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Proposed deletion of All Comers Track Meets

Hey Boss, why did you change the information Dave Grohl and high school? You don't know what you are talking about, ok? I went to high school with him and used to drive him home after school. Can you say the same? He attend Ireton as a freshmen -- I have the yearbook here in front of me to prove it. The wikipedia article is now wrong thanks to you. I'm tired of changing it.

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AfD nomination of All Comers Track Meets

I have nominated All Comers Track Meets, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All Comers Track Meets. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Drmies (talk) 05:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Mike Powell (athlete)

I agree that BLP tagging is too much when the material is far from controversial. However, you should be aware that it isn't a bot tagging it, but merely converting the tag (see here where the original was added). Fancy joining up with the Athletics WikiProject? See the end of my Signature for more info. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU!} 19:31, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

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December 2009

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Track and field athletics‎. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Thank you. Link also removed from Mondo. That page is intended only for internal links to WP articles. Hertz1888 (talk) 03:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup

I noticed you or your bot redirected categorization of an article I initiated. It moved Lloyd (Bud) Winter from "Category:Track and field athletics coaches" to "Category:American track and field coaches" which was, I guess, appropriate since the previous category only has other categories now (someone has altered it, perhaps your bot). The problem is, now in its new category, Winter is now not listed alphabetically by his last name W, but by his first L. Since this is an automatically generated page, there is no way to correct it. It appears to be the only such case on the page, but should be corrected by someone with that power, perhaps by you since you caused the change to that category in the first place. Trackinfo (talk) 02:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I added a DEFAULTSORT to cassify with Winter. I hope is okay now --Sisyph (talk) 21:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

World record videos

The simplest and most straight forward idea would be to add an extra column on the record list (after "ref") and use a [bare] external link. A video icon might be nice, but then again it stops being so obvious that the link connects to something outside of wikipedia. Clearly, we won't ever have Wikipedia-friendly videos for this topic!

There seems to be a general dislike of external links mid-list, but I believe these types of video links would make a valuable exception. Indeed, without pictures or videos this is quite a dull, unattractive statistical list. I must say, however, that you should be keen to avoid linking to content of dubious legality. Some good links can be found at the IAAF website as well as their ever-improving and accessible Spikes Magazine. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Join WikiProject Athletics!} 15:25, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, just looking on your talk page you seem to have been knocked about quite a bit regarding various Wiki rules. I'm glad you've decided to keep editing (you've done a good job on United States Olympic Trials (track and field); an article I pointed out as missing!). In reference to your above "promotional" reprimand – I was also looking to create an article on Mondo at some point. The best defence tends to be good referencing.

If you do wish to make an article for Mondo (perhaps better named as Mondo (flooring)?) then you must choose your sources wisely – many editors are highly suspicious at even a whiff of a promotional tone, and rightly so. Look for articles in generally trustworthy and non-promotional publications. With Mondo, there are articles about their tracks from Slate, European Athletics, The Review and Speedendurance. A short article focused on their involvement with the Olympics (and track and field in general) is far more likely to stick than one which focuses on the qualities of their track surfaces.

Some editors are very keen to delete articles which are a bit unfocused and messy – even though Wikipedia:Articles for deletion claims that topics must be judged on notability alone, it has been proven time and time again that diligent referencing, solid writing and a neutral tone can make a largely unimportant article subject to less scrutiny than altogether more important subjects! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)^{Join WikiProject Athletics!} 16:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Regarding your additions of YouTube links, please see WP:EL, more specifically WP:ELNEVER and WP:YOUTUBE. Many of your links do not seem to meet the guideline. Prolog (talk) 15:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ken Dabrow

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You just earned a timeout.

That rant on my userpage was totally unacceptable; you are therefore blocked for the next 48 hours for incivility. if you ever come onto my talk page or that of any other user with that big a chip on your shoulder, I promise the next block will be longer. Nothing here is ever lost and I do not cave to threats.

As for the article, no, it does not automatically meet notability standards and makes no effort to establish notability. I will, however, create a user subpage with the original content. That way, you can work on it at your leisure when your block lifts.

