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RE: Article Resubmission

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RE: Article Resubmission

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Image license question

At File:Tatratea Logo.jpg, you wrote that the file is has a free license (creative-commons), and that "The license statement can be found online at: www.karloff.sk". I was unable to find it there. Could you provide a more specific link or instructions how to navigate through their website to find it? DMacks (talk) 00:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi DMacks, many thanks for highlighting this issue.

Actually the file was given to me by its owner (the company itself) because I had some difficulties to find the exact logo.

I asked them by email if they could provide me a picture of their own logo because I wanted to create a wikipedia article based on their product portfolio (I discovered it during the SIAL Exhibition in Paris) and they have kindly accepted my request.

Following this statement, I did not know what to tick in the subcategory license and I saw they had the copyright logo at the bottom of their webpage, so I thought it matched with what was expected by Wikipedia.

Was I right thinking that their approval was enough to use their logo in my article ? Many thanks for all your help in this matter.

Tatratea (talk)

Checking with the company is a great idea! Not many people think to simply ask a company or other article-subject for an image and permission to use it.

There are two separate issues: whether the image is usable in the article (which may or may not depend on the license) and what the license of it is (whether it's "free" or not). Licensing policy can be kind of confusing, so here is a bunch of information that at least resolves the main concern of yours and explains what (if any) additional information you might be able to provide to help clarify other details.

If the image has a free license, it can be used pretty much any way you like. But even if it's non-free, wikipedia still allows its use in very limited situations, one of which is a brand-logo in the infobox of an article specifically about that brand. That sort of use of a non-free image does not require any permission from the owner (it's a wikipedia policy that uses an explicit legal exception). So either way, the image is usable in this article.

The only concern is how to classify the license of the image itself. For copyright, the owner controls the use and permissions, so "all rights reserved" means you can do pretty much nothing (and that is the default even if they don't say it), "okay to use this on WP" means exactly that and no more, "Creative commons" is a specific copyright/license that entails a fairly broad range of allowable uses well beyond what a normal copyright would permit. It is one of several "free" licenses that allow reuse, editing, and even commercial redistribution by anyone anywhere. So unless they said "this image is creative-commons license" or "this image is from our website" (and the website explicitly says creative-commons) or comparable terms, it's not CC. I didn't see that on the website, so I was stuck making the safe assumption (to avoid breaking licensing laws) that it was not CC. On the other hand, if the company says "you may use this image on our Wikipedia article", it's definitely not free, because they didn't include all the permissions that are part of the "free" definition. DMacks (talk) 06:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi DMacks,

Apologies for such a late reply, I did not have so much time to check wikipedia these last days. Just to say you that I changed the logo after having received an email from the Marketing Department of tatratea saying the previous logo was just a visual effect but not the corporate one.

They still agree to broadcast the new one on Wikipedia even if I know (following your last message) that when the image is a brand-logo the owner's permission is not necessary.

I also followed your remarks and improved the classification of the logo by ticking non-free image. I just want to take this opportunity to thank you for all your time.

Cheers !

Ice Hockey (talk)

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Orphaned non-free media (File:Tatratea Logo.jpg)

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Nomination of Tatratea for deletion

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Orphaned non-free image File:Corporate Tatratea Logo .jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Corporate Tatratea Logo .jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:03, 13 June 2018 (UTC)