Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Good log/November 2010
Characters of Smallville
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I am nominating these articles because I feel that they meet the criteria. As of today, the Justice League article is in its GA nomination and I am waiting on final approval of some changes to see if it passes. Based on the comments, it appears that it should pass before its 7 days is up (It passed today). As such, that would make all of the topics under this subject header "GA" quality. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 21:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- Question I would like a clarification: why are only two episodes of the first season notable enough to deserve separate articles, but the show itself is notable enough to warrant seven distinct articles on their characters? Nergaal (talk) 17:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Answer - Because you're talking about one season as opposed to articles that cover characters over the course of 10 seasons. There's a lot more information for those characters over multiple season than any one season typically has for any one episode. It's all about the amount of info available and since most episodes are not getting significant coverage from third party sources (as opposed to a character who has multiple season to accumulate that coverage) they end up not being split off. Few episodes are gettin serious coverage mainly because the show is on The CW and not a major network like ABC or CBS. "Absolute Justice" is probably the most recent episode which has received any type of significant coverage from third party sources in the past few years. That said, how does the FT status of the season one affect this particular topic? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 21:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- After a little snooping around I found that they discussed this here. This makes some sense for the early seasons but newer episodes should have several reviews available on the web so having only three articles for the entire series is a shame for fans of the show (I've never seen it myself). IGN has reviews for all the recent episodes for instance:[1][2]Quadzilla99 (talk) 23:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- A review from IGN or TV Squad isn't enough to warrant a separate page, especially when there is little production info on individual episodes being released now that they are no longer making the companion books. But again, this topic is about the characters. The notability of individual episodes is neither here nor there. Do you have thoughts on these particular articles? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:48, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
- I know this topic is not relevant. But still a short synopsis, a cast section (imdb), and a large size critical reception section from the reviews when an episode appears (which are numerous: including reviews from MTV, Entertainment News, and other major media outlets in addition to IGN) is enough for a decent sized article. Not every article on a city has all the sections mentioned here that doesn't mean they should get deleted. Quadzilla99 (talk) 03:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
- Not all reviews, some simple plot recaps and articles on real life settles are not the same as articles on fictional topics - especially since fiction related works tend to have a lot of non-free content. That said, I repeat, "thoughts on this topic and its articles"? It seems that so far this Good Topic nomination has only been for for generating all discussions about whether there should be individual episodes for the seasons of the show and not about whether this topic warrants the GT status. Sadly, I don't recall other GT nominations generating more discussion about unrelated topics than this currently has. It's almost an insult to this process. Pardon me for saying. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 04:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
- I know this topic is not relevant. But still a short synopsis, a cast section (imdb), and a large size critical reception section from the reviews when an episode appears (which are numerous: including reviews from MTV, Entertainment News, and other major media outlets in addition to IGN) is enough for a decent sized article. Not every article on a city has all the sections mentioned here that doesn't mean they should get deleted. Quadzilla99 (talk) 03:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
- A review from IGN or TV Squad isn't enough to warrant a separate page, especially when there is little production info on individual episodes being released now that they are no longer making the companion books. But again, this topic is about the characters. The notability of individual episodes is neither here nor there. Do you have thoughts on these particular articles? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:48, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
- After a little snooping around I found that they discussed this here. This makes some sense for the early seasons but newer episodes should have several reviews available on the web so having only three articles for the entire series is a shame for fans of the show (I've never seen it myself). IGN has reviews for all the recent episodes for instance:[1][2]Quadzilla99 (talk) 23:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Answer - Because you're talking about one season as opposed to articles that cover characters over the course of 10 seasons. There's a lot more information for those characters over multiple season than any one season typically has for any one episode. It's all about the amount of info available and since most episodes are not getting significant coverage from third party sources (as opposed to a character who has multiple season to accumulate that coverage) they end up not being split off. Few episodes are gettin serious coverage mainly because the show is on The CW and not a major network like ABC or CBS. "Absolute Justice" is probably the most recent episode which has received any type of significant coverage from third party sources in the past few years. That said, how does the FT status of the season one affect this particular topic? BIGNOLE (Contact me) 21:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Support Please keep discussion on topic. Zginder 2010-11-09T21:52Z (UTC)
- Support - no gaps, looks good. Discussion on other topics are not applicable to this topic. --PresN 22:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
- Closed with consensus to promote. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:14, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
History of the New York Giants
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I am nominating this New York Giants history series that I have been working on for some time. I have attempted to differentiate the writing significantly between the articles, and the daughter articles go into much greater detail than the main article. Quadzilla99 (talk) 00:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Support unless someone finds something missing. Nergaal (talk) 17:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Question Why isn't List of New York Giants seasons included? Zginder 2010-11-09T21:57Z (UTC)
- Well, I don't really work on lists so I wouldn't know. But Wouldn't New York Giants seasons be the main article for a New York Giants seasons GT, like with TV shows? Then you would include each individual season. Incidentally, if anyone wants to collaborate on that I got 1986 and 1990 done, only 83+ to go! Quadzilla99 (talk) 00:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Tbh I could see classifying these articles numerous ways. 1) The way I did where all the "history" articles are part of a comprehensive series in that they cover in some level of detail every season the team played plus the ownership/financial history. 2) These five and the main New York Giants article since the history section there is a summary of this article even if the main article has unrelated sections or topics. 3) New York Giants as the main article and then you would include these and Logos and uniforms of the New York Giants which someone created. Curious what others think, a lot of these divisions can be confusing somewhat. Quadzilla99 (talk) 01:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- For a topic on the Giants in general we would need: New York Giants, History of the New York Giants, List of New York Giants head coaches, List of New York Giants players, (New York Giants Stadiums or the major ones) and possibly Logos and uniforms of the New York Giants and List of New York Giants records and statistics.
- For a history topic I think what has been proposed is a possibility, but I think that List of New York Giants seasons or List of New York Giants head coaches could be added so Support. Zginder 2010-11-11T04:01Z (UTC)
- Tbh I could see classifying these articles numerous ways. 1) The way I did where all the "history" articles are part of a comprehensive series in that they cover in some level of detail every season the team played plus the ownership/financial history. 2) These five and the main New York Giants article since the history section there is a summary of this article even if the main article has unrelated sections or topics. 3) New York Giants as the main article and then you would include these and Logos and uniforms of the New York Giants which someone created. Curious what others think, a lot of these divisions can be confusing somewhat. Quadzilla99 (talk) 01:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I don't really work on lists so I wouldn't know. But Wouldn't New York Giants seasons be the main article for a New York Giants seasons GT, like with TV shows? Then you would include each individual season. Incidentally, if anyone wants to collaborate on that I got 1986 and 1990 done, only 83+ to go! Quadzilla99 (talk) 00:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
- Support - Looks good to me --Admrboltz (talk) 16:38, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
- Close with consensus to promote. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)