Next time, try acting with some civility. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 06:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

You should know that I do not respond well to threats and I'm not about to quit over something I can reverse with a couple of keystrokes. If you have a dispute with me, ask nicely and we'll work it out. I had slapped a 48-hour block on you for incivility, but that would truly have been a misuse of my administrative position. Simply put, I blew my stack when I saw your message. As a result, I have therefore unblocked you and restored the article, but please do not hurl any more abuse at me or any other user. You should also know that I recognized the name "Ken Dabrow" and I voted to keep the article. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 06:49, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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What "ramifications?" Nothing here is ever lost. Mistakes can be made and thankfully can be reversed. Lots of new users ask why I deleted an article and I always respond in kind. Since I do a lot of new page patrolling, it's only natural that my talk page would have a history of inquiries into deletions. If I delete an article in error, I admit the mistake, restore the content and move on. That's what I did with your article and would have done so cheerfully had you not started in with demanding my head. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 18:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Stop

Trackinfo, you need to stop. I have been watching the situation since you started the AN/I thread about User:PMDrive1061's deletion of the Cornerstone Christian School article and brief blocking of you. While in my opinion, your decision to start a rant on AN/I was a brash one, statements like this are really going across the line into personal attack territory. PMDrive1061 is a widely-respected editor that is held in high regard by the community in general, and your continued attacks are looking more and more like harassment. If you don't drop this issue I will reinstate your block, as your behavior is becoming more and more disruptive. You may consider this your only warning. Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 19:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, please do. I let this drop last night and you're still on my case today even after I've corrected my error. Yes, I do act unilaterally, but so do all administrators. My unilateral acts, however, fall within this site's guidelines. Blocking you was in fact a breach of procedure, but I both unblocked you and restored the article after my temper subsided. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• • Thank you for your offer at the noticeboard, but I believe I understand your position and I sympathize with it. I've had several articles of my own either speedy deleted or run through Articles for Deletion and no, it isn't any fun and I once lashed out in much the same way you did. I'm glad we were able to resolve this and I'd like to consider this matter closed. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:31, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of John Whittemore

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Thank you for your wonderful and creative suggestions!

I need help knowing where this oppose goes, I moved your oppose to talk: User_talk:Ikip/Discussion_about_creation_of_possible_Wikiproject:New_Users_and_BLPs#Oppose Please let me know where this comment goes, or move it there also.

I also moved your section up higher: Discussion_about_creation_of_possible_Wikiproject:New_Users_and_BLPs#Triage It is similar to the proposal in that section. this means more people will see it also Thanks again for your valuable opinion Ikip 16:25, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earl Owens

fyi.--Milowent (talk) 17:50, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Biographies of Living persons solution?: Projectification

As someone who commented on the BLP workshop I created, please review this proposal to see if it is something that the community would support.

Harsh constructive criticism is very welcome!

Better to figure out the potential objections now. I am looking to remedy any potential objections by the community.

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WP:NPA

Perhaps you would like to give it a reread? Such an edit is not appropriate. NW (Talk) 00:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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Please explain in Colbert article Talk

Where, explicitly there is a citation giving the information that Colbert's tenure as host has ended. We know it is so, it simply has to be sourced. I also ask that the since the sentence regarding his hosting was made past tense, it also contain the dates he hosted: "was host from x to y", because to a casual, interested reader, the past tense begs the question "when". I am a fellow editor entitled to AGF, and would ask the tags not be removed before the issue is addressed (either in Talk, if I am missing the citation in the main body, or until the citation and date range is added to the text. Thank you. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:16, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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See my comment following yours for a couple of housekeeping comments, especially regarding the way to get a user's block log. I don't know the guy or have an impression of him, so I'm not participating in the discussion itself. Nyttend (talk) 02:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Could you read the warning of Drmies again? You know, that warning placed on 20 October 2014 telling you to stop harassing me. The Banner talk 12:03, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of List of bus routes in Kolkata for deletion

Thanks for clearing my confusion actually i thought that List of bus routes in Kolkata is redirected to List of bus lines in Kolkata.So i am agreed with you on deletion of List of bus routes in Kolkata as you wish.I Abhishek talk — Preceding undated comment added 08:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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• I'm going to remove Banner's rather loud warning and replace it with a non-templated one: will you please leave out the personal attacks? Thank you. Drmies (talk) 22:06, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Recent ANI discussion

