test? Send yourself an email! I have tried again sending you the offending text. Or you can send me a wiki email - that will give me your address. 4518 match candidates - that will be explained when you see the diff listing. If you have kept a copy of your text, you can use the Duplication Detector yourself to see them now. Providing a link - for goodness sake! Read the "wikify!" box that appears at the top when you edit this page. What would you call this: draft:Deceit, Desire and the Novel if it is not the link that I wanted! Please reply. Feel free to phone me (numbers on my website) for more details. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

E-mail sent. — Fi11222 (talk) 09:02, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

• Email received from you. I have a distinct feeling that I have been wasting my time. To proceed please answer me the following questions. The first you may consider obsessiveness on my part but I would still like a reply. What would you call this: draft:Deceit, Desire and the Novel if it is not the link that I wanted! Did you follow the link to the alleged copyvio source? What do you see there? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I did not find a copyvio link in the email I received from you (which is the 3rd one you sent, by replying to my own mail to you. The first two I never received) and to which I just replied (before seeing this message). Regarding the link, I did not know you could link to a deleted draft. — Fi11222 (talk) 03:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• Oh dear, I have to spell it out. That which you now accept is a link contains the words "unambiguous copyright infringement of foo" and foo is a URL (OK, it is not formatted as a link). Have you gone to that you URL? What do you see there? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

All right, I get it. It leads to http://dailyquiddity.blogspot.com/2017/07. But this page has absolutely nothing to do with my article. It contains an article on "Ultracold Molecules Hold Promise for Quantum Computing" and other science stuff. But the content of my article was about a book on literary criticism and philosophy. There is absolutely no overlap between the two subjects. How can there be a copyright violation here? — Fi11222 (talk) 09:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• You really are making very heavy weather of this. You have received one email from me. Was it a diff report or the text of your article? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:27, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Fi11222: That link does indeed start with a discussion about ultracold molecules. But if you scroll down you will see another post about Girard. That link does indeed start with a discussion about ultracold molecules. But if you scroll down you will see another post about Girard. -- S Philbrick(Talk) 14:18, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Oops, I should have read on, I see that this is already known.-- S Philbrick(Talk) 14:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

No. As I said above, your e-mail only contained the text of my draft as an attached txt file. There was no diff. — Fi11222 (talk) 12:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• So: save the text of your draft to your machine; go to the Duplication Detector; select the "Advanced version (allows uploads)"; in Document 1 (URL) enter http://dailyquiddity.blogspot.com/2017/07 and in Document 2 (Upload) select the file you have just uploaded; click "Compare" and see if some "match candidates" are reported. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok, finally I managed to do it. And I understand what happened. This blog post, I think, lifted its text from the Wikipedia article on René Girard (from which I also took the offending paragraph to put it into my draft). Or maybe it is the other way around? You can check with the duplication detector, you will find exactly the same matches. So, if we consider this a copyright violation, the article on René Girard should also be deleted. Should it not? Or at least the section that matches? So, what should I do? Remove this section from my draft? Remove it also from the René Girard article? What is the Wikipedia policy on such issues? Because it is just as likely that the Blog post was lifted from Wikipedia than the reverse. Indeed, at the bottom of the blog post is a link to the René Girard Wikipedia article. Maybe it is best to just leave it as it is because, truly, no one is harmed here. This is a very academic subject and I find it very hard to believe that anyone would fight over a paragraph dealing with René Grard and Mimetic desire. — Fi11222 (talk) 14:27, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

So, can I republish the draft? — Fi11222 (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

In French, we say "Qui ne dit mot, consent", which means: "The one who does not speak, agrees". So, if I do not hear from you by tomorrow, I will re-publish the draft. — Fi11222 (talk) 12:29, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

• What an <expletive deleted> waste of time! All the following you could have reported to me in your first message.

This page on the Daily Quiddity blog is a legitimate copy of the René Girard article (purists would insist that it should contain the {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} licence notice). Curiously Sphilbrick detected your draft as matching that blog page rather than the René Girard article itself. What I think happened was that, foolishly, you had incorporated a large chunk of the René Girard article into your draft for reference purposes even though you did not intend it to be there in the finished piece.

