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A barnstar for you!

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	This is for being an excellent developer of Huggle, MediaWiki, and other technical softwares that make editing Wikipedia or wikis in general much improved and easier. Your work is appreciated! SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 16:31, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Module:Huggle

Module:Huggle has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi, thank you for triaging T192047 as high priority issue!

I was afraid I might have annoyed you with T191930 before. Sorry if the reason for re-opening the bug appears to be unnecessarily demanding. I have actually implemented a workaround now, and it does work except for "warning", which coincidentally happens to be at the bottom of the list anyway. I am unsure if this is really a suitable long-term solution, and I'd argue that there might be no good reason to manually implement any other sorting than a strictly alphabetical one, to keep the menu user-friendly and easy to navigate.

Do you think we should coordinate the next Huggle release with the enwiki Huggle config change? Would T191930 likely be part of it, and is there any suggestion on how long I should wait with the config change? We lack testing by an administrator yet; everything that rollbackers can test seems to work so far.

There is a little issue that you might be able to quickly point out to me, knowing how the program works behind the scenes: Huggle 3.5 does not yet detect the presence of shared IP warnings on IP talk pages, or - more likely - my configuration has an error in the last two lines: User:ToBeFree/Huggle-Config-Sandbox.yaml

These lines have been copied from the legacy config and surprisingly worked out of the box... almost.

To me, it looks like "shared-ip-template-tag:" is meant to give Huggle a hint what to look for, and it doesn't find this on IP talk pages even if it is there. The result: Huggle adds the "shared-ip-template", not caring if it has already been added by Twinkle or Huggle. Am I using the YAML syntax wrongly here? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:31, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

^{PS: You might be considering doing the last needed tests and then copying the sandbox content to the original page as a nice-meant gesture. But I'd love to make the enwiki main config update myself -- please let me have that glorious moment of making my update go live. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:36, 11 May 2018 (UTC)}

PPS: Here's an example of the issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.202.191.79&oldid=839696657 -- it's not bad, but it's not perfect yet either. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, there is no need to apologize for creation of tickets, I don't know what is Huggle 3.5, do you mean 3.3.5? Did it work in previous versions and if yes, in which version? Next Huggle release is quite major update (3.4.0) and will happen probably in weeks (or months?) so I don't know if you should wait for it. Legacy Huggle was using its own syntax for config, new version is using YAML, there are many syntax validators available out there. Petrb (talk) 18:06, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I meant 3.3.5! I originally wrote a long explanation here, but I noticed that the problem has been magically solved! It has probably been a caching issue.

Original problem: This duplicate addition of the shared-ip-template.

Today I tried again, and the issue did not happen again.

~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

For the English Wikipedia (and thus for me), T191930 has been solved by your tip. Thanks again!

About the Huggle release, unless the re-sorting of the welcome message list has any effect on keyboard shortcuts, I think that I won't specifically wait for 3.4.0. All problems have been nicely solved! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:25, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thank you very much for helping with phab:T191930 and phab:T192047! This has allowed me to let the Huggle configuration change go live. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Mats Valk

Hello! I see you reverted an edit here although the edit was constructive - it just brought the information up to date - as you can see here. I know that 84.106.82.192 is rather disruptive at times, but this seems to be a false positive. I'm going to restore 84.106.82.192's edit. Just FYI, in case you're wondering what's going on. Yours, Judith Sunrise (talk) 16:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Interesting, I preventively reverted all edits made by that IP, because all of them with this exception were pure vandalism, so I assumed this one was vandalism as well. Petrb (talk) 18:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Config

Hi. I downloaded Huggle's source code (tar.gz). I tried to run "huggle3-qt-lx/configure". It shows this:

/Users/??/Downloads/huggle3-qt-lx/configure ; exit;
??-MacBook-Air:~ ??$ /Users/??/Downloads/huggle3-qt-lx/configure ; exit;
Checking all required packages...
Checking for cmake...                                                  [OK]
The libirc directories are missing! Fixing by using a backup file...
/Users/??/Downloads/huggle3-qt-lx/configure: line 207: cd: src/3rd: No such file or directory
logout
Saving session...
...copying shared history...
...saving history...truncating history files...
...completed.
[Process completed]

Is the "libirc" related to the IRC inside Huggle (which I asked in Feedback a week ago)? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:21, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