Hi Trackinfo. I just wanted to drop by after my recent comment on Drimes talk page. I definitely agree with you that there are wider behavior problems, but I'm hoping we can just take small bites at a time right now to keep things very pointed in the process at ANI. Otherwise, I fear we'd risk derailing the discussion when new/old drama gets kicked up. I think you definitely got the point across that there's plenty of past history elsewhere, so thanks for doing that. Kingofaces43 (talk) 05:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

I have a lot of confidence ROPE will see justice work here. My primary concern is the utter lack of interest on the part of the administrators. This ANI is about to fall off the main board and onto the archives, destined to be forgotten as so many are. Just letting it slide does not work here. ROPE only works is somebody is paying attention to his activities, particularly if they give him a standard to achieve or violate. Trackinfo (talk) 06:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps, but WP:ROPE can also go your way. The Banner talk 08:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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Combine progressions

What do you think of this (incomplete at the moment): Masters_women_high_jump_world_record_progression It would make things easier to maintain, more information on one page, only one link per discipline. Weia (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

It might be easier to maintain. When I built the original pages per age group, it was easier for both me and I think the reader to stay with focused information. You are not the first to make such a suggestion, others with far less knowledge about the sport pushed the same thing. I argued against it, feeling it diminishes each age group achievement when lumped together onto a multiple page as you have constructed. But hey, I'm just one person, one vote. We go with the flow here. If you think it makes the presentation better, go ahead. Make it better. I also avoided red linked people unless I had plans and information to write an article about them. I think I have found most former Olympians and open world class people, but I don't know the rest of the players, particularly your expertise with European athletes. If you have the information about them and can write articles, or provide me information, we can always make it better by telling more of the story. By the way, one athlete I suspect you might know some information about, Weia Reinboud, might be a good place to start. Maybe it wouldn't be appropriate for you to write about her, but I can if I had "sources" to work with, I can. Point me in the right direction. Trackinfo (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

For a reader it is nice to see the same masters athlete in several age classes. For maintaining: I made several mistakes in updating the main page with too much or two few cells, throwing away the progression link and several other mistakes like the number of row spans. I suggest I complete the high jump page, you do some fine tunings and then we decide. OK? Weia (talk) 10:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Have a look: Masters women high jump world record progression So easy now to look for additions in lists on paper! Weia (talk) 10:59, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I've added a lot. Do you see some fine tunings maybe? I would prefer to continue on this way. And you? Weia (talk) 22:29, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Please be clear: continu on this road or not? Weia (talk) 20:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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Number 2 done: Masters men high jump world record progression I'll ask my new Italian contact for additions. In fact the pages per age group can be removed, because they are not updated. But how to throw them away? Weia (talk) 23:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

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Do you have any comments on Inquiry 2, Inquiry 3 or Inquiry 4 at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Talk:General Motors streetcar conspiracy discussion? Even a "nothing to add" comment would be appreciated. DRN volunteer --Bejnar (talk) 19:55, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your extensive comment at Inquiry 2, but I do urge you to stick to the specifics of each inquiry. We will get to other issues as required, but often the application of Wikipedia policies and guidelines will help curtail excesses, which when curtailed can lead to a less POV article. Focusing on specifics instead of upon a general point-of-view can often result in a solution. See Inquiry 4. -- DRN volunteer Bejnar (talk) 22:10, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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Trackinfo, I really appreciate your interest in the General Motors Streetcar Conspiracy article and support with the related DRN discussion. However, can I urge you to adapt your response to negative personal comments directed at you on the DRN board. For sure, do respond, but I suggest you take the same approach as I am doing now by simply responding along these lines: 'We are here to discuss the subject, not individual contributors or the contributions. Please remove the above reference to myself and refrain from making similar statements in future." What does not help is when we 'take the bait' and respond to the personal allegations made, which actually puts us in breach of the rules as well and probably encourages further similar comments. Does that make sense? PeterEastern (talk) 20:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

You are right, I took the bait. When he starts to mention libel, legal issues arise. But I'll try to refrain. Trackinfo (talk) 20:30, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I understand. And good bait is only good because it is tempting;) PeterEastern (talk) 20:33, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

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Just FYI, check out Template:Done#See_also. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:20, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I don't know all the fancy tricks, templates and the like; and frankly, I don't apply a lot of effort to learn them. Trackinfo (talk) 00:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for the article on L.D. Weldon. Didn't expect to see it here. I watched Jenner train at Graceland in late 1971 & early 1972.