I have restored that which is your original work. Needless to say it needs independent evidence of the notability of the book rather than of its (NB. no apostrophe) author. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Fi11222: Wikipedia has software (CopyPatrol) which looks at recent edits and checks to see if the text is found elsewhere. It works fairly well, although there are a couple types of issues where problems can occur. For example, suppose we have an article about René Girard. It is highly likely that someone, somewhere, has copied some of the content, into say, a blog. If you copy some of that text into another Wikipedia article, CopyPatrol may flag the blog rather than the Wikipedia article. This has the potential that a reviewer (that would be me), might see the similarity of language and flag it as a possible copyvio.

However, while these situations happen almost every day, most are not flagged as copyright issues. Why? Because we have a guideline covering the copying of material form one Wikipedia article to another Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Editors following that guideline will include the edit summary as discusssed in the guideline and tthe potential copyright issue will be marked as acceptable. You didn't identify in your edit summary that you were copying from another Wikipedia article.

It isn't too late, you can use a Help:Dummy edit to add the edit summary.-- S Philbrick(Talk) 14:32, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Will do. Fi11222 (talk) 16:11, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

• Dummy edit not needed - there is no copied material in the two edits currently existing. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Ostensive act

Hi, would you be able to restore Draft:Ostensive act? Cheers! – Uanfala (talk) 19:40, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

• Yes. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Ram Das University of Health Sciences

Regarding deletion of User:Jaspal.singh.asr. Respected Sir, We had uploaded an article regarding Sri Guru Ram Das University of Health Sciences on 6th August, 2018, which was reviewed by your good self and later on deleted mentioning G11 clause - Unambitious, Advertising or promotion. Kindly clarify and give your valuable suggestions or guidance for further proceeding, as we are creating this article first time on behalf of our University.

Reference regarding this University: University Grant Commission of India's website: Please refer to Sr. No. 179 in this PDF. Thanks and regards, Sincerely, -- Jaspal.singh.asr (talk) 07:43, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

• Who are the "we" in whose name you are writing. Corporate accounts are not allowed. Please read this but in any case kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your university is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Conjoint R deleted page

Hi, I spend a lot of time to do quite well and comprehensive website about the software tool I know very well, and now the article, Conjoint R is deleted. I have copy of the article in text format but I don't know what to remove and/or change! Can you give me any suggestion. I only know I should write about yourself at my profil. What is exactly wrong with first version of the article: Conjoint R??? Greetings, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomasz.bartlomowicz (talk • contribs)

• It was not an encyclopedia article: it was the user manual! Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your software is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Need a help

Can you Please move this article to Dravidian movement .Thanks for lot. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:58, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:16, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Orthosilicic acid

Thank you for your work in relation to this subject. Unfortunately, there is another issue that needs to be resolved. In the article orthosilicic acid a lot of the "what links here" entries are irrelevant. This is a legacy from old versions which did not distinguish between the chemical species silicon dioxide and orthosilicic acid. The chemical compound silicon dioxide, aka silica, is often called "silicic acid", particularly in commercial products. Technically this is incorrect, as silica is the anhydride of silicic acid; it is a different chemical compound. It's unfortunate, but it's a fact of life. "what links here" entries that belong with silica or silicon dioxide should be removed from the article orthosilicic acid. Is there an easy way to do this? Reply, please to Petergans (talk) 10:39, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• Not that I know of. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of sandbox page

Please delete User:Oldsanfelipe/sandbox/Pamelia Mann and its associated redirect page. I usually compose new articles offline, but in this case I developed the article on a sandbox page and used the "Move" button. I have another article working in my sandbox: is it better to submit this to AfC? Thank you, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• Pointless but done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Kolkata 64

Hi, Request to approve my earlier created page on a cafe called Calcutta 64. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debojit.p (talk • contribs)

• I have no idea what you are talking about - does the word "link" suggest anything to you? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Turquoise Waves (Mrs. Pinnock album)

This is my made up album. I used to make songs in studios. But don't do it again, OKAY!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.44.216.245 (talk)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Broadband Commission Targets

