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February 11

adding information to a name that is matching the same name of another person

I would like to addinformation for fashion designer Lloyd Klein. I am the president of Lloyd Klein. I am a little overwhelmed and cannot figure out how to create information for Lloyd Klein. Currently when we search the terms Lloyd Klein we find only the great hockeyplayer of the same name.

Can you point me to the correct information about how to uplaod information specific to the fashion designer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanparis (talk • contribs) 00:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Disambiguation. The article could be called "Lloyd Klein (fashion designer)". But as president of Lloyd Klein you have a conflict of interest. That means you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about Lloyd Klein. See also Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there...

...some kind of general template to alert editors that "HEY! there's a discussion on this article's talk page that you might want to read before you edit?" I didn't really see anything in "templates"....Thanks!Gladys J Cortez 00:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You could use {{notice}}. --Silver Edge (talk) 00:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Requiring citations

Here's an almost completely unreferenced section of an article. I put a {{refimprovesect}} template on it. Should I also go through it and put in {{cn}}'s? There would be at least twenty of them.

Let's say I wait for two weeks or a month and nothing has changed. What then, should I put in some specific {{cn}}'s, leave it alone, or be the grim reaper? Cited NPOV would leave one or two sentences. And what should I be putting on the talk page to signal my intentions? Thanks! Franamax (talk) 02:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems the whole article needs references. I've moved the references tag to the top to cover the whole thing. You may want to add {{cn}}'s to some of the more critical statements, but the large ambox should get most of the message across. I wouldn't put the article up for deletion, even if the thing is ignored for a while, as places such as this tend to be inherently notable, and it shouldn't be too hard to find references anyway. Just keep checking on it, and call in the help of a few relevant Wikiprojects if you need to.

Of course, you could always do it yourself. ;-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, I would never put the whole article up for deletion, White Rock, British Columbia vies with Kitsilano as the Centre of the Universe :) I was specifically referring to the discussion of recent suburban development in the History section, which looks to be a whole series of opinions added piecemeal. I'm close enough to the action to add ref's, but I would run a mower through the middle of it first. I'll wait a few weeks, add some specific tags, wait a bit more, then think about a cited rewrite.

I'll take your advice on posting to the right projects, but hey, have you actually tried that lately? What is the sound of deafening silence? I know, put in an "inactive" tag for the project and go up a level.

Thanks, I'll keep plugging away... Cheers! Franamax (talk) 02:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I have, and gotten the same deafening emptiness you have, but asking someone who's supposed to be focusing on the subject is better than nobody at all. Good luck with the article. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

how to edit a page?

how to edit a page in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.28.13 (talk) 07:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

At the top of the screen for every article/page there should be an "edit this page" button. Click on that and you're on your way. Be sure to abide by our core policies and avoid make slanderous, profane, or obscene edits which would be construed as vandalism. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 07:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

See more at Help:Editing. A few pages are protected and don't have edit links. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Picture

Resolved

Hi, I wondered if anyone could please help with my picture problem. I have uploaded a photograph [[1]] and am trying to put it into this article [[2]] but it won't appear. What am I doing wrong?Southdevonian (talk) 11:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it for you, the JPG wasn't capitalized, that was throwing it off, I added some parameter tags as well. -Dureo (talk) 11:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks Dureo. Capital JPG - I shall remember that.Southdevonian (talk) 11:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Keep in mind that not all images use an all-caps extension. Image:Flag of the United States.svg, exists, for example, whereas Image:Flag of the United States.SVG does not. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Quickbar preferences

Hi, When I change the Quickbar settings in "My preferences" I can only change the location on the screen (right/left). But when I change from "fixed" to "floating" nothing happens. Isn't it supposed to be floating at the side of the screen regardless of the scrolling? Thank you, Iddoj (talk) 12:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I can't find this option in Special:Preferences. Could you point out which menu you're finding this in? Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not in the standard MonoBook skin. See Help:Preferences#QuickBar settings. I use MonoBook and haven't tried this. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Posting my talk page

Hi

I have edited and saved my talk page, but am unable top publish this. Can you assist me please? 217.205.198.24 (talk) 12:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

