User talk:RHaworth/2019 Mar 17

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

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Self-Sovereign Identity

For previous part of this thread, see user talk:RHaworth/2019 Mar 06 § Deletion Self-Sovereign Identity.

• Kantakuziv, cannot find clues! What did I do to Self-Sovereign Identity with a time stamp of 2019-03-03t17:36:44 (if you cannot see the seconds - it is the second of two actions I did at 17:36)? Please reply. Indeed if I had been talking about Draft:Self-Sovereign Identity, I would not have said "gives a clue": I would have said "tells you". What did I do to that page with a time stamp of 2019-03-03t17:40:12? Please reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

"What did I do to Self-Sovereign Identity with a time stamp of 2019-03-03t17:36:44? Please reply." you as written on the page Self-Sovereign Identity ( "17:36, 3 March 2019 RHaworth (talk | contribs) moved page Self-Sovereign Identity to Self-sovereign identity without leaving a redirect". Then when you follow (in that line) the link to Self-sovereign identity page you can see record "17:39, 3 March 2019 RHaworth (talk | contribs) moved page Self-sovereign identity to Draft:Self-Sovereign Identity without leaving a redirect". But then! when you click (in that line) on the link to "Draft:Self-Sovereign Identity" (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Self-Sovereign_Identity&action=edit&redlink=1) you have a blank page without any content or history. So you have to pay attention at the page "Self-sovereign identity" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-sovereign_identity) and see text under the red box - "There is a draft for this article at Draft:Self-sovereign identity." and click on the link to page "Draft:Self-sovereign identity" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Self-sovereign_identity) to find the page where the actual draft is and then check history for my contributions. For people who are not professional in Wikipedia editing this links chasing does not provides clues. Kantakuziv (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

"Indeed if I had been talking about Draft:Self-Sovereign Identity, I would not have said "gives a clue": I would have said "tells you". What did I do to that page with a time stamp of 2019-03-03t17:40:12? Please reply." as written on the page - "17:40, 3 March 2019 RHaworth (talk | contribs) moved page Draft:Self-Sovereign Identity to Draft:Self-sovereign identity without leaving a redirect". But because you have been changing case of the page title along with moving it from (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Sovereign_Identity) to the draft page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Self-sovereign_identity), it created mess of redirects. Kantakuziv (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I am kind of OK to have this mess of redirects now, because I understand it and intend to write and have the article about Self-Sovereign Identity published, which will resolve this redirect mess. But in the meantime, if there is someone else who would want to start writing it might have a hard time of figuring it out. Self-Sovereign Identity is commonly capitalized by the identity community on Twitter and on the Internet. But if we stick to more general rules and have Self-Sovereign Identity not capitalized on Wikipedia. Then we need redirect (clear links) from "Self-Sovereign Identity" page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Sovereign_Identity) to "Self-sovereign identity" page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-sovereign_identity) and from there to "Draft:Self-sovereign identity" page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Self-sovereign_identity). RHaworth do you think it is reasonable? Can you add these redirect links? Kantakuziv (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• What an horrible mess of naked URLs. Please study this edit carefully - apply one or other of these types of edits to the remaining eight naked URLs and I will reply. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:42, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Handball (wall game)

I notice that you deleted the page I created, Handball (wall game) because it duplicated pages already existing, American handball and Gaelic handball. I created that page to be used as a possible merger between the articles. The reason I created that page is because I wanted everyone to see what a possible merged article would look like. See the talk pages on American handball and Gaelic handball. - Sky Blu 2 (talk) 13:40, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello, talk page stalker here. So you brought up the idea, got no support for it there, were opposed there, but decided to go ahead anyway. An entirely proper deletion, I'd say. (If you really wanted to show people, you could have done so in User:Sky Blu 2/Sandbox.) -- Hoary (talk) 13:45, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, at the time, I hadn't got any feedback either way. That's why I created the page, to see what people thought. Sorry if I was supposed to use the sandbox to create sample pages. Maybe I'll create one there to see what everyone thinks.- Sky Blu 2 (talk) 15:25, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• Sky Blu 2, you are worse than Kantakuziv (see previous thread): you have been contributing for 10 years and still have not learned wikilinks! I have followed hoary's suggestion and created user:Sky Blu 2/sandbox for you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:42, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Water Search and Rescue

Hi Roger, Hope you are well and thank you for helping with our wiki page for wsart.org.uk and apologies for not fully understanding the copyright process on Wikipedia. I am in the process of amending the email that I need to send to Wikipedia to confirm that WSART authorise the use of our content and images on wikipedia. This is our first time working on wikipedia and I appreciate your quick help with reviewing our website. When we saw the 8 week timescales, I was not expecting any response for a while.