Hello, you deleted my page on the Broadband Commission Targets, I had another look at the Broadband Commission website on the targets, and they are actually listed CC BY 4.0. Could you please restore the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by bquast (talk • contribs)

• The targets page is simply not-encyclopedic. In the Broadband Commission article you provide a link to the targets on their website and comment on them, eg. to what extent do independent sources consider these targets are likely to be met? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

The Scientist (Arrow) Deletion

Hi You've deleted the page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scientist_(Arrow)) I recently created due to copyright infringement but you seem to be mistaken, the page I created has hardly no relation to the linked website, certainly no copied text. Why didn't you leave any time between marking it for deletion and the actual deletion so we can discuss? Can you un-delete the page, please? Matt14451 (talk) 11:28, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

• "An experienced Wikipedia editor" ought to know how to create wikilinks. The link you give does not even work - try The Scientist (Arrow). See your email - "total match candidates found: 2647" says it is a copyvio. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I accidently put an extra ) at the end of a link, no need to be rude. Some of the matches are things like the a cast list and the showrunners names. I didn't copy from a website I've never heard of. Have you checked the website yourself instead of relying on automated detection software? Please un-delete the page or send me the contents of the page before it was deleted. I copied the synopsis from another Wikipedia article so this website must've copied the same synopsis so they don't own the copyright. It doesn't seem like a well-established or respectable site anyway. — Matt14451 (talk) 14:04, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Matt14451: I urge you to look at my comment in the thread above:User_talk:RHaworth#Deceit,_Desire_and_the_novel as it appears to be relevant. -- S Philbrick(Talk) 15:19, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Ok, I've read that and it does seem similar. Another website has copied Wikipedia and so your system shows it as copyright because I copied text from another article (my mistake for not saying so in the edit summary). What is the best course of action here? Un-delete the article accepting that there is no copyright violation or is deletion the only option? My e-mail is <redacted>. — Matt14451 (talk) 15:32, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

I'd like RHaworth to take the lead. I commented after seeing what appears to be a parallel situation. I haven't looked at the entire sitatuation, but based upon what I think happened, restoration and an request by you to do the attribution necessary seems warranted. If Rhaworth prefers, I can take the lead. -- S Philbrick(Talk) 19:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. That sounds like a good solution. We'll see what Rhaworth thinks before taking action. —Matt14451 (talk) 19:46, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Matt14451: I restored it. Could you add the dummy edit with an edit summary? Thanks -- S Philbrick(Talk) 12:56, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: Thanks for restoring the page. What do you mean by a dummey edit? — Matt14451 (talk) 15:09, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

@Matt14451: A WP:Dummy edit can be used to add the notice suggested in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia -- S Philbrick(Talk) 16:53, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

• Sphilbrick, so why on earth could you not have done the "dummy edit" at the same time as removing the speedy tag and why make it a dummy: why not say something useful as with this edit? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Of course I could have done the dummy edit. However, it is my experience that relatively new editors are not familiar with the concept, and it struck me as a good learning experience. Our help desk are generally wonderful but it's one small nit I have to pick with them is that sometimes someone comes in and asked for help and the response instead of telling someone how to do it is I'll do it for you. I know that I learned better by doing, and I assume others do as well. Do you disagree? Sorry about cluttering up your talk page — I considered taking this to the editor's talk page but I tag a lot of potential copyright vios, and I knew you process a lot of them so I thought it was worth the discussion of one type of problem that needs a better resolution. --S Philbrick(Talk) 14:14, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Matt14451, Continuing my rudeness triggered by your claim to be an experienced editor. You did not put an extra ) at the end of the link. What you failed to do was tell the wiki software that the first ) was part of the link and the second was not. Please tell me which is the better of these two: Link E and Link W. "I copied text from another article" - slovenliness. You should provide a link to the other article. It took me just a few clicks to find the other article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Sphilbrick, user training - I thoroughly agree with you and I seriously considered undoing my edits. But I have probably given Matt enough flack already so I will leave things. But I will suggest that rather than confusing Matt with talk of a null edit, the advice I usually give out is: "explain why the page is not a copyvio: in the text (using an HTML <!-- --> comment ), in the edit summary and in the article's talk page". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