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Thanks for adding Kathy's two pending records W75. I also have two ones W65, added them on the progression page but not in the record list. I also have a pending world record heptathlon W65, achieved at the "stendaler hanse cup" 30-31 may. Weia (talk) 09:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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I wondered whether somebody would notice the red link in {{Qualifying standards in athletics}}. That was fast! Thanks for creating the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:49, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

You dropped the template onto a page I was watching. I had the document open to refer to in writing 2015 USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships. Trackinfo (talk) 05:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

high

I hesitate to add myself, with another WR height. Here the code:

|- style="background:#cef6f5;" | 1.42 | Weia Reinboud | Netherlands | 11.03.50 | 65 | 21.06.15 | Den Helder Netherlands | | [http://www.atletiek.nu/wedstrijd/uitslagen/302/9001/#losonderdeel_13_ |
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By the way: long jump in my hep W65 is 3.68. Weia (talk) 11:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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2003 USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships

This meet came before my interest in the sport, but after several hours work, just wow: talk about a national disgrace. It took me quite a long time to collate all the ins and outs of who-should-have-finish-where. How depressing! SFB 22:35, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for all your hard work on all those USA Outdoor Championships. All part of that huge backlog. We've got the History of the Olympic Trials, my favorite source, to someday translate into wiki. I just found the NCAA historical results like here which contain lots of history. I'm looking to see what OCR might be able to do for that mess. Since USATF has dropped the ball, for historical USA Outdoor (and indoor results--I don't work too hard on indoors usually) we will probably have to go into old newspaper agate. But there are some great stories to be told in there. Trackinfo (talk) 00:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Great find. The Olympic Trials book certainly is a fine piece of work. It's something to aspire to. Good statistical analysis like that always inspires me to write more – the Ibero-American Championships in Athletics had a similarly good treatment. That said, the bonus with newspaper coverage though is that you get a better feel of expectations, the concerns of the time, and what the big stories were – things that can be easily lost with plain statistics.

I've always focused on international competitions, but I think that coverage is pretty good now so some of our most glaring gaps come at national and NCAA level. Seeing the French Wikipedia editors get ahead of us on the USA champs was certainly an incentive to some friendly competition I've had an ongoing aim to get full coverage of major events of this century, so I'll probably pause at the 2000 USA Championships. The Olympic record lists like the one I did for the 100 m are still on my mental to-do list! SFB 22:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for your recent edit on Carl Lewis, which I'm trying to get passed to WP:GA. {{template:T&Fcalc2}} seems broken. It resolves {{T&Fcalc2|28}} to 28 ft 0 in (8.53 m). I'm not precious about the system used but it does need to work, of course. Please could you fix it - either the template or the article? Many thanks FunkyCanute (talk) 10:40, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

@Sillyfolkboy: This was the work of SFB. I have seen a few complaints about the precision but I'm so appreciative of his hard work to get these templates to exist that I'm reluctant to complain. 1 1/4" is a huge error. Yes I'd like this to be perfect. Apparently there are even errors in the little gold book, so maybe the formula is not yet perfected. Trackinfo (talk) 10:52, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

I saw this on my wathclist. Pings must be signed in the same edit so [2] doesn't work. The second parameter in {{T&Fcalc2}} is currently mandatory and is set to 1.34 if it's omitted, probably for test purposes. {{T&Fcalc2|28|0}}} gives 28 ft 0 in (8.53 m). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:46, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Great! Thanks. FunkyCanute (talk) 08:56, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter and FunkyCanute: That figure was indeed for test purposes. I've removed it now so omitting inches means zero inches (logical!). The discrepancy with the little gold book is frustrating. Some have proved to have been rounded up instead of down, so I'm tempted to allow the discrepancy in those cases. That said, I think there is a difference in with display of longer distances where American standard, namely the distances are reduced to whole inches (search "hammer throw" for result conversions here). I think the template I made still does fractions at that point. Potentially some code tweaks could improve this further, but I'm unsure of what a reasonable cut-off for showing fractions would be. SFB 21:01, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