Once we have sent the email to Wikipedia, we will be able to use our exact wording from our current website. Will that then satisfy the copyright issue? I also did not keep a copy of the content I created, which I should have done. Did you keep a copy of it before flagging the copyright issue? It was only a small initial step for our wiki page so it will not be hard to re-create, just thought I would ask first. Anyhow, thank you again for reviewing our page and any help you can give us. Kind regards Darren Holloway Team Admin for WSART — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrenseuk (talk • contribs) 18:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• It would be far better if you were to wait until someone who a) is capable of writing from scratch and b) has no CoI writes on this subject. But if you insist, note that if I see "we have grown the team" in a wiki article, I am liable to zap it instantly. Also the article stands no chance of survival without independent evidence of notability. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:08, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

James Devoy

Please check James Devoy article. I nominated it for the speedy deletion after a brief check on Google News. The author contacted me on my talk page asking to explain my actions. I have no intention to explain personal notability guidelines to the author, but I also feel that I could have been with my initial move, so decided to ask you as a more experienced editor to take a look at this. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

• As any of my page stalkers will tell you, I am not one to give long replies to newbies so I don't blame your "no intention". But you could at least have provided a link to WP:BIO. Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:08, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

protected Draft:Shaun Yeo

Hi again RHaworth, Thank you for taking the time to re-review my draft:Shaun Yeo. It was recently Deleted due to Unambiguous copyright infringement which I thought referred to the last paragraph of the Draft text. I re-drafted it and deleted said paragraph then re-applied for a re-review. This has now (been deleted??) become a protected Draft. Could you please confirm where I went wrong again and maybe give me some advice in what do do to get this across the line. I appreciate the amount of time and effort people like yourself put into Wikipedia and newbies like myself must drive you a bit batty. Kind regards, LaRosa77 (talk) 03:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• It would be far better if you were to wait until someone who a) knows not to start a page with an <h1> heading and end it with {{Source Wikipedia}} and b) has no CoI writes on this guy. But if you insist on trying again, start from a blank sheet and write it out of your head without looking at any other page. I can let you see the duplication detector report - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:08, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Christina Tung Article

I just realized that the draft page for Christina Tung has been removed for the reason of unambiguous copyright infringement. I have sent an email regarding declaration of consent to permissions-en@wikimedia.org as I have the authorization from the copyright holder to use the text in the deleted page. Would you please restore the article. If not, what are the further steps I have to take in order for the article to be restored? Thank you for your kind attention. Kind Regards, Cheerbell (talk) 06:21, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Beauty World Centre

Dear Mr Haworth, This is Windy Huang from Singapore. I noticed that you recently deleted my Wikipedia draft about the Beauty World Centre in Singapore. I would like to request for access to the work I did. This Wikipedia page is actually a school project assignment for the module called Singapore Urban History and Architecture, which teaches us about the relationship between urban history and architecture in Singapore. I have put in a lot of effort in researching and writing about the Beauty World Centre, as it is not a famous building in Singapore and there is insufficient information about it.

As I am new to Wikipedia, I am not very sure about the Copyright violations policies. I think maybe there are some words or sentences in my wiki page that are too similar to the source that I cited. If possible, I would like to make changes on them and paraphrase my text properly, so that I can repost this Wikipedia page.

I really hope that you can give me some suggestions on how to improve on my Wiki page as I really need it to complete my school assignment, at the same time, providing more useful information for others on this ordinary yet meaningful building. Thank you for your attention. :) Windy Huang — Preceding unsigned comment added by Windy HuangYuntong (talk • contribs) 12:44, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Dear Mr RHaworth: Please send me the deleted draft:Beauty World Centre. Best regards, Windy HuangYuntong (talk) 17:18, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• In my previous message did you see that the words read this were a link? Follow that link and act on the instructions you see there. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Dear Mr RHaworth: Sorry I missed the Confirm email address step. It should be working now. Please send me the deleted draft:Beauty World Centre. Thanks a lot. Best regards, Windy HuangYuntong (talk) 05:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

• Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Avenu suggestions

Hi RHaworth, I saw that you marked the page I published, Avenu, for speedy deletion. Could you take a look at the draft in my sandbox when you have the chance? Thanks. Electricsity (talk) 16:47, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• No, Largoplazo applied the speedy tag. I did the deletion. So what changes have you made to that version? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

I trimmed out everything and I have added a few sources that seem to be additions to the notability. The company is covered by several notable publications. — Electricsity (talk) 13:49, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• You had made no changes at the time I left my previous message. Your draft has been reviewed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:56, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Green Man (God)

I just want the text back. And also why did you delete it everything I said in that article was accurate. If it’s because it’s a Hoax I guess you have to delete the pages about christianity cause that is a hoax too. My email is “email redacted” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Officialgoodnight (talk • contribs) 17:25, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Officialgoodnight, you are welcome to raise the matter at deletion review. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Text has now been emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:41, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Victoria Li

Hi, RHowarth. I was a bit disappointed that the draft on Victoria Li was so quickly deleted. I appreciate there were some initial copyvios (due to newbie editors adding content during an editathon), but I was doing my level best to resolve those issues (substantially editing the offending sections just 10 minutes before you deleted the whole article), and to improve the article overall, but it does not appear this made any difference. It will be dispiriting for the new editors who contributed to that article earlier today to find their efforts to expand Wikipedia deleted. — Paul W (talk) 21:45, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Paul, you do not deserve it! You cannot even copy&paste my name and you failed to provide a link: draft:Vivian Li. Indeed you could not even get her name right! But I have restored your last edit. Some would say that the amount of copying shown by this report is unacceptable, please fix. I do not want to delve into fine detail of the states that triggered the copyvio detector but please give credit in the talk page to SMRussell14 (talk · contribs) who created the page and KatieERoberts (talk · contribs) who did several edits. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:23, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Disappointed that you feel my efforts were deficient. As a Wikimedia UK volunteer, I was trying to encourage and support new editors (acknowledged in the article Talk page). I was racing against a speedy deletion (apologies for the typos - I had other things going on....), and now you tell me I am undeserving.... Paul W (talk) 22:54, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Paul W: At this juncture, I feel the time is appropriate to remind RHaworth of this ANI thread and suggests he refrains from acting in a way that will result in another one. — Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:08, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

• Paul, I can forgive your typos if you were in an hurry, I can understand your reluctance to use copy&paste: especially if one is a swift typist, switching to the mouse always slows things down. What I find more difficult to forgive is the fact that someone with fifteen years of editing and 34,000 edits to their credit does not automatically bracket any page title with [[]] when they refer to it.

Ritchie333, I restored the page within three minutes of Paul's first message here. So what exactly did I do wrong? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

You told an established editor "You do not deserve it! You cannot even copy&paste my name and you failed to provide a link". See WP:AVOIDYOU. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

• I consider that my remarks were well within the bounds of parliamentary language. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:41, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

So was everything Theresa May said here but didn't stop a storm in a teacup anyway. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:46, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

RHaworth - I appreciated your prompt response by a public thanks. I am only an occasional participant in AFC conversations and was unsure if wikilinking to a deleted draft article was appropriate - hence my failure to include the brackets. The Talk page response, however, did briefly make me consider my continued involvement with and enthusiasm for Wikipedia, but messages/requests from participants at yesterday's CRUK Editathon have helped me re-engage as they try to add new content. — Paul W (talk) 21:16, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Out of Bounds (2019 film) Draft

Hello RHaworth. The draft page for Out of Bounds has been removed citing unambiguous copyright infringement. An email regarding declaration of consent was sent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, just a few moments ago [Ticket#: 2019030710010908], as I have the authorization to use the image. I contested the violation through the proper and suggested channels; however, the draft page was deleted in the time it took to send the consent email. Please restore the draft page as it doesn’t violate or infringe upon any copyrights. Also, please find following the link to the deleted draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Out_of_Bounds_(2019_film). Lastly, if you would be so kind as to approve the draft upon restoration as there was no actual copyright violation. Thank you in advance and your assistance is sincerely appreciated. Respectfully, staciwiliams126 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staciwilliams126 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

• Text emailed but it would be better if you would kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your movie is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Roya Mahboob

Dear RHaworth, I translated the English Wikipeadia page of Roya Mahboob into Portuguese in view of the Wiki4Women celebration of the 2019 International Women's Day, but you deleted my contribution. This is my first time on Wikipedia, so I don't know if I did something wrong, but can you please assist me in retrieving the article and publishing, if possible, the translation of the original English article? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blherzog (talk • contribs)

@Blherzog: I've restored this draft Draft:Roya Mahboob, as it wasn't "patent nonsense" as deleted, but a draft in progress to be moved to another Wikipedia. I haven't used the Portuguese Wikipedia myself but I'd be surprised if it didn't have a draft facility too. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:14, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

• Re-instated in the proper place: pt:Roya Mahboob.

