Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/American Icons

American Icons

Apples, Apple pie, the American Flag, and Baseball are all icons of America.

This is a picture which I have always considered good, but had never thought of nominating. It is sharp, has little, if any, grain, and is encyclopedic because it shows four items common, and almost considered "sacred", in America. It appears in Cuisine of the United States, Apple Pie, United States, and Culture by region. The picture was taken by Scott Bauer.

Nominate and Support | AndonicO Talk 12:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, there's nothing American about apple pie!

Seriously, I find the composition a bit lacking too. The focus of the picture seems to be on the apples, as they're in the centre-foreground and are the only items wholly in frame (even the pie, which is supposed to be the subject of the photo, is cut off). But apples are not even proverbially American; they're just there to let the viewer know that the pie is an apple pie. (Why not just cut the pie open?)

A picture along these lines but with more American icons would be a great idea. And arranged so that you can see the things, rather than with them artistically escaping out the sides of the photo.

Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I've seen this pic before and always thought it was a little cheesy.--Niro5 15:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above, however, a featured picture about one culture or another would be good —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahadland1234 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Oppose. Too cheesy. Also, I believe the trifecta is "Mom, baseball, and apple pie." howch e ng {chat} 16:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - per above. --Ineffable3000 20:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for image's technical problems... not for excessive cheesiness. gren グレン 19:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It is ironic that this image of American icons disrespects the flag of the USA by using it as a tablecloth. —dm ^(talk) 22:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Actually, this image is the only one I have seen with a discussion page. They were arguing over this there. Here's the link. | AndonicO Talk 22:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dm, I saw your post on the talk page of the picture, and I read the link you gave there. Can the nomination be closed early because of the reason you gave? | AndonicO Talk 15:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per extreme cheese. A technically fine image, but for the four subjects it depicts, Cuisine of the United States and Apple Pie don't match because it has a baseball stuff and a flag. As for United States or Culture by region this tells me nothing of the subjects. Perhaps this better represents Still life. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 17:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How about Secular icon or Cultural icon?
Comment — This is an excellent photograph. However, one of the criteria for FP is accuracy, and pie isn't really something exclusive to the United States. ♠ SG →Talk 23:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: though I enjoy cheese with apple pie, this is a bit much. Jonathunder 18:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Completely token support-it illustrates [the symbolism of] Americana well. –Outriggr § 03:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I am glad somebody supported this to some degree, I could not. It lacks encyclopedic value, but there is no denying(by me atleast) that it is an excellent picture. A whole whack of opposes on FPC is not reason to think your picture is not wonderfull(lord knows I know), it only means it is not encyclopedic. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 04:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - But I think it is encyclopedic: Americana - perfect! –Outriggr § 00:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --KFP (talk | contribs) 12:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]