Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/B'Day/archive1

B'Day

B'Day

10 articles

"Beautiful Liar"

"Déjà Vu (Beyoncé Knowles song)"

"Get Me Bodied"

"Green Light (Beyoncé Knowles song)"

"Irreplaceable"

"Listen (song)"

"Ring the Alarm"

"Suga Mama"

"Upgrade U"

Although I was not the main contributor on any topic, I decided to nominate them because who managed to Good Article class, maybe forgot nominate them to Good Topics. Tbhotch^Talk 19:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I removed B'Day From being listed twice. Zginder 2010-03-13T16:06Z (UTC)

• Why is Suga Mama, which is a good article, not included? Zginder 2010-03-13T16:06Z (UTC)

• I didn't know about the song. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 02:09, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose - the topic is missing the articles Check on It (another single on the deluxe version of the album), Amor Gitano (ditto), Hollywood (Jay-Z song) (single featuring Beyonce with reworked version on deluxe edition), B'Day Anthology Video Album (video album released with the deluxe version), Irreemplazable (EP released with the deluxe version), Beyoncé Karaoke Hits, Vol. I (compilation of stuff from EP and deluxe version), BET Presents Beyoncé (DVD released with the original album), The Beyoncé Experience (the tour in support of the album), The Beyoncé Experience Live (DVD of the tour) and Beyoncé The Ultimate Performer (another DVD released in support of the tour). Maybe these 10 missing articles are the reason why the topic hasn't been nominated by those who got the GAs! (who should at any rate have been notified of this GT) 20 articles associated with one album must be some kind of record though... rst20xx (talk) 03:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Comment Excepting (perhaps) for "Check on it", some of the listed articles before shouldn't are from the principal topic, e.g. tours. Like on the Featured topic: Wikipedia:Featured topics/Love. Angel. Music. Baby., there only show the album and album's songs, but no the tour Harajuku Lovers Tour 2005. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 03:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

...But then, if you look at other album topics, they usually include tour article/DVD articles/EP articles, if they exist. Look at, for example, Rock Steady, Confessions on a Dance Floor and Phantom Power, which all include articles of these varieties.

The topics lacking some of these articles are Love. Angel. Music. Baby. (as you pointed out), True Blue (missing Who's That Girl World Tour) and the three Coldplay topics (tour articles, maybe also an EP in one case). So I make that 5 album topics lacking, and 9 including everything (there are 14 total). But if you look at the dates the topics were promoted, the more recent ones are the more inclusive ones. Interestingly Rock Steady recently went through an FTRC due to lacking Rock Steady Live, and the result was that this article was brought up to GA and added to the topic, thus the topic was kept. I think what you're noticing is that standards are shifting. Further, it makes sense that a tour supporting an album is within the scope of that album's topic, doesn't it? After all, there is a section B'Day#Tour.

And at any rate, you seem to agree that Check on It should be added (what about Amor Gitano?). You've also ignored the point that you should have notified those who got the articles up to scratch before nominating the topic - rst20xx (talk) 13:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

• I'd at least think that Hollywood (Jay-Z song) and Check on It should be here. Gary King (talk) 16:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys your right, I anticipated the nominee. Check on it, Amor Gitano and Hollywood should be here too. Where can I decline the nomination? Also, I searched who was the major contributor. User:Efe was the one who got the GA and FA articles but currently is inactive. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 02:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah he's inactive, but still visits. Maybe you can work with him on this topic to complete it? Gary King (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, but it should be in other time (when he is active) and when I'm not busy. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 03:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose I do think that the singles off the deluxe version need to be included as the lead is the article about the "normal and deluxe versions. Zginder 2010-03-16T16:16Z (UTC)
• Nomination withdrawn - rst20xx (talk) 16:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)