Ritchie, see my hat note on the draft here. pt: does not appear to have a draft: namespace. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Orchid International

Hi RHaworth. The user you just blocked, User:Orchid International, is now misusing their talk page and has inserted the same advertisement. — Agent00x (talk) 10:41, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks for telling me. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:24, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Why a redirect?

Thread transferred to User talk:Atsme#Pooh. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:24, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Module:Wayback/sandbox

Could you also delete Module:Wayback/sandbox? Thanks. --Gonnym (talk) 15:49, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:24, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

List of Devices with LTE Advanced

Hi, I was wondering why you deleted the page List of devices with LTE_Advanced. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Underrsc0re (talk • contribs) 19:14, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:24, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

UCLA Asian American Studies Center

Hello, I see that you have deleted this draft University of California, Los Angeles Asian American Studies Center because of (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://asianam.ucla.edu/about-2/). Could you please restore it so that we can re-edit it since we are trying to create this page as an assignment, please? Thank you. Mangowatermelon Mangowatermelon (talk) 01:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

{{tps}} I declined this request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. — DMacks (talk) 02:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

CCTV

[http:// www.youku.com 密战刘佳主演.mp4]直播 [http:// www.youku.com 电视剧天敌.mp4]] - Pengxiaochun (talk) 02:39, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

• Incomprehensible. Possibly a protest at my deletion of their user page. Ignored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Grab your tackle box

You may be going fishing for more trout. I'll be brief - I prodded Pathadippalam because (1) the title is misspelled, and has been that way since 2006, (2) it barely passes as a stub, (3) it lacks a proper description, and (4) has only one cited source. I was going to send it to draft but there is already Draft:Pathadipalam, which is spelled correctly. We also have Pathadipalam metro station that probably needs to be merged into Pathadipalam once we figure out what it is (neighborhood, city, county, or ???) My prod was reverted with an edit summary recommending a move. So if it's moved with the correct spelling, what happens to the draft? — ^Atsme 📣 📧 06:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

• The draft can just die in six months time. Two short sentences do not deserve any special treatment. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Why you put my template at protection

????? Nittin Das (talk) 15:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

• Incomprehensible. Ignored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

AdoptOpenJDK

Hi there, I see that there was a wikipedia page for AdoptOpenJDK and then it got deleted due to copyright infringement. I don't know who previously wrote the article but I was hoping to add some references from some articles that I've collected. When I go to create a new article it says that I should talk to you first so here I am! Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdams1 (talk • contribs) 09:28, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• The previous version was created by Adoptopenjdk (talk · contribs) who, unsurprisingly, is now blocked. I can let you see it - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Dea Studio

Hi, I was editing an article called Dea Studio, an architecture firm in Albania and it was only a draft and it got deleted for "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". How can I rewrite it so it can be approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vatratirana (talk • contribs) 09:39, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• There has never been an article called Dea Studio. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Your A11 deletion of that article in Chinese

You might be interested to know that your treatment of 赤道論 as a case of A11 was mistaken. It's known, possibly among other things, as the equatorial paradox (which is a redirect). On the other hand, I figure A10 would have applied since, even though we don't have an article on it, the subject is covered in more detail at the redirect target than it had in the deleted article. — Largoplazo (talk) 14:13, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• Noted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Bit House Saloon

Resolved

Can you please see my request at Talk:Bit House Saloon? This page should not have been deleted, so I'd like the page restore and moved into draft space if needed. Thank you. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:39, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

