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Mariah Carey listed for FAR

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(t · c) buidhe 02:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Madame web

you reverted an edit listing it as a bomb. Your reasoning was that it made 96 million gross on 80 million budget. And was thus profitable. That is completely false. A studio gets about 50% of gross in revenue so Sony has a bit under 50 million in revenue on a 80 million budget still very much losing money. On top of the reported 100 million spent on marketing. If your going to edit film articles it would help to have a basic understanding of revenue and expenses for the studio in relation to box office totals Holydiver82 (talk) 04:43, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

$100M doesn't seem to be confirmed last I checked, Holydiver82, and either way there still is time for the movie to earn more at the box office. It frankly is a bad habit to prematurely label something as a bomb before leaving theaters. I don't know why anybody lacks the patience to wait for the end of theatrical runs, but they shouldn't be so hasty with such declarations. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 05:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

is it early to call it a bomb when it is still in theatres? yes should wait for final box office numbers. but it is very much currently losing money and the box office totals are likely not going up in any significant way. is it possible it could do over 160 million and cover its budget? anything is possible, sans a miracle it will be a box office "flop/disappointment/bomb/loser/etc" that will lose sony money. really the only question for the film is exactly how much money it will lose at the box office when the final numbers come in and if anyone has reliable enough totals for marketing costs. but again 96 million on 80 million budget is very much in the flop/lose money category Holydiver82 (talk) 19:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Let's not jump to conclusions about what its totals will be. When there are no firm guarantees on this, your "sans a miracle" and "only question for the film" remarks sound unfairly presumptuous. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

the film has been out for a month, it sits below 100 million. even an extremely conservative marketing total would put the total cost to sony well over 100 million. yes, it would take a miracle for this film to suddenly do over 200 million at the box office, especially when the censuses from critics, reviewers, RT, everywhere has been this film is absolutely terrible. its only redeeming quality seems to be to watch it ironically based on "its so bad its fun to watch" you can reference the wiki page to see how poorly the reception has been. bad films that have been out for a month generally do not magically double box office revenue in its final weeks in theatres. Holydiver82 (talk) 19:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what watching something "ironically" is supposed to mean or how one thinks it can be "fun to watch" something they think is "bad", but whether films are "bad" is a personal opinion, and whether critics like something is a separate matter from how much gets grossed (there are times when widely praised movies have poor earnings and vice versa in addition to any situations where they do poorly or quite well in both regards). Neither of us have a WP:CRYSTALBALL to see future results, and you shouldn't make assumptions for this solely based on performances of other films or how much has already been generated. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

sans an act of god this movie will lose 10s of millions for sony at the box office. that is just reality, however unpleasant that may be. someone who doesnt know that box office gross does not equal revenue to the studio probably is out of their depth talking about films Holydiver82 (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Regardless of how much is earned, your snide remarks on being "out of their depth" are completely unnecessary, and please don't patronize others whether you agree with them or not. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Ben Rector

Hello SNUGGUMS, this is from Ben Rector’s team. While we appreciate your input on his history, we would kindly ask if you don’t mind to hold off on making more edits as we want to keep his wiki accurate as possible. Thank you so much for understanding. Thank you in advance for your understand and consideration. Best, Ben Rector (UTC) ADHP2024 (talk) 17:39, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

I only have made one minor change to the article so far, ADHP2024, and having someone from a subject's team make any major and/or contentious changes their page is frowned upon per WP:Conflict of interest. Same goes for Wikipedians in general trying to edit bio articles on themselves. You might be able to bring up suggestions for specific changes on the talk page and discuss certain aspects of it, but please do NOT alter things drastically. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:45, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi SNUGGUMS, Can I please suggest that you keep out that Ben Rector is a devout Christian and any irrelevant quotes pulled from interviews, that should not be the focus of Ben's Wiki page. No other singer songwriter has a page like that, it should be kept to the facts and the highlights, not include so much storytelling and narrative. Can I also please suggest that his releases are factual so they stay listed as they are non promotional but just an accurate description and timeline of his release history. Thank you! ADHP2024 (talk) 18:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

