Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Think tank

For ideas related to the Counter Vandalism Unit Academy, see Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Academy/Next.

This is the page to discuss ideas pertaining to the best methods to fight vandalism. So feel free to add your two cents or add a new section to start a new topic.

Summary of previous discussions

• Reformatting CVU: A discussion took place at Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Re-formatting about a complete overhaul of CVU, including absorbing WP:Sock puppet investigation, WP:New pages patrol, WP:RFPP, WP:Recent changes patrol, the election of Coordinators. After strong opposition, the only actionable steps taken were the merge of WikiProject Vandalism Studies (now at WP:Counter-vandalism Unit/Vandalism Studies and the potential to establish an Academy to help new users better fight Vandalism. (Current discussion is at WT:CVUA. No other actions were taken.

• When to use the Level 4im tag: According to Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace, the Level 4im tag should be be placed on a vandal's talk page when you assume bad faith and want to give the vandal strong one-time very strong cease and desist warning. Since this language is vague and open-ended and since some admins will not take disciplinary action unless four distinct warnings have been given within a month, the think tank debated the purpose of the tag and when it should be used. The general view of the tank was that the tag should be used with personal discretion for bad faith edits that are extremely bad (perhaps even in violation of laws) and/or are numerous with "no excuse". An admin will likely take action after this one warning tag has been used if there has been a long history of vandalism and/or the point has been conveyed: "if you carry on, you will be blocked". No real consensus was achieved.

• Reaction to Wikipedia:Revert, block, ignore: The tank generally agrees with the essay, but disagrees with the point that the CVU encourages vandalism. At the very least, it does more good than harm, as long as it remains non-paramilitary.

• Report: "How long does vandalism survive on Wikipedia?": As of June 2009, 25% of all vandalism is reverted within 60 seconds, and the median time-to-correction is four minutes. "Long-lasting" vandalism remains a problem.

Current Discussions

Wikipedia Ad?

Random Thought Time: I wondered to myself a few minutes ago, "Hmmm, does the CVU have a Wikipedia Ad inviting users to join the force?" I checked out the list at Template:Wikipedia_ads and didn't seem to find one. Is this something on the agenda, or have you guys previously discussed this, or is this completely new and does someone have any interest in working on this? If we want an ad, I'd be happy to do/collaborate on one - I'm actually a graphic designer by trade. But, just curious, let me know! :)Theopolisme _TALK 04:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it's a bad idea. Maybe to 'advertise' the new divisions we have. Just an idea. I wouldn't mind seeing a 'Kipedia Ad.Achowat (talk) 12:50, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I may mess around with something then. Theopolisme _TALK 15:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Completely new idea, but a very good idea. I would definetly like to see what you come up with. Dan653 (talk) 02:42, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Argh, the stress! Busy with some other real design work right now, but I'll get cracking hopefully over the weekend and post what I come up with. Theopolisme _TALK 03:18, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Past Discussions

Live testing and launch date discussion

This area is for the discussion of live testing dates and start dates

• Do we have any idea's for either? MrLittleIrish^(talk) 10:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I presume my Petite Hibernian Colleague is referring to the work currently done at WP:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy. Achowat (talk) 11:51, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
    • Yus. I'm not actually Petite. I was when I was 12 when I though up this username (Not wiki related at the time) :) MrLittleIrish^(talk) 12:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Alpha testing

Y April 16-23, 2012.

Beta testing

Y April 23-May 11, 2012.

Go live

Y May 11, 2012