The draft has been restored. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Another Believer: Done, moved to Draft:Bit House Saloon. @Graywalls: I don't believe Another Believer is being paid to edit articles in Portland, rather like me creating Dublin Castle, Camden, Sun in the Sands, Black Prince, Bexley and Curious Brewery he likes popping in the pub for a pint. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Ritchie333, Paid? I definitely was not paid to create this article. I've created a discussion at WikiProject Oregon re: whether or not this draft should be moved into the main space. An editor keeps flagging many pages for deletion, and I've asked them to please slow down. I'm also seeking restoration of Elephants Delicatessen, and there's an going discussion here, if you're interested or willing to help restore the page. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:28, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't think you were paid to create the article either, but that's what the CSD tagger accused you of - to which I would say that strong claims require strong evidence. I've restored Draft:Elephants Delicatessen - I'm concerned that wouldn't survive a debate at AfD, but that's not a reason to short-circuit the consensus making process and speedying it. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• Thank you, Ritchie. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Harlan Cage

Hi there. You recently deleted my page which I created on behalf of my friends, the band, Harlan Cage. Apparently you deleted the page due to the band's biography violeting copyright of a website which is making the band's albums available as a torrent download!!!! Please could you put our page back on. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeyland (talk • contribs) 19:17, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mikeyland: I've restored it to Draft:Harlan Cage, and removed the information copied from the band's website. Copyright violations mean something very specific on Wikipedia; see User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to copyvios for more information. — Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• I suppose if the band is defunct, your CoI is less serious. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Wikifying!

Continuing from this:

• Talk:Triple H/GA1
• Wikipedia:Featured article review/CM Punk/archive1
• Talk:Matt Hardy/GA1

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ImmortalWizard (talk • contribs) 19:37, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

• Your original request was "copy-paste". I said: give me wikilinks: from where to where?" You have now given me the "from" but not the "to". But to get you off my back, I have emailed the stuff. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Finnish former municipality

Question, could you restore Template:Infobox Finnish former municipality? I need to rollback all the changes made by that anonymous editor 89.14.152.24, who by the way is CLEARLY using a script... They transcluded all of the if statements rather than substituting them. Thanks. --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 22:00, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piippola&diff=prev&oldid=887308653... --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 22:06, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Why "CLEARLY using a script"? Any insight? — 89.14.152.24 (talk) 22:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, please restore this template so that it can be substed properly. Here's one example of a failed subst that left template variables in the article. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:50, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Jonesey95, and the fix is soo easy, especially for people that have AWB, which I don't [1] 77.11.40.113 (talk) 17:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

• 89.14.152.24, you query the use of "clearly". Like Zachpersonn, I do not believe that anybody could do these 86 edits in 35 minutes! without some sort of automated assistance.

  Jonesey95, what did you not understand about "CLEARLY"? Have seen such allegations several times, even back in 2001/2002. But then there were some people clever enough to figure out how it can be done. Best regards from a Vanguard Editor. 77.11.40.113 (talk) 17:01, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Zack and Jonesey, now restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks. WIll start the fix shortly. --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 17:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

All done. Thanks again for the help! --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 18:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

VoucherCodes Deletion

Hi. Yesterday you deleted the page VoucherCodes stating it was Unambiguous Advertising or Promotion. Having reviewed the text of the article I can't find anywhere that suggests bias or promotion. The information provided is accurate and neutral, and could help any readers that want to learn more about not only the company, but its owners. Can you please let me know the reason for deletion? — TaylorJ1294 (talk)

• So what would you call the words "unambiguous advertising or promotion" (without spurious capitals) if they are not the reason for deletion? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Prose such as "VoucherCodes provides savings opportunities for consumers across retail categories including fashion, travel, home furnishings, technology, health and wellbeing and many more." is not suitable for an encyclopedia article. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:07, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

I meant examples from within the copy, but thank you Ritchie333 for pointing it out. I'm revising the text now and will try again. - TaylorJ1294 (talk) 11:56, 15 March 2019 (GMT)

Template

See Template talk:Db-x3 which I was typing when you deleted the page. This is best taken to TfD for discussion. — Legacypac (talk) 12:44, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

• Please use wikilinks whenever you talk about a page! restored.

Thryduulf, this is best taken to TfD for discussion. Please do not re-tag with speedy. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:53, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't intend to re-tag with speedy now that it has been declined by an uninvolved admin. I still don't understand how it did not meet criterion T2 and will take it to TfD if it is restored in any fashion which means it presents itself as a speedy deletion criterion unless and until the criterion is foramlly approved (the discussion is still ongoing, and despite what Legacypac would like to think there is opposition to it that has raised points that have not been countered, and many of the support comments are little more than votes left before concerns were raised). Thryduulf (talk) 12:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I believe the only reason it was showing up as a page up for speedy deletion is it was tagged T2. Without that tag it should work just like the other CSD templates, but that is why we are testing it. Any insights on this are appreciated, I'm not a big template editor and am learning.