On the contrary, there are other singer articles talking about their religious affiliations (or lack thereof), and I don't see any good reason to delete this for someone who has used it as a theme for songwriting. Having at least some interview quotes (though certainly not every single one conducted) helps give insight into a subject without just monotonously focusing on only what was released. A particularly glaring problem is you tried to remove family details from his page as that makes it feel incomplete. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Ben Rector

Thanks for the page protection. Most of the edits made here seem to be just a reversion of the work I've done on the article so far. Do you personally see something glaringly wrong with the work I've done here so far that would call for someone to WP:TNT it? Also, I'm curious if there is a genuine COI issue to be found here... one guy did claim to be Ben himself, but the content they removed is very out of character for him (here lol). Panini! • 🥪 17:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

All I know for sure is that the article should be protected from IPs and new accounts, Panini!, and would have no objections to making it indefinite. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 22:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again; just making sure I wasn't missing something. Panini! • 🥪 04:43, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:TFAP

Hi Snuggums. Katy Perry just got added to TFAP as a rerun for October, and I don't see evidence that you or anyone associated with the article was consulted. Any thoughts, in either the yes or no direction? - Dank (push to talk) 15:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

If it gets featured on the main page on October 25th for her 40th birthday, Dank, then I'd be fine with that as long as I get to preview the blurb ahead of time as much as changed since 2014. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Kanye West lead

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Album Certification

Nice gag. If the RIAA or BPI certifies a release for a certain amount, then that's the amount. And yes, downloads, as well as streaming equivalents count towards total album certifications. Plus, original record certifications were ALWAYS for copies shipped to stores, NOT over-the-counter sales. As an obvious example, the four KISS solo albums were all certified Platinum(1 million copies each), despite most physical records being returned unsold to the record label. I don't like "streaming equivalents" counting towards total sales any more than you do, but that IS how these certifications have worked for years... 197.87.135.139 (talk) 19:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

There is no "gag" on my part, IP; you shouldn't have deleted pure sales based solely on certification level. If you have some other citation talking about copies sold (whether physical or digital) that doesn't just merge it with stream counts, then by all means feel free to instead add that. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

I honestly have no clue what your point is. Did you see the Teenage Dream US certification? 9-times Platinum, but only about 3.1 million listed as "Sales"!!!! What are the chances of that, realistically? And why are you ignoring Certifications to go with "pure sales"? if one copy is bought today, then your "pure sales" become instantly obsolete. Assuming they were accurate at all to begin with. But Certifications can be known exactly. In any case, those "pure sales" figures are from some years ago. They're undoubtedly obsolete either way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.87.135.139 (talk) 19:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

My point is that the numbers without streams DO matter and should be acknowledged as a different figure from what one would get when counting streaming equivalent units. You might be surprised how large such discrepancies can get. Either way, I most certainly did see the UK and US certification levels. While it's hard to track day-to-day updates for sales (especially when the press seems to focus primarily on first and second weeks before later going into cumulative totals from time to time), my understanding is that the most recent known non-streaming numbers are what articles should use for the sales/certification box. From what I've seen, certified unit levels are mainly implemented when one doesn't have a more specific figure to use, so that was why I deleted the UK and US numbers that included streams. It would be nice to have a more recent update that isn't just going off what BPI, RIAA, ARIA, or anything similar certifies something for, but unfortunately pieces under 4 years old aren't always available. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Kanye West lead

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

96th Academy Awards problem

Hi there,

I have a problem regarding edits toward the 96th Academy Awards. A user with the code 46.44.158.42 keeps adding red links to the article even though previous Oscar ceremony lists that have been promoted to FL do not have red links. Before this gets out into an edit war or canvassing war, can you help mediate this problem? Here is the link to the talk page: Talk:96th_Academy_Awards#REDLINKING:_edit_war_(2_varieties:_corresponding_foreign_articles_vs._no_articles_at_all).

Oh, also he keeps citing names for the In Memoriam that using the respective reference (A Frame) that don't confirm if said names were placed at the end of the In Memoriam segment on the actual telecast or if they were just listed on the AFrame newsletter itself because of no room for the final slide or actual montage clips. And based on a previous FLC, the references have to match the claim or facts that is being stated.

--Birdienest81talk 23:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

I just left some comments on the thread. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)