@Sillyfolkboy: The cut off would be about 76 feet, or a reasonable distance beyond the current world record in the shot put barring a Beamonesque improvement. That is the longest distance to use fractions of an inch and would be well below any discus mark we would bother to report here (Masters or youth results possibly excepted). Trackinfo (talk) 21:22, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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That was exactly the point. Make positive contributions. Leaving complaining tags about an article being incomplete, two minutes after the article was started is unreasonable and unhelpful. Its actually an interruption, a block on the subsequent edit. In my comment I gave two very specific changes to this behavior that can be taken. 1) If you see a problem, fix it rather than complain about it. 2) Give new articles time to mature. 2 minutes is not reasonable. An editor on new article patrol (my assumption) should know better. Trackinfo (talk) 10:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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We've had this conversation before. I see your edits chasing down one rogue, blocked editor or another all the time. Actually many edits seem to be valid content, appropriate wikiinks mostly. I don't stick my nose into it too often but this is a poorly read article so if I don't do it nobody will. My consideration is not the source of the edit or editor, it is simply a good link to add to describe what happens in the movie. Trackinfo (talk) 02:00, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Schedule

Hey, yeah i was surprised to see it not in place. Will start a discussion if i am reverted. Kante4 (talk) 20:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

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LHSAA districts

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Perhaps the article Louisiana High School Athletic Association could be expanded to include mention of these districts, or possibly the 5A Division may have attracted enough independent comment to be notable in Wikipedia's sense, but these individual districts do not need stand-alone articles. JohnCD (talk) 16:10, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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List of Louisiana high school athletic districts

Thanks for creating the List of Louisiana high school athletic districts list. I'm still advocating for individual league (District) information. I'm writing an essay at User:Trackinfo/sandbox/NHSL but obviously there will be opposition. It will be a fight. This is a place to take a stand and use as an example. One league I started still survives, because I have overwhelmed it with sourcing. You can see the progress. I think you can take most of them public at any time. I intend to do the same with:

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Your help is welcome since you probably know a lot more about the local subject than I do. Looking at my articles side by side, it looks like the situation has changed since the sources I found. I've never set foot in Louisiana. Trackinfo (talk) 10:37, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Trackinfo, I appreciate you reaching out to me regarding Louisiana athletic districts and advocating for their inclusion. Based on how much Louisiana high school athletics plays a role in national athletics they should be included. The problem is a lack coverage compared to other states with more media outlets and writers. Plus states that have more wikipedia contributors make it easier to include information about that state. Compared to other states, I feel there are less contributors in Louisiana. It is exhausting to devote the time needed to accumulate enough references for others to deem Louisiana articles worthy. I'm glad to help User:Trackinfo/sandbox/NHSL and very appreciative that someone not from the state is willing to help. User:spatms (talk) 2:17, 07 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for doing the page on my father. If you want to add any thing to it I would be happy to give you any info or pictures to support. One thing that might interest you is that his Junior year in HS his father had taken a job in California and while there he won the California 120yd HH Championship in class AA. So he was a two time, two state, HH champion. He was named TAC/USTFF Male athlete of the year 7 times and 3 times performance of the year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rileymg (talk • contribs) 23:16, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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I don't know whether you meant to, but some content that you added came from this source. Fortunately, I have to re-edit it, but be careful next time when you use sources. --George Ho (talk) 09:13, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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I'm sorry for reverting your edits on the page as I just did it by accident. I've already self-reverted it. Thanks. Israel's Son 09:15, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

I already noticed and didn't complain. I would have. Trackinfo (talk) 09:17, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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This claim had been tagged as uncited since April 2009 (in an article tagged as an advert). Per WP:UNSOURCED, "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." I saw long-time unsourced material and removed it. I'm glad you could find a source for the material and restore it. Your snarky edit summary was entirely unwarranted. As one of the maybe five female editors left on Wikipedia, I implore you to trade snark for civility before no one is left around here who is willing to edit at all. Safehaven86 (talk) 07:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