The unusual way of assessing the discussion is enlightening. Legacypac (talk) 13:05, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

As explained earlier, testing happens after the criterion is approved (if it is), which is exactly how it has worked for every other new CSD criterion. The way I'm assessing the discussion is not unusual at all, it's how discussions on Wikipedia re meant to be assessed: determining whether there is a consensus based on the strength of the arguments presented not just counting noses. Anyway, this discussion should be happening at AN or TfD, not on RHaworth's talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 13:48, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Aurora, Illinois shooting/Archive 2

Talk page Talk:Aurora, Illinois shooting/Archive 2 should be deleted, as the RFC is still well underway at Talk:Aurora, Illinois shooting . --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Userbox deletions

User:The Ministry of Truth/Userboxes/Fascist existed for over a decade and is transcluded on ~20 userpages. Deleting it, seemingly per IAR, is unacceptable. It needs to be restored, and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:The Ministry of Truth/Userboxes/Fascist should be allowed to continue. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 16:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

All of these other userbox deletions from today are also unacceptable, along the same lines as above. Please restore them. WP:MFD is the proper venue to seek their deletion. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 17:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I draw your attention to the fact that at least some of these were previously deleted and restored pursuant to a deletion review. I don't like them myself but I nonetheless believe that the best way forward would be to restore them and list them for discussion at xfd. As you may be aware, the deletion of userboxes has been contentious in the past, and there are still quite a few user pages that transclude some of the ones you deleted. Best regards, UninvitedCompany 19:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I have listed these among others at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:The Ministry of Truth/Userboxes/Anarchist 1. Please consider participating. UninvitedCompany 20:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

• My bulk deletion of The Ministry of Truth's userboxes was a big mistake. I started to restore them because I say: if a userbox template is used by ten users, it does not matter where it is: it can remain. I restored User:The Ministry of Truth/Userboxes/Anarcho Syn on this basis and twenty minutes later Fastily zapped it again! I quit. Others can sort things out. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of User:The Ministry of Truth/Userboxes. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 03:33, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Ambreesh Cosmetics

You recently deleted Ambreesh Cosmetics but probably forgot to close the discussion Here at AFD. Kindly check and close. Lapablo (talk) 19:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

• Lapablo, don't tell me! {{nac}} has been created for just this situation. Use it! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft tumpa paul deleted

This page is not unambiguously promotional, all this information are correct and sources are given. This is my first article, I apologize for my writing pattern. It was not formal so i apologize, but now i have corrected it, all unnecessary lines and words have been removed, i have resubmitted please do review and help. Please. Now my page got deleted but i have to create a same one. what to do i can't understand please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown author india (talk • contribs)

(talk page stalker) Something odd is going on here. See also Paul Tumpa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Draft:Paul Tumpa. —C.Fred (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

as am new to wikipedia it was my mistake i created with her username i didnt understand. then i read all details and created from a different user. please help me. i messed up all. i apologize. i have deleated all previous content. please help me. what should i do now ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unknown author india (talk • contribs)

Unknown author india the page was deleted because it was promotional. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Paul_Tumpa&oldid=887631972 and you also blanked it out before CSD could be carried out. I'm not sure why it was renamed to Paul Tumpa, other than that a user by the name of Paul Tumpa contributed to it. The actress is supposedly Tumpa Paul with Paul as the family name. Regardless, what was written was still blatantly promotional. Sun Network link http://www.sunnetwork.in/Default.aspx?Lang=bengali is a general television network website and doesn't list her name. https://aranyak.webs.com appears to be a business website that employs Paul. The rest are links to wikipedia pages or Facebook. Need other news sources that cover Tumpa Paul in detail. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

• I was, in fact, inclined to let your page go for review but it has been deleted. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

CSD Discussion

As you recently deleted a template that I CSDed, can you share your thoughts on this thread? --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 21:51, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

• Thoughts shared. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Course page deletions

Hello RHaworth, I noticed you've deleted some course pages:

