Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Mother and child in desert

Mother and child in desert

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Original – Caption provided by the U.S. Government: "A common sight among the Armenian refugees in Syria. An Armenian child dead in the fields within sight of help and safety at Aleppo."

Reason: Perhaps one of the most dramatic eye-witness photographs of the Armenian Genocide. An Armenian woman is trying to help her child who's laying dead in the middle of the Syrian desert. Great EV and good quality for such an old photograph.
Articles in which this image appears: Armenian Genocide
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/History/Others
Creator: EtienneDolet

Support as nominator – Étienne Dolet (talk) 21:52, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose The attempt to remove film grain has killed some details. Compare the child on the left's trousers to an earlier version in the file history. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 23:13, 17 September 2014 (UTC) Support. Looks a lot better. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 04:23, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I made the current version, and I see what you are referring to. I had taken steps to bring back in the details lost, but I may have rendered too soon. When I get back to my other computer I will see if I can re-render and re-upload. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 04:00, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I was hoping would happen. Honestly, you don't really need to worry about grain so much [some grain is usually perfectly acceptable], though I think there is a little more damage to fix: That lighter patch on the child, below the woman's elbow looks like dirt on the image to me. A bit of burn should fix that. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 04:18, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, so I was right about the detail corrections, I'd forgotten to include them in the final render. So I made a new one with those in, and now I'm looking at the whole thing more critically. I think you're right about the grain in that I did too much to remove it. So I'm going to upload a new version of it in a few minutes that corrects the fading around the edges, the dust & scratches, the levels and which picks out the faces just a bit, and stops there. I think everyone will like this version best, but let me know. I can always add more touchups or scale back some. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 13:48, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: @Adam Cuerden: I see what you're referring to on the girl's dress, however when I look closer up, the light area follows the surface of that particular piece of cloth perfectly. I think it's actually discoloration of the material. I could still fix it, but I'm at a point where I'm reluctant to do too much. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 14:46, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Let's leave it, then. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 21:12, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support on EV, but I do prefer the original as uploaded. Perhaps Adam could work on an Alt? Coat of Many Colours (talk) 00:18, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Note previous FPC nom. --101.108.105.159 (talk) 06:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support This picture is quite moving and powerful, which is what led me to take an interest in it beyond the photography workshop. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 12:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wish the quality was a bit better, but it's pretty good considering the age of the photo. --Երևանցի ^talk 22:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- No doubt at all..The herald 14:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Armenian woman kneeling beside dead child in field.png --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 22:03, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]