In retrospect, I probably erred in pushing someone to learn such a relatively obscure type of edit. While there is value in having them do things themselves, this probably wasn't the best situation to push that. — S Philbrick(Talk) 20:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of several pages under G5

Hello, RHaworth recently you deleted several pages created by Regent007 because he was a sockpuppet of blocked user, Rashid Ghafoor, but I have a policy-related query regarding this, as, these pages were created by the former when he was given a second-chance by a checkuser in February 2018, it's only after a recent sockpuppet investigation, that it was found out that he was sockpuppeting again and was indefinitely blocked by Bbb23. So, would the pages come under speedy deletion criterion G5, as the ban was retroactive? See: WP: Sockpuppet investigations/Rashid Ghafoor/Archive for more context. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 17:26, 9 August 2018 (UTC); edited 20:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC) and 20:03, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @SshibumXZ: That's a redlink, and provides no context at all. Just FYI. —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia /cheap sh*t room} 19:51, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: thanks! Fixed now. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 19:58, 9 August 2018 (UTC); edited 19:00, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Fixed now, I promise. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 20:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC); edited again at 19:00, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Third time's the charm, they say. Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 20:03, 9 August 2018 (UTC); edited 20:03, 9 August 2018 (UTC) and again at 19:00, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Talking of context, if you tell me which pages I deleted, I will give you an opinion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh, right, here are the pages deleted by citing G5 :— Jawad Rafique Malik; Syed Abu Ahmad Akif; Sikandar Sultan Raja. Whereas, Anthony Appleyard deleted Muhammad Shehzad Arbab and Shahid Mehmood; whilst Younus Dagha was deleted by Tone (talk · contribs). Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 19:00, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• So give me links! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

WP:SALTing IKASI

I don't know if you might want to salt IKASI because it had been deleted by Cullen328 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) and was swiftly re-created afterwards https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=IKASI --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:44, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:01, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Diana Khan

Hi RHaworth. You deleted and salted Diana Khan after an AfD and recreation. There is an article recreated at Diana Khan (actress) that looks similar. Similar enough? Tassedethe (talk) 16:13, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Three years since last AfD discussion so let her have another. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

1417 km

I was rather surprised to find that this had been deleted A1, A11, G1, as I had contributed to its discussion at AfD by pointing out that the Russian article showed a previous population, so that it has some notability as a previously populated place (though, yes, this was not yet shown in the article). It does not appear to be "made up", unless you believe that someone has made it up across 4 wikipedias (to which it was linked). Could you perhaps reinstate it? This editor has created a raft of rather similar stubs for small Russian locations, and I commented at their talk page after stub-sorting many of them this morning: since then they have stub-sorted them, though they are still including excessive detail in a full list of street names against my advice. — PamD 23:17, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

• You need a bit of training in links: your link above was an external link rather than internal and did not work anyway. Try: ru:1417 км (железнодорожная будка). Restored to draft:1417 km. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Dreamer

You are invited to join the discussion at Dreamer The Paromi World. This page have no copyright tested by Earwig's Copyvio Detector but why this page is deleted from wikipedia I want to recover this page. — Nctechnology (talk) 10:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

• Before you do any discussing, I suggest you learn how to create links. And who said anything about copyvio? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

At least you can warn me na but why you direct delete my page I have created .... if like this you deleted some one who is new in wikipedia how they will learn.. you should suggest to improve the article. ... Nctechnology (talk) 10:47, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Pranic healing

Thanks for salting pranic healing. I'd just like to also point at Arhatic yoga (logs) that was also about the same (and already salted Master Choa Kok Sui and Choa Kok Sui). Thanks, — PaleoNeonate – 16:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:31, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again, —PaleoNeonate – 17:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