You have made a considerable effort to look at the Patagonia related articles. That had to take some time. It took me 5 seconds to find that source. It took you longer to make the edits to remove that content. If you (one small person) are going to make such a removal of content from the database the entire world can access, try to do it with a little knowledge to back you. In this specific case, that claim had been posted for about 6 years. No other editor chose to remove it in that time. Also no other editor chose to include a source. You could have looked before you leaped. Now that I have pointed you to the sources, you are diligently reading them and correcting the articles. That is what the process of editing is all about. My suggestion, perhaps made sarcastically in the edit notes, is to spend a few seconds to inform yourself BEFORE you do damage to the existing content. Trackinfo (talk) 08:12, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

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What's with you editing my Wiki page with the comment you posted then removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.188.8.111 (talk) 02:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I did no such thing. Check the contributions log. Trackinfo (talk) 20:06, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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Yes, it's trivia: a mere mention in a TV show, with no demonstrated effect on his life, is a perfect example of the trivia that sets us apart from professional encyclopedias. Were Britannica to be able to provide coverage as detailed as we do, it would surely exclude such a thing. Nyttend (talk) 20:49, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Womens 400 metres relay at 1988 summer olympics

Hello, you reversed my edit on this article. I'm glad that you show your source. I've got one problem, my own source says, Lyudmila Kondratyewa and not Maia started. Take a look at page 262. I don't want a useless edit-war, so I decided to contact you. The question is, which one of the sources is more credible? Have a good day and a happy new year. --OlympicLegends (talk) 12:20, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes I'll trust la84 to anybody else who copies (typos) their original results from the source. Trackinfo (talk) 18:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

So are we at one that Kondratyeva started? Sorry to ask, but English is not my native language. --OlympicLegends (talk) 15:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes I reverted the edit. And thank you for checking over these details. There are very few of us watching through these articles. I am trying to watch with the same diligence as you. Trackinfo (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Woman's pole vault progression

Hi Trackinfo! I see you've added the pre-IAAF progression to the Women's vault record progression page. Since you added the info, I thought you'd like to amend the page as per the progression found in the IAAF list (page 324) - there are many additional records there, and the source is RS - which the blog you linked to isn't - as per wikipedia guidelines. [3]

There are a lot of records which weren't on that page you sourced to, something like TWELVE (!) set by Mildred Carl on one day in 1915, for example... And, I'll make the point I did on the high jump page - metric should be the main height followed by imperial, rather than the measurement used at the time of the marks. Canada Jack (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Maybe the link that reveals now is different from the exact one I read before. This site, by Becca Gillespie has repeatedly proven to be a valuable source of information. The list I quoted from was attributed to Roger Ruth, another expert in the field, though I cannot find the original list this quoted from. That said, it is an independent list of the IAAF. If IAAF kept a pre-ratification list, great. Here on wikipedia, we are subject to review and other people can find other sources, as you did. Point being, there was nothing at all posted on this subject before yesterday, now we have a structure to work with and improve upon. Eventually we will get a better list. I actually found this information while searching for another non-existent article Women's indoor pole vault world record progression that I have been researching. When I get time to post that, the source of the information I have is directly from the IAAF, but it is in such a convoluted form that I have had to reckon from their information rather than copy and paste an existing formal list. Maybe that information is contained in the document you linked to. If so, It might save me a lot of time and effort. Help on anything on wikipedia is always welcome. Trackinfo (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Trackinfo. I, like you, want to keep the criteria for masters athletics as they were previously, if not wider. I apologise that my wanting to expand the notability criteria got this debate going on removing the criteria entirely, I think it maybe was an occasion where keeping our head down would have avoided this entirely, so I'm sorry.

On another note, I often find myself wanting to help improve athletics articles but not knowing where to start. I am very knowledgeable about athletics, although new to Wikipedia, so I was wondering if you could give me any pointers. Thanks, JDWFC (talk) 18:00, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

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You have reinstated a comment that was removed by the IP who posted it. Seems somewhat unnecessary - especially as the IP is disruptive and probably a sock, by their own admission. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Actually, you were the first to remove that comment [4] before they re-inserted and retracted it. I stuck my nose into this to find a source to back up the original claim. We have one IP screaming that his source is superior to all others, now we have another IP screaming you can't trust all these sources. I don't know this subject well enough to express an opinion of my own, I searched and went with what a source said.[5] That's what I do when I see content being removed. I thought the source was informed on the subject and reliable. We have a discussion brewing and I don't know what the outcome will be or where it will take us. We have inexperienced IPs who do not know WP rules, but we as experienced, registered users shouldn't break the rules. So I'm going to stand back and watch to make sure this is a fair fight. Maybe we will learn something along the way. Trackinfo (talk) 21:50, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

