PythonSwarm

Blocked indefinitely

I have blocked you indefinitely per the on-going concerns expressed at the noticeboard. Since the topic started, you have disrupted DYK, edited policies, made unnecessary RFCs, created policy proposals, and have now moved on to reporting established users to AIV for accidentally including a stray tag in their posts. You do not have the competency required to edit here. Consider taking time off (and I'm talking many months to a year at minimum, not weeks or a few months) to study Wikipedia and to mature. As always, blocks can be appealed using {{unblock|your reason here}}. Because there has been strong consensus for your block at WP:AN, an unblock request appeal would likely need to go through there, so you'd need to submit your statement here for someone to paste over (again, this is down the road; any unblock appeal now will be closed easily against you right now). only (talk) 10:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@Only: Perhaps I appeal after 3 months?-- PythonSwarm ^{T | C | G} 12:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Please don't. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:46, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

• permalink to AN discussion. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:43, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@Only: Please delete my user page. thanks -- PythonSwarm ^{T | C | G} 08:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I have deleted your user page, as requested. It now shows your Meta user page, which I can't do anything about. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:02, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Removal of IPBE

Further to my earlier messages to you, and my note on the recent discussion that has led to your block, I have removed IP block exemption. This is directly related to your block. It is possible that, when the time is appropriate (a minimum of six months from now, see Wikipedia:Standard offer), you may be unable to make a block appeal without IPBE. If that is the case, you may request it in the usual way, specifying the reason that you want IPBE returned is to appeal your block. Risker (talk) 14:28, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

No need of IPBE. I am abandoning this account. I may come back in one or a few months for a clean start, but this will be just after my unblock. -- PythonSwarm ^{T | C | G} 08:32, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Please see WP:CLEANSTART: A clean start is not permitted if there are active bans, blocks or sanctions [...] in place against the old account. Be aware that you will still need to successfully appeal your community sanction first. Just clarifying as I saw the banner at the top of your page. All the best! ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:49, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Just to underline this for you, PythonSwarm, you are not allowed to edit Wikipedia without getting unblocked here, first. If you create another account, you'll make the same mistakes, you'll get caught, and then everything you did will be reverted. Don't look at this situation as just bad luck or a series of mistakes. You're not competent to edit here. There other wikis out there and maybe you should try those. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:35, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

A few words

PythonSwarm, I can understand you're probably feeling very disappointed at the moment. I'm sorry the way things have turned out, and I'd like to offer some advice if I may. I love it when we get young people contributing here, and then staying and helping build the encyclopedia possibly even for decades. I hope you do want to come back, but please pay attention to what others are saying above. The only permitted way for you to return to editing is by getting unblocked on this account, as clean starts and new accounts are forbidden for blocked editors.

Let me first explain what I think is the problem. It might seem obvious now, like those specific issues raised in that discussion, but the main problem is more fundamental. You see, "behind the scenes" work, like New Page Patrol, Good Article review, DYK, etc, require maturity, experience and knowledge - which you simply do not possess yet (and will not for some considerable time). You need significant mature experience of the English language as a starter. And then you need significant experience of developing article content for Wikipedia. Good article review, for example, can not be done successfully just from reading some rules and applying them. You need experience of research, writing, citing, summarizing, proof-reading, copy-editing, etc first. Just a few hundred edits here is nowhere near sufficient experience. I'm almost certainly a lot older than you, I've made around 90,000 edits or so here, I've been an admin for quite a few years, and my real life job involves writing, editing and publishing - yet I don't feel I have sufficient knowledge and experience to do a good job of GA review. To do things like that, you need to have spent at least a few years doing a serious amount of actual article work first. It's similar for "policing" work like vandalism reporting - you need knowledge through experience first.

So, if and when you decide to make an appeal, I think what you need to do is promise to do only content work. Things like finding stub articles that you can expand, reviewing articles tagged for needing better sources and go search for those sources. Check through the list of requested articles and see if there are any that you think you could write. And completely forget thoughts like "How many edits before I can do GA review?" and things like that. Maybe set yourself a target of developing an article and taking it as far as Good Article status, get a feel for what it's like from the writer's view. Does any of that sound attractive to you? If so, spend a few months away, think about how you can work on content (and not policing, supervison, management, or anything like that). If you approach the Wikipedia community from that kind of angle, I think you'd have a good chance of being unblocked and welcomed back. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:14, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Socking is just stupid

What a stupid, stupid thing you have done by creating a sockpuppet account. Above, you had an olive branch being held out to you, telling you what might need to do to get unblocked. Instead, within a week of being blocked you've done the one thing most likely to make sure that you are never allowed back to editing Wikipedia again. If you have any ambition to edit Wikipedia again then do not repeat what you have done this week. Stay away for at least six months then come back to this account (no other) to request an unblock. There is no guarantee that you will be unblocked but what I am certain of is that every time you try sneaking back by using a sockpuppet account, the chances of unblocking get smaller and smaller until they become zero. Nthep (talk) 13:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

UTRS 46686

UTRS appeal #46686 is now open. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:41, 12 August 2021 (UTC)