However, when I tried Huggle 3.3.0 the irc works fine (can show who’s online) lol. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:41, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I tested versions 3.3.0, 3.3.1, 3.3.2, 3.3.3, 3.3.4, 3.3.5. From 3.3.0 to 3.3.3, I still can see online users, but from 3.3.4 onwards, it didn't show up, so I think that the problem is between versions 3.3.3 and 3.3.4. Thanks. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:34, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

OK, anyway that configure script needs to be started from terminal while active directory is Huggle's repo. Petrb (talk) 14:01, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Javascript extension

Hi Petr, regarding this, I would like to request a script that can notify you when receiving notices (thank or article reviewed) or someone's ping? I don't know if that's possible. Thanks. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

I will try to make that. Petrb (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Huggle feature

I also wonder if normal edits can be performed in Huggle. It would be much convenient. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:07, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes, in latest beta you can do that Petrb (talk) 16:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I’ll try that ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 21:23, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Traffic counter extension

Hi Petr I just checked out the traffic counter extension you made. It was pretty good. However, I found that the overlay box is a bit dumb. I think that Huggle users have a certain level of concern regarding the network traffic Huggle is using (because of the huge queue of edits). Can it be an official feature of Huggle rather be an extension? It should be best located at right hand side of the bottom bar (Processing X edits and X queries). Thanks. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:37, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

The problem here is that it's not accurate, that's why it's just an extension. Some of the traffic is compressed and encrypted. The calculated size is size of decrypted and uncompressed packets only. So given that it's not giving you exact traffic usage as seen by OS, I decided not to put it to main interface so that people don't complain about it not being accurate if compared by some OS tools for traffic monitoring. Petrb (talk) 08:38, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Ok understood. How about moving it to the bottom bar? As I've said, it looks dumb and too big. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Here is versin for you: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Huggle/JS/traffic_status.js it looks pretty ugly on low res screens though, because it doesn't fit to status bar size. You will need to get latest nightly build for it to work. Petrb (talk) 12:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Huggle - thank you

Hi Petr, Thank you for your assistance and I have reinstalled Hunggle and it works. Btw, I have been to your lovely country. Prague is such a beautiful medieval city with all the breathtaking architecture of different eras and style. Cheers and see you on Huggle. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Using talk pages

About your comment here.

How you feel about racism or what is "evil" has no place on an article talk page. Your speculations about how some group might perceive editorial choices, has no place on an article talk page.

Please base your comments on reliable sources, and the policies and guidelines, in the future. Thanks.

Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. I am glad to see that you are discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages such as Talk:Sarah Jeong are for discussion related to improving the article in specific ways based on reliable sources and the project policies and guidelines, not for general discussion about the topic or unrelated topics, or statements based on your thoughts or feelings. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 18:53, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your template, welcome to Wikipedia as well! Sending warning templates to long-term contributors is considered extremely rude, impolite and generally dumb thing to do, and I will end this discussion with giving that information to you. Bye Petrb (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

If you make newbie mistakes, you get newbie reminders of what is correct.

I am aware that some people find template messages offensive. You are apparently one of those people. You can let people know you are a member of the WP:DTR school with an edit note or by using {{Don't template me}}. Jytdog (talk) 20:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Jytdog: WP:DTTR ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 01:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

You should try reading what i wrote and clicking on the links that you don't recognize. Jytdog (talk) 01:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

You should try stop templating regulars and reading essays that you don't really care. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:38, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Abelmoschus, I think it's better if you don't feed the troll and let this thread vanish into past... ;) Petrb (talk) 16:46, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

This from a person who actually thinks that a media circus should drive WP content. This comment at the article talk page is just so deeply incorrect with regard to WP:NPOV and WP:NOT, two of the most important policies we have. Please do read WP:NOT and especially WP:NOTNEWS, and WP:RECENTISM as well. Good lord. Jytdog (talk) 19:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Huggle 3.4.4

Hi Petrb,

If, for simplicity, I delete an underside of an article with Huggle using the Control + D key, because the content of the page was nonsense (for example [1]), then the discussion page of the main article [2] automatically becomes „Page dependent on a non-existent or deleted page“. Can this be turned off by the software? Greetings and thanks. Regi51 (talk) 18:59, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, what exactly do you mean by "underside" of an article? You mean the subpage /Staffel_12? You say that when you want to delete a subpage, Huggle also deletes the talk page of root page? If yes, that is a bug. Petrb (talk) 11:38, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Petrb, that's what I mean. If you look here. Incidentally, I find the helper you programmed wonderful and I do not want to miss it anymore. greetings Regi51 (talk) 18:22, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