• Wikipedia:Outreach Dashboard/Queen Mary, University of London/Research Methods Film Spring 2018
• Wikipedia:Outreach Dashboard/Queen Mary, University of London/Research Methods Film
• Wikipedia:Outreach Dashboard/Swansea University/LAA319 - Competition Law
• Wikipedia:Outreach Dashboard/Brooklyn Prospect Charter School/IB Psychology (SS 2016)

Please can you restore them while they are being discussed at Wikipedia:Education noticeboard. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 09:59, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

• Restored and a few more that you did not list. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

ACIL Allen Consulting

Hi RHaworth, I noticed that two weeks ago you deleted the article that I initially created, ACIL Allen Consulting. If there was a discussion about this before the deletion, I missed it and I can't now see the talk page to see what the discussion involved. If there was not a discussion about this before the deletion, shouldn't there have been?

When I initially created the article, there was discussion about whether the topic was notable. I included additional sources to establish notability, and it was subsequently approved. I certainly don't think it qualifies as "G11. Unambiguous advertising or promotion". I don't have any affiliation with ACIL Allen, and the article described significant criticism of them - particularly over their tobacco promotion. Thank you. -- AntediluvianBlue (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

• This unexplained edit by an account, apparently created just to do that edit, caused it to get a speedy tag. So I have restored it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Article

Hi User:RHaworth recently I create a general article on Eazystock which got deleted due to volatilizing policy of Wikipedia for promoting the business. You are expert and editor and for sure you must had seen something wrong which is why it got deleted. I went through your first article and understood how it will have to be, but just need to know will I be able to create an article or not, please guide! Thanks Aankitmishra (talk) 16:49, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

• Following the policy, this page was indeed made volatile and, quite rightly, evaporated. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here.— RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Permission to Resubmit

Hi User:RHaworth I recently had my article for Draft:Shelby J. (Musician) deleted. I have created a brand new version of the article from scratch and I'm hoping to submit this version for approval. As you are the the admin in charge of the article, preventing it from being created again, I was pointed to you for this approval. Please let me know next steps.— Princefriend (talk) 13:59, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

• The preferred next step is that you should kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks this guy (you?) is notable and writes about him here. But I have not (yet) protected the correct format title: Draft:Shelby J. (musician) so there is nothing preventing you resubmitting. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:37, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

OK to restore a draft?

Hi! One of my students moved their sandbox to spatial cloaking pre-emptively, as the content in the sandbox was in no way ready to be moved live. I've cautioned them on this via Wikipedia but also via email. They do have some general notes in the page, however, and I was wondering if you would be willing to restore it to their userspace at User:Nsjlcuwdbcc/Spatial cloaking. If not, is it OK for me to email the student a copy for their class records and so they can pull their information from it? — Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:36, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Shoot, I overlapped you! I received a notification that a student's article was up for deletion and saw that it was the spatial cloaking - I'd assumed that the student had moved the work in their sandbox live again and was trying to quickly move it to their sandbox before it was deleted again. Sorry about all of the chaos! — Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

I was in the process of writing up a rather stern response to them about moving their work live, so I'm glad I don't have to do that! Sorry and thanks again! — Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of file:VinesauceJoel.jpg

Please restore the image. There was no copyright violation and I explained in the talk page that it was fair use and I even added a fair use rationale in the file page. — AwesumIndustrys (talk) 19:45, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

• I did think of refusing to reply until you provided a link. The guy is still alive so what is preventing someone obtaining a free image? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Draft Michalis Tiverios

Could you please send me the deleted draft for Michalis Tiverios in order to make the necessary changes and resubmit it ? I had put a lot of effort to provide primary and reliable sources and references and I was surprised to see that it was deleted. I would be very grateful if you could briefly inform me for the reason that you totally deleted it without giving me the chance to solve the problems. -- Dimiterzop (talk) 12:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

• Learn wikilinks! Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:16, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Viewmont Viking/List of Scientists

Why did you delete this userspace draft as a G13? The draft was not blank and it did not have an {{AFC submission}} template, so I'm not sure how the criterion applies. I ask this purely out of curiosity: I'm a newcomer to Wikipedia's deletion processes and I'm trying to get a better understanding of the speedy deletion criteria. — Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 15:58, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

• Don't tell anybody but it has been known for me to delete dead drafts from user space even if they have no AfC tag. Technically this one was not dead because the user had done this trivial edit, clearly in an attempt to keep the page live. However the rules for G13 state that such pages must be restored on demand so I have done so.