When you make an edit on Wikipedia, your edits are immediately visible. You don't appear to have made any edits to your talk page, however - check your contributions here. If you were trying to edit a page, make sure to hit the "Save page" button after you hit "Preview". Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you have a dynamic IP address and edited the talk page for another IP. Or were you logged in when you edited? Here is general advice about creating new articles:

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Legal Auditing entry

help: The entry for Legal Auditing is an advertisement for one, very controversial firm, that is not representative of the industry, which was pioneered in the 1990s by my competing firm. The information is also incomplete and misleading and references an alleged "association" that's also an invention, not a legitimate trade organization. Even the terminology "legal auditing" is questionable -- these are not audits in the same sense as the term is used by accountants. The firm that created the entry claims to have a trademark on some of these terms. We're not really interested in getting involved in a battle for control of this entry. The entry should simply be deleted until this industry matures and a true consensus can be reached. 13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)13:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed an improper WP:External link. The rest of the article seems okay but a second opinion would be good. Sbowers3 (talk) 17:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

How can i make a page

How can i page a page about a subject IE a band or a local famous person??

Thanks Adam —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrrag66 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Making a graph

How can I make a graph charting census statistics? I have three three different years, with a few statistics for each. Thanks! Seahamlass 15:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Wikipedia currently does not have graph making software installed (i.e. line graphs, bar graphs, and so on). You may find some hep in Wikipedia:How to create graphs for Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia does have the ability to create Tables and timelines. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Changing signature

I want to know about changing signature. I have read the Wikipedia:Signatures, but their are no much information available. I have changed the signature in my preference by adding raw code in the "Signature box" of my preference. And enabled raw signature. I have some questions.

1. What is the fuction of the "raw signature" buttom?
2. The raw signature button states "If unchecked, the contents of the box above will be treated as your nickname and link automatically to your user page. If checked, the contents should be formatted with Wiki markup, including all links". What is indicated by "If unchecked"? What is "unchecked"? And what is indicated by "If checked"? How to "check"?
3. I want to know about the color codes, i.e. I can change the color of my signature. Where can I find the codes of the colors? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Otolemur crassicaudatus, and thanks for your question. Here goes:

The Raw signature tick-box (called a 'check-box' in some parts of the world), tells the Wiki software to treat what's in the text box above in one of two ways:

If unticked (unchecked), to treat the contents of the box as your literal signature, and display it exactly as it's typed when you enter ~~~~

If ticked (checked), to treat the contents of the box as a line of code ( or markup) and try to interpret it. This means that things like an automatic link to your user page will not be included unless you type in the appropriate markup. Look at other editor's signatures in the edit screens to see how they've used markup, but please bear in mind that, even with markup, signatures should be reasonably short on the edit screens so as not to break up the text too much ;)

To alter the checkbox, just left-click it. Wiki markup uses either hex-triplets or colour names to set colours; there is a list of colours here to get you started.

Hope this helps! EyeSerene^TALK 17:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Moving Chatfield High School

Resolved

The article Chatfield High School is misnamed. The correct name for the school, per its web page (linked to in the article) is Chatfield Senior High. I'd just move the page, but there are complications that are beyond my skill level: there is a redirect page for Chatfield Senior High, redirecting it to Chatfield High School; also there are maybe 25 links to the existing page.

It seems to me that we have it backwards: The page should be named Chatfield Senior High, and there should be a page redirecting Chatfield High School to that page.

Can somebody please just fix it? (Or tell me how, and I'll try. But I'm a bit concerned about messing it up.) Lou Sander (talk) 16:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Fixed by User: Friday. --omtay38 17:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The "correct" place to get this kind of thing done is at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Page deleted

My page about Dr. Theodore Geisel AZA #195 was recently deleted, but I did not copy my work onto a word processor. I checked if the administrator who deleted my wiki page (Irishguy) was on the list of administrators who could return the text of deleted wiki pages, but he wasn't on that list. How can I get my work back in order to edit it so that it will not be deleted next time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katavim (talk • contribs) 17:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I have emailed it to you. An article about an organization should demonstrate with reliable sources that it satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Most organizations do not satisfy our guidelines. Here is some general advice about creating articles:

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Frankly, individual chapters of Aleph Zadik Aleph are unlikely to be notable enough to merit their own Wikipedia articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion

Please pass this suggestion onto whoever manages Wikipedia.