T203385 Petrb (talk) 10:54, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Regi51 (talk) 18:51, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

It just happened again, while the Phab claims to be solved. Is there something more to do about this? Grüße vom Sänger ♫ ^(talk) 15:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, can you please try with latest nightly build: https://petr.insw.cz/huggle/nightly/huggle3.zip Petrb (talk) 09:16, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Huggle manual header template needs new user config link

Hi Petrb

As posted on #huggle IRC chat:

[18:26] <waddie96> the {{Wikipedia:Huggle/Header}} template at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle/Header needs a link to the new 'User config' now stored at Special:MyPage/huggle.yaml.js
[18:27] <waddie96> the header template is used with different source code on meta and mediawiki
[18:28] <waddie96> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Huggle
[18:28] <waddie96> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Download

Best, Waddie96 (talk) 16:32, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello, you can fix it! Everyone can edit ;) Petrb (talk) 11:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Huggle on Commons

Dear Petrb, what can be done to activate Huggle on Commons? Please see present discussion on Common Village pump, and an old discussion on Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive_16#Commons from April 2011. Dan Koehl (talk) 09:53, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I am also interested in using Huggle on Commons (I can't use it here).   — Jeff G. ツ 10:25, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149290 Petrb (talk) 19:58, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

A further step has been taken on Commons, when the icons became changed, so the four different levels now have different icons, please see discussion on Commons Dan Koehl (talk) 13:14, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Huggle on svwiki

Meanwhile on svwiki, other users has told me on my svwiki talk page that they are not happy with how Huggle interact with their manual updates of user pages with warning signs, after they get blocked etc. A somewhat difficault problem to illustrate, maybe you can see the discussion through some kind of translation. I may in short time be able to relate to those problems better, so far I didnt use Huggle during the last day, before I get confirmed, that the other users do not view my Huggling, as abuse of the svwiki. Initially, I have tried to modify warning 1, but have not made further. Its a bit strange this issue comes up now, after Huggle has ben used on svwiki since over 8 years? Dan Koehl (talk) 13:21, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

The file I so far have tried to correct and make functional on svwiki, is located https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall:Huggle/test-1. I will wait with the other three, until it is identified what kind of problem that affects the warned users pages. Dan Koehl (talk) 14:00, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, can you describe what exactly is happening that is wrong? Petrb (talk) 14:10, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

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Happy new year

	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2019!
	Hi Petrb, Sending you a warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019 and may this new year bring you joy and laughter. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Thank you, happy new year and jolly xmass to you as well! Petrb (talk) 21:28, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

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Hello Petrb, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019. Happy editing, ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 08:17, 25 December 2018 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Thanks, to you as well buddy! Petrb (talk) 21:26, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

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Petrb,
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Merry Christmas Petrb!

Happy New Year Petr! Thank you again for all your work on Huggle! --Framawiki (please notify) (talk) 17:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you too! Petrb (talk) 21:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Cats

how many cats do you have? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

All of them. Petrb (talk) 09:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Comment left on Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback

Hi Petrb! I hope life is treating you well! A recent response left on Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback appears to have come from you, but you were logged out when you added it. I went ahead and redacted and suppressed the IP information for you. If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to reach out to me and I'll be happy to help. Just wanted to leave you a message and let you know. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:49, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Oshwah, Maybe it was one of his cats editing! :-P Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:51, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh yes, that was me, I noticed that I forgot to login, but I don't really mind that much to have my IP exposed, so I didn't fix it... thanks ;) Petrb (talk) 20:38, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

WM-Bot

Hey Peter, big fan :) So, a couple of years ago, I added WM-Bot to #cvn-wp-fa (and it helped our patrollers big time). back then, I was using my old wiki username (and thus, my old cloak). I changed my username and my cloak and forgot about the problems that it might cause in IRC. Now, I can't use the bot since it's registered to my old cloak as admin. Is there any way this can be resolved? --Arian (talk) 08:17, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, yes, just tell me what your old cloak was and what your new cloak is and I can replace it ;) Petrb (talk) 14:01, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

my old nick and cloak was «Arian_Ar@wikimedia/Arian-Ar», i now use «Arian_Ar@wikimedia/Arian». Thanks! --Arian (talk) 06:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