Viewmont Viking, within the next year, either submit the page for review or request its deletion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:53, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

From Mrphilip

1st problem, you used a G12 deletion which we uncalled for and you should be reported for using.

This applies to text pages that contain copyrighted material with no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a compatible free license, where there is no non-infringing content on the page worth saving. Only if the history is unsalvageably corrupted should it be deleted in its entirety; earlier versions without infringement should be retained. For equivocal cases that do not meet speedy deletion criteria (such as where there is a dubious assertion of permission, where free-content edits overlie the infringement, or where there is only partial infringement or close paraphrasing), the article or the appropriate section should be blanked with

Zero time given for the author to correct or explain the use of text which was simply verbiage from the 21st Century Cures Act of 2016. The University where is was 'cut & pasted' from added one sentence before and after public domain legislation. Did you read the article or just make a decision based on editing software summary of how the characters got on the page?

Additionally you cite improper use of information from the . http://sites.nationalacademies.org/dbasse/cpop/dbasse_190803 I used this page and the other linked from it all about a workshop they held.

Regardless of the what,

17:14, 16 March 2019 RHaworth (talk | contribs)

deleted page

(G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://isgmh.northwestern.edu/2017/01/20/21st-century-cures-act-calls-for-expanded-nih-focus-on-sexual-and-gender-minority-health/, http://sites.nationalacademies.org/cs/groups/dbassesite/documents/webpage/DBASSE_191476.PDF) (thank). — Mrphilip (talk) 03:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Mrphilip, your attitude is not going to get you far. This is a collegial project. Content is decided by consensus. Don't know how it works in your neck of the woods, but in my neck of the woods it is much easier to build consensus by discussing things collegiately rather than calling other, much more experienced editors names and demanding that this 18 year old website change the way it works to accommodate you. Just sayin....you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Also, cool it with the ALLCAPS. It's just rude. John from Idegon (talk) 04:23, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

If most of the page is copyvio we ax the entire page. The newer and newer authors the faster we ax instead of remove portions. It is your responsibility not to introduce copy vio per the notice that comes on every edit you save. You don't get 6 months to fix it. — Legacypac (talk) 04:32, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

FYI there is also a thread about this here Wikipedia:Teahouse#how many hours should be allowed before deleting draft article reviewed 1x. — MarnetteD|Talk 04:46, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

As none of you have seen this article it might be inappropriate to pass judgement on a minor portion of the articles content. What was a simple fixable copyright error on my part was in reality a subsection within one portion of the larger articles structure. — Mrphilip (talk) 06:05, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Raised the issue here [2] at ANi. — Legacypac (talk) 06:27, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

• Mrphilip, please read this and this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:53, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Begoon/adduploadslink.js

Hi. Thanks for deleting User talk:Begoon/adduploadslink.js, but I actually only created that page to request deletion of User:Begoon/adduploadslink.js, and left a note on it to that effect. As CSD tags don't work on js pages it seemed the only option. Apologies for any confusion. -- Begoon 09:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Jaiden Animations

Hi, you deleted the draft for Jaiden Animations that I've been working on. It was deleted because it was tagged for deletion under G4 criteria. That tag was unfairly placed. G4 explicitly states: "It excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version," which applies to the draft I was working on. First, I never saw or edited, or was involved with the version of the article that was deleted via discussion. Secondly, that version was deleted in August 2018. I began working on the draft in December. About 11 or 12 of the 27 references that were included in the draft I worked on were all published after August 2018, meaning that there is no way that the draft was "substantially identical" to the deleted version. I would like to retrieve that draft so I can continue to work on it, as I believe that if not already, it's at least on the verge of being suitable enough for inclusion on the mainspace. Thank you Soulbust (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Jean Baptiste Vuillaume

Dear Mr Haworth, I wonder why you would choose to delete the document I posted on Wikipedia regarding the life and traits of Jean Baptiste Vuillaume without even contacting me. Is that something that makes your life more enjoyable, I wonder? By the way, if you state the document constitutes an Infringement, (something which is rather serious legal matter), I suggest you ask first who owns the Copyright on the page you claim I infringed. Regards, MJZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Celtic-Lines (talk • contribs) 19:23, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Neurosexism

Do you have the text of the page you deleted on 16 March on Draft:Neurosexism, on which I was lead editor? I would greatly appreciate recovering that text. J.birch2 (talk) 20:06, 17 March 2019 (UTC)