America ReFramed Episodes Page Deletion

Hi RHaworth, The page I created (America ReFramed Episodes) has been deleted due to (A3: Article has no meaningful, substantive content); which was reported to me on my talk page User_talk:User12224. When I first created the page, I had only set it up so I can work on it later. After gaining more insight on Wikipedia policies on article creations, I created a (draft) so it would not be marked for deletion any more. I have added in more information with sources to the article. Would it be possible to restore it? Best, User12224 (talk) 19:35, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:03, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

THE GLOBAL INVEST and socks

You deleted THE GLOBAL INVEST as A3 about an hour ago. Who submitted it? A draft, Draft:THE GLOBAL INVEST, has just been submitted by User:Minhasaim. I think that there is sockpuppetry. I can't see the history of deleted files. Can you check? I would report User:Minhasaim, but have no idea who the puppeteer is. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• I'm on it, and am about to drop a bunch of blocks. Don't interrupt dinner, RHaworth. Drmies (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Dinner? By my calculations it's 3:15 AM where RHaworth lives. Softlavender (talk) 02:16, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Contested deletion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amani.jarrar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amani.jarrar (talk • contribs) 08:35, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

• Replied here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:03, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Gamma Sigma Epsilon

Since you G12'ed a version of Gamma Sigma Epsilon back in 2010, I thought that I'd drop you a note saying that I'm starting that page. — Naraht (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Emoov

Hi, please can you explain your reasoning behind protecting Emoov. I was making changes to adhere with the comments and now I can't access the page at all. — Googly75 (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

• Your page contained fifteen or so horrors such as: London<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London</ref>. They screamed at the reader: this editor has made no attempt to learn anything of Wikipedia standards: it is obvious that they are only here to sell their company. Your placing of your message in the wrong place on this page without an heading confirmed that. As to "reasoning behind", what does the protection log entry say? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:03, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I have studied Wikipedia extensively to try and ensure that it hits standards. It was an attempt to hit internal linking within Wikipedia - a point which had been picked up previously. I think the immediately deletion and full protection was rather harsh as I am only trying to grow my experience by choosing an company that could be internalised links to four other existing articles on Wikipedia. Can you please lower the protection, so that in the future I may be able to return to this article. — Googly75 (talk) 09:26, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page gnome) It's still possible to improve Draft:Emoov. — PaleoNeonate – 09:33, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Recently Deleted Page - Neighbor Storage

RHaworth, Recently, on 20 June, 2018 at 19:05 you deleted the page Neighbor Storage. Here is the link to the deletion log to show that you deleted the page. I represent Neighbor in this pursuit to gain access to the text we used to write the article. We understand that the article was originally deleted because it was a recreation of our first page Neighbor (company). Here is a [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neighbor (company) link] to that article for your reference.

We've since learned that we went about creating our company article the wrong way and hope to eventually create an article when we have significant coverage for our company according to the rules. We would be very grateful if you could either email me the text for the page or restore it to user: or draft: space. Anything you can do to help us in this regard would be much appreciated! Best, 22:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpre2 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

• Text reluctantly emailed but kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:03, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

my account has been deleted!!

I need info on why my account has been deleted!! I posted my work info on there let me know User:Anthony_Searle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthony Searle (talk • contribs) 00:34, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• It is not possible to delete accounts. A clear explanation as to why you user page was deleted is given in the message you deleted from your user talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:59, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Mongolia women's national football team

According to EAFF's meeting, the first preliminary round of 2019 EAFF E-1 Football Championship (women) will be held in Mongolia. As the host, Mongolia will send their women's football team to compete against other women's football team. So can you recover the page of Mongolia women's national football team? — Younis7435 (talk) 05:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• So can you give me a link to the page? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:59, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

User: Amani.jarrar

What's the best thing to do to have information about me. If you don't accept cv format. — Amani.jarrar (talk) 10:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• Please believe me: any attempt by you to write about yourself here is likely to be rejected: do not waste your time trying. However an article created by following the following advice stands a very good chance of being accepted and sticking. Go to category:Jordanian academics and its sub-categories. Look in the edit history of each article for the creator and anyone who has done extensive edits. You will probably soon spot people who have worked on several articles. Contact these people in turn. One of them is sure to say "yes I think you meet our notability criteria - I will gladly write a bio for you". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Article on Pranic Healing