OK, it's fixed. Petrb (talk) 10:43, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

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Beta cluster

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Issue with Huggle

Resolved

I asked someone else and they referred me to you. I followed all of the instructions and I have the password and username set however I keep getting the "login failed (on ewiki): Incorrect username or password entered. Please try again." Would you be able to assist me in getting this going please? I cannot even use it on the test wiki. Thanks! --Galendalia (talk) 01:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Galendalia, Are you using legacy login or a bot password? What version of Huggle are you using, and what operating system are you using? --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 02:29, 27 April 2020 (UTC) (talk page watcher)

Hi @AntiCompositeNumber: thanks for getting back to me. I am using the bot password (created it twice and deleted the first (following the instructions); Windows 10; Huggle 3 (I believe the latest as I just downloaded it); I followed all the instructions to including on the username. --Galendalia (talk) 02:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, it's hard to say, if you indeed enter the correct name (Galendalia@Huggle) and right password (very long autogenerated hash) and you did check all permissions as described at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Huggle/Bot_passwords it would have to be some bug in MediaWiki itself. My guess is that you either insert wrong username, password or you didn't check all permissions needed by Huggle. Petrb (talk) 07:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

@Petrb: I guess if I spelled my username correctly it would work. LOL! All of the permissions were correct. Thanks for your help!

--Galendalia (talk) 00:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

"It looks like you were logged out of MediaWiki for some reason"

Hi, I thought I'd reach out to you directly (my earlier issue was resolved).

Whenever I log into Huggle, I always constantly get a popup titled "Please enter your password" and it also says "It looks like you were logged out of MediaWiki for some reason." I enter my password to relog but the popup always reappears; it is 100% a bug. I've tried everything - restarting, uninstalling/reinstalling, using a different version, etc, but to no avail. Could you please help me out? I really don't want to stop my use of Huggle over this glitch. Hummerrocket (talk) 00:13, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this information about you being logged out doesn't come from Huggle, but from MediaWiki, and MW doesn't share anything about the reason why you were logged out - that's why Huggle says "for some reason" - it has no idea why it happened, only MediaWiki knows that. Only thing we can do here is to run a query dump to gather RAW traffic exchanged between Huggle and MediaWiki, you can do that by passing parameter --qd to Huggle, a file called querydump.dat will be created in a working directory of Huggle that contains dump of traffic, based on this dump it may be possible to investigate what's going on, or eventually raise a bug on phabricator against MediaWiki. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Huggle/Debugging Petrb (talk) 08:28, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Just following up, could you provide more context on how to pass the parameter --qd to Huggle? What is the command to run Huggle from the command line? Is it huggle --qd? I can't find this information anywhere in the documentation. I tried using Huggle yesterday and it worked fine, but this morning I have the same infinite loop. Hummerrocket (talk) 15:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I totally agree this should be better documented, in 2016 I created a phab task to improve this https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150056 and in 4 years nobody had time to do it :( in Windows starting a program with custom paramters is a bit more complicated than UNIX platforms, most simple way is to create or copy a shortcut to the program (eg. copy what you have in start menu somewhere) then edit shortcut and change the path - wrap whole path to .exe in quotes and then after the quotes add space and --qd (also -v could help). If this works for you, maybe you can even create screenshots of whole process and help other users in the future who have this question. Or you can just add it here: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Huggle/Debugging Petrb (talk) 11:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

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Huggle & Mac Shortcut

Hi Petr, do you know the standard Keyboard Shortcut(s) on a MAC for reverting the diff via "Removal of content - unexplained deletion" ? Or if there are none how can I add one for this action!? Thanks in advance, CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, you can do that in preferences -> shortcut, but before you open preferences, click the drop down menu and check what number is this one, each revert item has some number. Then in preferences assign a shortcut for revert and warn for that number. Petrb (talk) 07:40, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Huggle tags