The article content is a different matter. Anyway, the IP has now again removed their own talk page comment, so I hope you won't reinstate it. I've also removed stray bot and IP sigs that were both unnecessary and misleading (suggesting among other things that a message I had added was in fact not from me). Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:04, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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4x100m relay qualified in Rio

Hi. You have completed the list of 8 teams added to the 8 already qualified after Nassau Relays 2015. The IAAF published today the list of federations invited to participate, as the following: CHN 75.93, CAN 76.14, ANT 76.15, GBR 76.29, NED 76.85, TUR 77.00, DOM 77.13 and CUB 77.14. BAR 77.20 and ITA 77.26 will replace if necessary unwilling qualified teams. Are you certain of what you have edited? Italy is on the list, but this team is only 10th... Please reply here, thanks.--Enzino (talk) 22:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Something is screwed up in that there are 9 teams listed. I wasn't counting specifically when I made the edit, but there were enough <br> slots apparently for 9. I based the entry on the 2016 list:

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• 2 38.12 Great Britain & N.I.
• 3 38.21 PR of China (Germany already qualified)
• 4 38.31 A Turkey (France already qualified)
• 5T. 38.44 Cuba
• 5T. 38.44 Netherlands
• 7 38.52 Dominican Republic
• 8 38.58 Italy

so 38.64 Poland is the odd one out of the list But apparently IAAF is adding their best two times together for the list provided. That procedure was not mentioned in the original specification. Now the published list is out and I will correct the list Trackinfo (talk) 23:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply as above (since the beginning IAAF added the 2 best times 2015-2016).

Enzino Please tell us where you found (site link) the information to update of all relays lists.--Yasnodark (talk) 12:24, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I didn't post links because IAAF made the lists into a download rather than a link. They are all here.Trackinfo (talk) 16:13, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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You have recently added the U.S. Hammer Throwers as Qualified (77m) but in fact they are Invited (because none of them have the mark of 77m). So they have to be move in the bottom section of Invitational Places. Thanks again.--Enzino (talk) 12:33, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for the info, normally South American tournaments only have the 10 main countries - in rare occasions they don't leave out Suriname and the Guyanas. And apparently Panama is on the South American Games too (along with Aruba and the Antilles). Hope to help with the athletics pages, just saw my country win pole vault - only not with the world champion that always backs out in the Olympics. igordebraga ≠ 18:14, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm just fine tuning the accolades for Braz. While I certainly admire Maurer for sticking it out and continuing to improve at 35, there is just too much competition on the women's side. She is going to have to harness the same home crowd magic Braz did. I'm having to write at a distance, though I was there in person for the Pan Am Games in 2007. Trackinfo (talk) 18:20, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm also not in loco, just watching all I can through the TV\radio\internet. And I mentioned her because she could not do it again this time (and not due to competition, but just what could be a sign of age). igordebraga ≠ 00:13, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I did not expect the total failure. Trackinfo (talk) 09:28, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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You seem to have a problem with this article. You left a tag which, as I explain on my user page, effectively vandalizes the article. But you didn't have the courtesy to take your complaint to the talk page. So we have no idea what specifically you are complaining about. While I created it, there have been other editors. There was turmoil during the hours he won the silver medal, had it taken away and reinstated. The page required page protection during that period. You know this, you were involved. The last paragraph still needs some work. Still thats not enough of a problem, and a temporary problem at that, for you to leave a tag that you should be well aware most editors do not know what to do with and are at least fearful of removing. If you have a complaint, at least explain it. Preferably, make the complaint in the talk page and not on the main article where the entire world sees it, discrediting the article and wikipedia. Trackinfo (talk) 09:29, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't have the time nor the inclination to read your personal user page screeds. Adding a maintenance tag to an article is not "vandalism" - while wrongly accusing another editor of "vandalizing the article" is a personal attack. As for you having "no idea what specifically you are complaining about", try reading the maintenance template again and following the bold link to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout which it explicitly suggests. If you are so upset by this, I suggest you take a break from editing, stop taking things so personally, and remember that you don't own that page nor any other page you contribute to on Wikipedia. And stay the fuck off my user pages from this point onwards. Keri (talk) 10:41, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

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Re this edit and a similar edit on another article: the onus is on you to add such content. It doesn't work, where you add disputed content and some other editor has to fix it up. If you can't follow guidelines, that's not a problem of mine -- but rather yours.

