Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Queen Sālote Tupou III of Tonga

Queen Sālote Tupou III of Tonga

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 21 Aug 2016 at 14:57:46 (UTC)

Reason: A fine picture, very nicely reproduced, of a highly notable person
Articles in which this image appears: Sālote Tupou III
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Royalty and nobility
Creator: Unknown photographer; Restored by Adam Cuerden

Support as nominator – Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 14:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support – very nice restoration. Bammesk (talk) 00:53, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Side note: source link [1] has the name of the photographer and gives the date as circa 1910, where does 1908 come from?[reply]
Comment - Very nice picture and lovely restoration, but I question the EV for this picture. She was not Queen at that age, so it's essentially a picture of a child. We don't nominate pictures of Churchill, or John Lennon at age 8... I'm not sure I understand why a picture of someone famous as a child would be included in an encyclopedia. Mattximus (talk) 02:51, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As biographies, in addition to the subject's prime years, we do cover their youth and later years if the info is available. We do include images at various stages, for example [2]. Whether non-prime-year images should be nominated for FP is a valid question though. My two cents about this particular case: the image is of the daughter of a monarch who became queen. In the absence of a quality image showing her in her prime, I see no harm in nominating a quality image from her youth. Bammesk (talk) 03:46, 12 August 2016 (UTC) Side note: something to think about, if there were no quality images of Churchill or John Lennon in their prime years, would it be Ok to nominate a quality image of them in their youth? I think the answer is yes, but I could be wrong.[reply]

Oppose - After further consideration, and with full respect to the restoration and quality of the image, I don't think there is any encyclopedic value in a photograph of a person when they were not notable. To me it doesn't really make sense, I can't think of any real life encyclopedia that would include a photo of a famous world figure... as a child. Unless of course they did something notable as a child. Mattximus (talk) 14:56, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We do have a section of the article dedicated to her childhood. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 21:44, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I don't mind showing her before she began her reign. Fantastic image. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:19, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Per Chris.--Godot13 (talk) 19:12, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support-at the time of the picture,she was(and had been since birth)Crown Princess of Tonga.For me,that's notable enough to justify the picture. Lemon martini (talk) 12:22, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Jobas (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – @Adam Cuerden: photographer name is Herman John Schmidt per [3]. Also source says circa 1910, where does 8 March 1908 come from? Bammesk (talk) 14:28, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Salote Tupou III of Tonga in 1908.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 14:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]