Do you thinks these tags are useful to add to Huggle?
possible vandalism (lowercase "p" is a different tag not currently included)
possible conflict of interest
RedWarn (make it -2000)
SWViewer [1.4] (make it -2000)
reverting anti-vandal bot
shouting aeschylus (talk) 21:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I guess. But my global edit rights expired, so I can't edit protected pages right now. Petrb (talk) 11:27, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb, who should I ask then? I can't directly edit the page. aeschylus (talk) 16:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I requested edit rights again so let's see, but it will probably take a week or two for them to be granted. Petrb (talk) 08:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Petrb, could you please add the AWB tag as a -2000 and the tag Non-autoconfirmed user rapidly reverting edits? Those tags could also help. aeschylus (talk) 18:59, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

@Aeschylus: Done Petrb (talk) 15:10, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

"Sound debug menu", or: I can't figure out the deal with Huggle

I am trying to write a (fairly minor, in the scheme of things) script for Huggle, which plays sounds when certain things happen (a revert is made, a notification is received, et cetera). I notice that in the scripting guide, it mentions that you can use "huggle.play_file()" to play a sound. However, when I put this in my script, nothing happens. I tried to look up the definition of that function in the Huggle repository, which sent me on a bizarre wild goose chase. I also noticed that there's an item in the preferences to play a sound when a new revision comes in... which seems to be unimplemented? I couldn't find anything being called from that in the source code, either (and of course, it plays no sound when I have it enabled; I'm using Huggle on Snap, on Fedora 32). The closest thing I found to a clue was that you made a commit several months ago to implement a sound debug menu... do you know anything about sound in Huggle? jp×g 03:44, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, yes the debug sound menu, which you can access when you start huggle with verbosity > 0 (pass argument -v) allows you to test if sounds actually work. The problem is that correct cross-platform sound implementation is a bit tricky and may not always work on all platforms and this debug menu can help you determine if sound is actually working in your installation. If it doesn't make any sound, then it doesn't work and that explains why you script does nothing. The problem is - when sound subsystem doesn't work, even Huggle doesn't know it's not working :) so that's why there is this debug menu. Regarding the source code: JS function play_file is callback to this C++ function https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/blob/master/src/huggle_core/scripting/hugglejs.cpp#L265 which calls this function https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx/blob/master/src/huggle_core/resources.cpp#L121 which plays sound using QMediaPlayer. But yes there is definitely a room for improvement, I can see that these ifdefs under certain circumstances lead to NOOP code, which should at least emit some warning, so that whoever makes the script is aware of this. Also keep in mind that only PlayEmbeddedSoundFile is exposed by default, if you want to play external file, you need to allow execution of "unsafe scripts" (there is option in Huggle preferences for it), when you enable this option, all scripts will be exposed to many new functions under huggle_unsafe class name that allow manipulation of filesystem, playing external sound files etc. Petrb (talk) 14:24, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

I see you already want to use play_file, so in that case make sure that you have unsafe execution enabled. Petrb (talk) 14:27, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Huggle: Question (speedy deletes)

Hello, yesterday I set an speedy delete via Huggle and probably ticked "Notify page creator". The block then apparently ended up with another user, who seems very piqued about it. Since all the explanations as to how this could happen are so far only speculation, the question: How could this happen/Where did I fail? Is it possible at all with such a notification module to choose who the notification should go to within the scope of an speedy delete-Request via Huggle? Regards--Quintil Jan Verus (talk) 18:59, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, can you give me some more clues - which page was being speedy deleted? Which user did the notification come to? Who was the actual creator? Thanks Petrb (talk) 08:04, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, of course. "Christopher J Silva" was the speedy deleted page (See Log). The page was created by "Chrisxx247" (See Log). The page was created by the User 2 times and has been 2 times speedy deleted; i was involved in the second request on 2nd October only, when the notification came to the User "Mme Mimimi" (as linked above), who had edited the deleted page 2 or three time a short time before i put my speedy delete + notification via huggle. Thanks--Quintil Jan Verus (talk) 10:58, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Quintil I am sorry for late responses, yes, this is definitely a bug in Huggle, in speedyform.cpp on line 200 we are messaging user who created edit on which the whole flow was based on, instead of actual creator of the page. I think this bug went unnoticed for long time because in most cases of speedy deletion only edits to page that is about to get deleted are done by its creator. Petrb (talk) 09:10, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293336 Petrb (talk) 09:17, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!!Quintil Jan Verus (talk) 14:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

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