Trusci

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Hello, Trusci, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, your edit to Telegony (theory) does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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November 2022

Hello, I'm Tgeorgescu. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Telegony (theory) seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. tgeorgescu (talk) 14:15, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, content you added to Telegony (theory) appears to be a minority or fringe viewpoint, and appears to have given undue weight to this minority viewpoint, and has been reverted. To maintain a neutral point of view, an idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in an article about a mainstream idea. Feel free to use the article's talk page to discuss this, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. tgeorgescu (talk) 14:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Tgeorgescu, nice to meet you. I would really appreciate if you could explain which points of the contributions does not conform to the NPOV, not just reverting all and refering the wikipedia pages. Trusci (talk) 14:31, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Notice of Fringe Theories Noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. tgeorgescu (talk) 15:20, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppetry

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Trusci. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 18:27, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: I thought that, if I am not a sockpuppet, I am only required to prove it because I did not breach the policy. However, from your comment, I guess writing “how my editing merited a block, what I would do differently, and what constructive edits I would make” is necessary even in this case. Do I understand right?

If it is right, I think you are satisfied with the evidences proving that I am not a sockpuppet, but WP:SPA is the still remaining problem even though it’s been only 2 weeks creating the account. So I need to post an unblock request that only containing the additional contents regarding how I would behave to remove the WP:SPA tag using the tip in your comment. Is it also right?

I would appreciate if you could answer the questions. --Trusci (talk) 15:07, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Not the blocking admin, so you need to ask them. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:11, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #65648 for context. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Okay. @DatGuy: I would appreciate it if you could answer the questions. Trusci (talk) 02:39, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

@RoySmith: I would really appriciate it if you could help me finish this appeal, because user:DatGuy seems absent since 19 November and you are also associated with the sockpuppet investigation. Trusci (talk) 14:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

I remain of the opinion that the two accounts are either handled by the same person, or only so practically. Since your only edits are promoting a fringe theory, you must first convince them you aren't a sockpuppet and then convince them you can contribute positively. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 18:54, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh you still remain of the opinion that I am a sockpuppet even though you have read the UTRS appeal #65648. I would appreciate it if you specify the "too much evidences" that I can refute because it is kind of "Probatio Diabolica (devil's proof)", which is almost impossible to prove without clearly specified evidences. Trusci (talk) 00:13, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@RoySmith: the admin user:DatGuy seems too busy to explain the actions with evidences. What can I do to finish this appeal as soon as possible? --Trusci (talk) 13:52, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

You can argue in bad faith all you want. Any administrator reviewing your request can email me for my reasoning. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 22:06, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

And that's true: checkusers aren't allowed to make public data subjected to privacy protection. So, no, DatGuy is not allowed to publicly tell what the evidence is. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:17, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Is it the privacy issue the reason that you do not specify the evidences as Tgeorgescu mentioned? @Deepfriedokra:, @RoySmith: I think the other's opinions are necessary. Am I arguing in bad faith? I am asking because the guideline requires me to understand the reasons for the block before to appeal the block.

If you don't understand any detail of the policy, or still don't understand the action or reason that caused you to receive a block, you can ask the administrator that blocked you for help, or for any clarification on details that may be unclear to you. Administrators are expected to answer your questions and reasonably explain their actions. Don't ask for help or respond with questions within the actual unblock request, though, as it should be only used after you understand the reasons for the block, and when you are ready to appeal your block with a request to be unblocked, and provide an explanation.

— Wikipedia:Appealing a block

--Trusci (talk) 00:19, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

I'll tell you what checkusers generally have: IP, geolocation, operating system, browser, browser plugins and other stuff that your browser tells to every website it opens. So, if you're from the same town and both use Chrome browser on MacBooks, that is an indication of sockpuppetry. But again, even if sockpuppetry is not proven, there is something like meatpuppetry. tgeorgescu (talk) 11:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

@RoySmith:, @Deepfriedokra: I am sending the notification again in order to make sure if you have checked or missed it. Because I am blocked from editing the noticeboards, I am not sure what can I do to ask for the other's opinions. I would really appreciate it if you first let me check whether you have checked it and suggest how I can ask for the other's opinions in case you are too busy to give your own opinions. Trusci (talk) 07:45, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

@DatGuy: Reminder: Is it only the privacy issue the reason that you do not specify the evidences as Tgeorgescu mentioned? --Trusci (talk) 07:49, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm not really the right person to be handing this appeal. Somebody will eventually get to it. I'm sorry I can't give you anything better. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:26, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

I really appreciate your reply. It is sad that I can do nothing but waiting for somebody eventually getting to it. --Trusci (talk) 16:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

It's to avoid spilling the beans. If I explain the evidence used to reach the conclusion you engage in sockpuppetry, you can simply change that behaviour for next time, and it'll be much more difficult to spot. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 15:07, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

I understand the administrators' concerns about the difficulty of preventing sockpuppetry. So I contemplated but failed to find a way. I want to ask how you can prove your innocence in the case of the allegation without explicit evidence. I would really appreciate it if you could suggest at least one way to convince you that I am not associated with the sockpuppetry. --Trusci (talk) 16:10, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

We can play with hypotheticals. I have no issue with you being unblocked, as long as you can prove you can contribute positively, and you disclose all relevant information that might be relevant or might help explain why the community suspects sockpuppetry (WP:SOCKBLOCK).

Regarding the former, here's some stuff that may increase the likelihood of a reviewing administrator accepting your unblock request:

1. Avoiding Telegony, or fringe theories in general
2. Contributing positively to other Wikipedia projects
3. Creating a sample article in your userspace

DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 16:46, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate your suggestions. I have no more information to disclose, so I will try to prove I can contribute positively. --Trusci (talk) 04:38, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: I would really appreciate it if you could review this talk and give your opinion. --Trusci (talk) 04:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Trusci (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I am not associated in the suspected sockpuppetry at all. The efforts to prove my innocence can be found in the former appeal and this talk page. I would really appreciate it if you could go over the situation and related materials carefully. And now I understood that contributions in narrow topics can arouse suspicions, so I started the Wikipedia:Maintenance tasks. Because I cannot edit articles directly, I am posting the edits for open tasks in this talk page below during the blocking period. I think it can be an evidence for what constructive edits I would make when I am unblocked.

Decline reason:

I don't know if this is sock or meat puppetry, but nothing in this request disputes the information in the SPI. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:35, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@Deepfriedokra: I am sending the notification again in order to make sure if you have checked or missed it. I would really appreciate it if you could review the appeal. At least short reply verifying you did not miss it would be very much appreciated if you are busy. --Trusci (talk) 14:34, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

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