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If you haven't noticed, I edit in bursts when I have time. No need to be so damned impatient. I get the job done, everything gets sourced. Your unnecessary impatience even has served to block my edits, Trackinfo (talk) 19:31, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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2016 World Masters Athletics Championships

Not to be rude, but there are still 5 links to disambiguation pages open. But more serious, is there any possibility to split this very heavy article? If you start adding independent sources conform WP:RS this article will be too heavy to handle for most users. The Banner talk 19:41, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

We have other lengthy results lists like this. I welcome suggestions on how to split the article into a more manageable size. In other cases I tried in the past to reduce such articles into multiple sections, then the sections were attacked at *fD. Trackinfo (talk) 19:53, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

The AfD-process could be related to the lack of independent sources...

But I guess a split in women's and men's events will work. The Banner talk 20:18, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

I made the gender split. Trackinfo (talk) 03:15, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

And are you interested in an archive-bot to reduce the size of you talk page without loosing info? The Banner talk 20:20, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

No. Sorry, but from our previous dispute, I observed how you regularly delete and archive the numerous complaints against you as a technique (deliberately or possibly just my perception) to hide the cumulative mass. In the spirit of openness, I place my full record of interacting with other wikipedians, the good and the bad, on full public view. I've made a few cleanups along the way I'm sure, but for the most part, I have left even major formatting mistakes. Trackinfo (talk) 03:15, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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300m hurdles

Hi Trackinfo. Thank you for your recent work. This source: [6] mentioned a lot of Girls' times as low hurdles marks. So I'm a little bit confused. Do you know what means the term "intermediate" hurdles? Is it similiar to "senior" hurdles? Greetings. Montell 74 (talk) 08:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Ok i think i "got" it now. In Women's race there is only "low" hurdles, right?.Montell 74 (talk) 09:18, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

In USA, low hurdles 30" (76.2 cm) have been the standard for women's events, so there is no distinction. American high schools switched heights for men in the mid-1980's so the low hurdle marks do not conform with proper hurdle specifications.Trackinfo (talk) 17:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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By inserting "so called" you are inserting an opinion into the statement, which is improper. It is clear you disagree with the terminology. I'm sure both sides disagree on the semantics of the terms the opposition uses. "Pro Life" and "Pro Choice" are the commonly understood terms for the two sides. Note that both terms work as wiki links. Wikipedia uses the terms that are reported, that the general public would understand, without expressing any derision toward one side's term or the other's. If you insist on inserting your opinion into wikipedia's voice, you will be reverted, reported and potentially blocked. Trackinfo (talk) 08:15, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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Re: Bare URLs

Sorry, but I'm not going to take that time to fill up ALL OF THOSE bare citations. I just plan on alerting anyone who's interested to do it for me. Please assume good faith and do not be aggressive. I really do not appreciate that kind of behavior. Parsley Man (talk) 09:16, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

You are the one who aggressively posted the tags in order to voice YOUR complaint about the formatting of those sources. In your statement above, you too admit the URL formatting is a waste of time. I don't do it, you are not willing to do it, very few other are willing to do it. So you should stop your public complaining about an issue that only you and a handful of wiki trolls see as a problem. Trackinfo (talk) 18:53, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Use reFill or Reflinks. Easy peasy. or at least tag the article with Template:Cleanup bare URLs --Jennica✿ / ^talk 02:39, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

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I came across this patrolling changes to school articles where she was added as a notable alumni. Deferring to your greater experience with track athletes, is she even notable? Do the claims made in the one sentence article even rise to claims of notability? Para olympians are considered notable, but lesser competitions? John from Idegon (talk) 21:09, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

I added the link. She is the 2016 Paralympics gold medalist so clearly notable. I don't know why the Paralympic article still red links her. Trackinfo (talk) 23:13, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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