Greetings. Article on pranic healing was deleted on 14th Aug 2018 citing G11- Unambiguous advertising or promotion. The article has been modified and rewritten. Please let me know what are the next steps. With best regards, Srikanth Jois -- SrikanthJoisNagaraja (talk) 11:51, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

• The next steps are great big strides away from Wikipedia and stay away. But since you have not taken the hint from the eight deletions of the article, you will probably not follow that advice. Go ahead, post it to draft space - it is just possible it might survive for six months before deletion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:58, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

File:'Bridge' by Kenneth Noland, 1964..jpg

Hi RHaworth. You deleted to local version of this file per WP:F9, but the file was tagged for speedy by mistake. The file was converted to PD based upon Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 July 27#File:'Bridge' by Kenneth Noland, 1964..jpg as explained at User talk:David Eppstein#File:'Bridge' by Kenneth Noland, 1964..jpg, so it was actually converted to PD as part of a FFD close by Jo-Jo Eumerus. The file was then moved to Commons where it was now currently being discussed for deletion. It’s possible depending upon the outcome of the Commons DR that the local version will need to be changed back to non-free. — Marchjuly (talk) 11:57, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Western values

Draft:Western values, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Western values and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:Western values during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Bradv 01:05, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:John James (U.S. Senate candidate)

Why was this entry deleted as advertising out of my userspace? — FloridaArmy (talk) 22:42, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not an election platform. take it to deletion review if you really must. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Deleted article Increase Carpenter

You deleted the content of the Increase Carpenter article for a copy right vio, the content was copied from Battle of Long Island, Nathaniel Woodhull, Prisoners of war in the American Revolutionary War and other ref. I was working on the cites, would you kindly restore access to the article so that it can be sourced? — CaptJayRuffins (talk) 00:49, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

• Learn to create a link when you talk about an article. Restored - why should you have to paraphrase "Increase Carpenter is buried in Prospect Cemetery, on the campus of York College, in Jamaica, Queens". It is a sentence which you could have created yourself without ever having seen the article at Weebly. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

user : immortalenigma7

Where did my website go? - brian vargas, m.d. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.92.121 (talk) 02:08, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

It would be nice to know what did it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Immortalenigma7 (talk • contribs) 02:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

• Your use of the word website says it all - Wikipedia is not a free host. Text emailed - we do not want to see it anywhere near Wikipedia in future. Hint: when you do publish it somewhere else be aware that a solid block of text is hopelessly off putting. Have you never thought of using paragraphs? Section headings? Photographs? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Template:TTC colour

Speedy deletion of Template:TTC colour so existing Template:TTC color can be moved there == Sorry... maybe I'm missing something but:

1. My understanding is that if someone disagrees with a speedy deletion, it gets contested, not reverted.
2. This has nothing to do with how common "color" vs. "colour" is within the English language in general... the template is about a Canadian agency based wholly in Canada; in Canada, colour is spelled with a "u", so per WP:TITLEVAR, the article should be titled "Template:TTC colour". This would be like if someone was wanting to rename a hypothetical "Labor unions in Canada" article to "Labour unions in Canada"; that is, a no-brainer. The TTC itself would refer to the word as "colour". This case is the very definition of an article having strong national ties to a particular country and, thus, that country's spelling should be used.

So what am I missing? — Joeyconnick (talk) 06:39, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

TTC colo(u)r template

The template {{TTC colour}} (and its talk page) should be named {{TTC color}} because the family of {{S-line}} templates require it for proper functioning. If you take at look at the colo(u)r templates for UK railways, you will see that although stand-alone ones are spelled with a “u”, the others that are used with {{S-line}} have the American (i.e. html) spelling. Please revert the moves, as this is a matter of proper coding, not linguistic nationalism and Canadian pride. — Useddenim (talk) 15:02, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@Useddenim: okay, that's completely my fault, then, not RHaworth's, as I put the whole thing in motion and argued MOS:TIES. I think ideally {{S-line}} should handle both spellings but obviously that's a problem for another day. Although... quick sanity check of some of the TTC pages and I'm not seeing any issues. What is it breaking, exactly? —Joeyconnick (talk) 18:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@Joeyconnick: I see that Template:TTC colour had had a redirect created from the move, but Template talk:TTC colour and Template:TTC colour/doc didn't…
Bottom line: the template should be at color and redirects (if any) at colour. Useddenim (talk) 19:05, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

