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I agree you but before my change Realm of Toledo appeared as Kingdom so it could be confused as the same level of the Kingdom of Castile, why appears the Realm of Toledo before my change and no other than Murcia or Seville? It also appears a no well-known, short-lived and small kingdom related with Navarre. If you think there are a lot of subdivisions I agree with you but If the Castilian Realms are removed from this template, the Realm of Toledo and the strange Kingdom linked with Navarre (Kingdom of Viguera) should remove too. Kingdom of Castile and Crown of Castile are different, Crown of Castile= Kingdom of Castile + Kingdom of León. Kingdom of Galicia is related with the Kingdom of León, so Galicia Kingdom sould remove too.--Heralder (talk) 20:17, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think you are right, in my opion should remove:
- Castilian Realm of Córdoba · Castilian Realm of Jaén · Castilian Realm of Murcia · Castilian Realm of Sevile · Castilian Realm of Toledo and Kingdom of Viguera.
- Viguera because there were other short-lived kingdoms like the Kingdom-City of Zamora with Queen Urraca. For this reason I think Viguera should be deleted too.
- The Kingdom of Galicia is a different case It was really important so it should appear at this template.
- and the Crowns of Castile and Aragon with subdivitions in different lines are better and reduce the mess.
- Are you agree?--Heralder (talk) 20:46, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- You 've had a good idea, I think León is not a problem in this template, is earlier as other kingdom Only a detail Asturias was an earlier kingdom origin of León (and Castile) Marca Hispanica was the frankish border of Charlemagne. Navarre appeared time after so, in my opinion could be better:
- Kingdom of Asturias · Marca Hispanica
- Kingdom of León (Kingdom of Galicia) · Kingdom of Castile · Kingdom of Aragon · Kingdom of Navarre
- Crown of Castile (Castile-León) · Crown of Aragon (Principality of Catalonia · Kingdom of Valencia · Kingdom of Majorca)
- Are agree with my little advice?--Heralder (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Only a tiny detail, it is the most correct form and appears this article at Wikipedia.
- Kingdom of Asturias · Marca Hispanica · Kingdom of Navarre · Kingdom of León (Kingdom of Galicia) · Kingdom of Castile
- Crown of Castile · Crown of Aragon (Kingdom of Aragon · Principality of Catalonia · Kingdom of Valencia · Kingdom of Majorca)
- In the past Crown means Compound Kingdom or Kingdom of Kingdoms (Crown of Castile, León and Castile; Crown or Lands of the Crown of St Stephan, Hungary and Bohemia (Chequia Slovaquia and other central Europe regions)
- What do you think? Heralder (talk) 21:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you very much--Heralder (talk) 21:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
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