First, I think Wikipedia is *phenomenal*. It was a masterstroke to develop this idea.

Second, I think it would be fun and would stimulate usage to give people a login tool, where whenever they fire up their computer, they're shown a random Wikipedia article, rather like the "featured article," when one starts Wikipedia. For many of us, it would be fun to start the day with a random bit of new learning. This could be done truly randomly, or an individual could pick a topic area (science, literature, people) and get a random article about that chosen topic (e.g., if they've selected "people" as their favorite topic, a random person's bio pops up when they start their computer).

I imagine this is probably pretty easy to do.

Rob Arnott —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.179.243.130 (talk) 17:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for your kind words about Wikipedia. It may interest you to know that nobody "manages wikipedia." Rather, everybody manages wikipedia. You can too, in fact! There is a login tool (take a look at Wikipedia:Why create an account?). As for the random page, we actually have a link (Special:Random) which you can access from the link in the toolbar at the left. If you'd like to be greeted by a random article everyday, bookmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random as your homepage. There are also a whole bunch of neat ways to find articles through the Main Page and through what are known as portals. Hope this helps! --omtay38 17:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Autograph license

Are autographs eligible for copyright? It seems to me that I saw on an autograph that it said that it was inelligble for some reason - but I can't remember where. If this is true, if I find an autograph that is published under a different license, am I allowed to change it because technically it is public domain? Save-Me-Oprah^(talk) 17:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh.... I haven't a clue, and since this has sat here for two hours without a response, I'd have to assume most other Help Desk regulars don't either. However, if you ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, the folks there should have an idea, or at least know how to find out. Sorry to send you off elsewhere, but you're much more likely to get a response there, and a more reliable one at that. Good luck! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Check out "Use of a Signature" here. Also, check out the fair use rationale for the images at [3]. Good luck, —Noah 21:33, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I missed the most important reference, start here: Signature#Copyright. —Noah 21:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

computer

what are the most important computer components? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.195.21.179 (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --The Helpful One 18:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You can also read our article on computers and come to your own conclusions.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

emailing

How do I send a page to my friends email? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdn chick (talk • contribs) 19:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You can save the page to your computer and send it as an attachment (File -> Save As) or e-mail your friend the URL. Either one works. If you're sending the URL, you might want to first click Permanent link in the sidebar so that the version you send doesn't change before your friend reads it. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Portrait Image

Resolved

Hey. I uploaded this[Image:Shiraz 1827.jpeg] image. Unfortunately it is in Portrait. How can I make it landscape?Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

You'd have to rotate the image on your computer and re-upload it. Microsoft Windows allows you to do this while previewing the image. I've done it for you in this case, however. If the image doesn't appear properly, try clearing your cache. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanx so much! I'm not sure if I could have done it my self 'cuz I have a Mac. But i will try with another image. Thanx loads!Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 11:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Signature Queston and Hometown Question

Yeah, I got ,I signature up and everything, but shouldn't it say your username too? I'm currently just putting my Username in it, and then a Pagebreak, and then my signature. Is this the only way?

Also, if we visit our hometown's page, would there be a problem if on the discussion, you said that you lived there? Or is there a rule prohibiting this?

Thanks.

~The Unwanted Comment

A Dirge for her, the doubly dead. In that, she died so young. 20:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I think you may want to take a look at WP:SIG. Generally, signatures should carry a link to your user page or user talk page, and not be too long.