So... what's missing is that the subsidiary pages (the Talk and doc ones) weren't redirected? And otherwise everything works fine? I may be wrong but it's possible the Talk page was blank, which would explain why it was deleted rather than redirected. Similarly, if the documentation now refers to the Canadian spelling, not sure that needs a redirect. I am all for ensuring things work as being more important than how a template name is spelled but if things are working whatever the spelling, then I definitely think we stick with {{TTC colour}}. — Joeyconnick (talk) 19:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

• This is Canada - why don't we move it or at least create a redirect at template:TTC couleur?! Nothing is breaking that I have seen but to save {{S-line}} having to go via a redirect every time, the name should use color. Unless Joey objects soon, I shall move {{TTC colour}} back to {{TTC color}}. Another argument comes from Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:TTC colour. There are about 15 templates already using color and the following 10 using colour: Template:Line 1 Yonge–University, Template:Line 2 Bloor–Danforth, Template:Line 2 SSE, Template:Eglinton East LRT, Template:Eglinton West LRT, Template:Line 3 Extension, Template:Line 3 Scarborough, Template:Line 5 Eglinton, Template:Scarborough Malvern LRT and Template:Toronto Relief Line. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
  • My understanding is that redirects are cheap so not sure that's a good reason to move back. Also don't think the 15-to-10 ratio says much of anything since the main template has "lived" at color for quite a while. I assume "couleur" is tongue in cheek given this is 'en'.wikipedia.org. Again, colour and color are valid spellings of the word in English, so really I think this is the S-lime template's limitation ultimately and if that can be worked around by having {{TTC color}} redirect, I think leaving the template at "colour" is most appropriate. —Joeyconnick (talk) 03:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Jake The Great

Can I know the reason for reverting my edits in my User Page? I have seen many user pages which is similar to mine. So, can I get the reason for reverting my edits in my User Page. — Jake The Great! talk 15:26, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

• I spent several minutes puzzling over this. I think that somehow I saw this state and thought is was the current state. Feel free to revert my reversion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Jake The Great! talk 03:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Please delete...

Hi, can you please delete my Ju 338? You declined it with "unspeedy - perfectly OK redirect" but it was a redirect from Ju 338 to 388 – instead I now created the redirect Ju 388 that is really perfect... Regards and thank you in advance -- Cyfal (talk) 17:51, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

• If I did not spot the difference, others might not so perhaps it could be claimed as a plausible redirect. But I have zapped it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you! There are so many Ju (Ju 46 Ju 49 Ju 52 Ju 60 Ju 85 Ju 86 Ju 87 Ju 88 Ju 89 Ju 90 Ju 160 Ju 187 Ju 188 Ju 248 Ju 252 Ju 268 Ju 287 Ju 288 Ju 290 Ju 322 Ju 352 Ju 388 Ju 390 Ju 488 Ju 635) thus a redir for misspelling may be misleading... --Cyfal (talk) 21:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deleting CC-BY licensed material

Hi RHaworth, you've deleted two articles - Wentworth Mausoleum and Wentworth Memorial Gardens which correctly used attributed CC-BY licensed material. Can you please undelete these? The nominator was either confused about free licenses or didn't bother to read the attribution section. The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Nominator more or less acknowledges this. The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:15, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Speedy delete

Hi there, thanks for actioning my request and deleting User:Deon/Userboxen. I did leave a note on the page but it wasn't very obvious so you might have missed it - I was hoping just the most recent revision could be undeleted so the personal information I edited out isn't visible in the page history. Since it's not super-secret stuff, I didn't think it warranted Oversight so hopefully you can just restore the revision that I linked to in the note underneath the CSD banner. Cheers! — Deon^talk 11:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)