As for the discussion, it would be a good idea to declare any conflict of interest you may have in discussions. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

(E/C) You sign your name here by typing four tildes (~~~~) which automatically formats to your signature when you click save (if this doesn't work, go to your preferences and uncheck "Raw signature"). You can place the tildes automatically by clicking on the editing button which looks like this: . I can imagine a good reason to mention you lived an a particular place, such as "the unsourced information about _____ is wrong, I know this because I lived there" or numerous other examples. Another words, there's no hard and fast rule "people are prohibited from saying where they live" anywhere on Wikipedia. Such a comment would be completely irrelevant, however, if placed solely for the purpose of saying it/claiming it, rather than in the context of a relevant post about the article, and it is likely to be removed if it has no purpose geared toward helping out the encyclopedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I think part of the problem you're having is that when you say signature, you mean the sort of signature people use on message boards and in forums. Generally, on Wikipedia, a signature is a way of signing your name that generally contains a link to your user page, possibly a link to your talk page, and the time and date you signed. Since Wikipedia is not a message board, chat room or forum, people don't tend to use the kind of signature you're talking about. Skittle (talk) 22:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Mmmkay... Thanks for responding. The information you gave me helped.:-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talk • contribs) 22:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Wait, why does mine have Special contributions on it, and Fuhghettaboutit and skittle don't? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Unwanted Comment (talk • contribs) 05:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Because you aren't signing. You're getting an automatic signature added by Sinebot, a bot that notices when people don't sign their names on certain pages. If you type ~~~~ at the end of your message, you should get something that looks more like mine -> Skittle (talk) 10:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

product not deliverd

my name is jimmy palmer i orderd a movie set of duck man and have not recived it i had gotten a confromation email but did not recieve the product please help my email is <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.151.21.102 (talk) 20:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Porgy and Bess

i need to find out the story of porgy and best and how black americans are represended in this film —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.236.31 (talk) 20:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Porgy and Bess (film).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) The Wikipedia article on Porgy and Bess is here, but the article for the opera version (click here) has more detail on what you are looking for - scroll down to the Racial controversy section. All the best, EyeSerene^TALK 20:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Edit My Username?

Hi

For some reason when I chose a username, the Wikipedia site decided I wanted the first letter capitalised even though I don't and specifically entered a lower case g. Can this be corrected?

Thank you, username: gndb (incorrectly recorded as "Gndb")

Usernames always start with a capital. You cannot change that, but you can customize your signature to make a lower case letter and you can use {{Lowercase}} to display a lower case g on your user page. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Your user page at User:Gndb has not been created yet. Wikilinks automatically convert a lower case starting letter to upper case, so User:gndb would also work. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! :) gndb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gndb (talk • contribs) 21:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_made_the_first_bomb

Has anyone looked at the entry for this? It probably was made by an Iranian mullah! I am not exactly computer literate, so I can't fix it myself, but I think someone on your end should look at what you are being used for! Jim Cooper <emial removed for privacy>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.36.165 (talk) 21:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

A wiki is any site running wiki software—there are thousands of them. WikiAnswers is run by the Answers Corporation. Wikipedia is run by the non profit Wikimedia Foundation which is unrelated to WikiAnswers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Wikipedia and that site are not the same thing. But thanks for trying to be helpful. ^F_L^c 22:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

signature cursor

I saw someone, I don't remember the name, with a signature that had the cursor being (when moved over the link), instead of a mouse, a crosshair. I know it was something like:

<span style="textdecoration:cursor:crosshair> signature </span>

Do you have any idea of what I can do to get that effect? ^F_L^c 22:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

<span style="cursor: crosshair">signature</span>

The above source gives: signature --Kjoonlee 22:30, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

TY, TY. ^F_L^c 22:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

edit counting

Is there any way to find out the number of edits that I have made in a particular namespace without submitting an RfA or anything like that? <sorry, forgot to log in> ^F*^L*^SUBS 22:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, here. Malinaccier (talk) 22:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

My Toolbox

Could someone take a look at my User:Matthewedwards/monobook.js and help me figure out why the additions from Lupin (Filter recent changes, All recent changes, Recent IP edits, Monitor my watchlist, Live spellcheck) are listed twice. Thanks! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 23:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you fixed it yourself. [4] Can this be considered resolved now or are are you still getting two of them? • Anakin ^(talk) 00:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It's fixed now, and so resolved. Thanks though! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 00:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

New Pages

How do you make a new page on a subject LittleRedeemer (talk) 23:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

If you still want to create an article after using the above help pages, see Help:Starting a new page. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)