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November 29

SOS PLEASE

 Gentlemen:]
 I am trying to fnd the name of a piece of music which I heard  on the  old WFMR  WI.
 This was in  1988   when I left WI. 
 Would some person please send me a phone # or an  E address  for assistance ?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.133.132.186 (talk) 00:36, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello; you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia. We have a Reference desk for general knowledge questions but unfortunately your question is about a topic that happened so long ago that it is likely that no one knows or will be able to find out the answer. Further complicating the situation is the fact that the station has since flipped formats and is now known as WZBK-FM. You can try and contact that station but considering that none of the staff was held over from WFMR it is unlikely that they would know the answer either. Best of luck and regards, Xenon54 (talk) 01:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. ǝɥʇM0N0^farewell 01:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Appeal from Jimmy Wales

I intended to make a donation of £50. I don't have a Paypal accoount and when I tried to make a donation using my debit card Paypal would not process it unless I gave them my home phone number and email address. This information is not necessary to verify the payment and I'm not prepared to respond to spurious requests for personal information from any organisation. So I have not made the donation - if you can think of any other way I can donate then I would be pleased to do so as I think Wikipedia is a great resource.

Best wishes,

Bill 86.177.32.102 (talk) 01:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Here's the list of other ways to give. You could just mail them a check. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) As indicated on this page, you may also donate by credit card, or as FisherQueen indicates, by various other methods including but not limited to regular mail, direct deposit, and Moneybookers. Intelligentsium 01:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Image not displaying

Hi. I've just tried to upload an image to a page (HomeVestors content page). A photo box is displaying, with the image file name in red, but the image is not displaying. Why not? Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Funandprofit (talk • contribs) 01:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

There doesn't appear to be any such file and your edit list doesn't show you as having uploaded one. HalfShadow 02:57, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

It was uploaded at commons. I have fixed the file name: [1] Capitalization matters (Image: or File: doesn't matter). PrimeHunter (talk) 03:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Top ten lists

Can someone point to where there is some specific guidance on the non-notability of one-off top-ten type lists? (Not NLIST or LIST) I vaguely recall this being quoted in previous notability discussions and had thought it was WP:TOPTEN but not found it so far. It's in relation to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_500_Most_Influential_Muslims —Fæ (talk) 06:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Generally, if the list itself is regarded as particularly notable, it stands; in the sense that the list itself is a publication that exists outside of Wikipedia. The classic example is the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, which was a notable list long before Wikipedia was ever dreamed of. Insofar as the list exists outside of Wikipedia, and its notability as a list outside of Wikipedia is also well established, then it seems a perfectly fine topic for a Wikipedia article. Insofar as the list is either original research, or novel synthesis from other sources; that is the rankings are the sole invention of the author(s) of the Wikipedia article, OR they are cobbled together from other sources in unique ways by the author(s) of the Wikipedia, article, then the list probably shouldn't exist. This is different from many other lists at Wikipedia, whereby the lists serve as useful navigational aids; those types of lists aren't attempting to "rank" anything. However, insofar as a list presents a ranked list of something, that ranking needs to itself be notable. --Jayron32 07:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

To put it more simply : original research lists (ranking) are not acceptable. They need to be supported and/or acknowledged by multiple sources (specific to the list and not to their specific content). «CharlieEchoTango» 07:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Add link to disambiguation page

I am attempting to add a link to "George S. Hawkins (lawyer)" to the disambiguation page for George Hawkins, but have not been able to do it. Can someone help? Triathlete1969 (talk) 14:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. It's not clear how you were trying to do it, and what problems you encountered. If you explain your problem, we can perhaps tell you how to avoid similar problems in future. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Can't edit my article and some how JAK45 bogarted half of my draft space article and put it in his "Cushions" article.

Hi,

I'm trying to edit my user space draft but it is not giving me an option to do so. Also another user took my info from my draft and put it in his article which makes no sense and i don't understand how that was possible.

Please advise

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by S2kelam (talk • contribs) 15:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

You created your "draft" at the talk page of one of the help pages. I've created a userspace draft for you at User:S2kelam/Vestex. You can edit that all you like. Dismas|^(talk) 15:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) To create a new userspace draft page, you go to Help:Userspace draft, replace "new article name here" in the white box with the name of your article (for example, change the text in the box to "Special:Mypage/Vestex"), then click on the button below the box that is labelled "Create a userspace draft". This creates a page called "User:S2kelam/Vestex" with some standard article boilerplate. You can then add your article text and save the page. You seem to have tried to edit the Help:Userspace draft itself, and your changes were reverted. Gandalf61 (talk) 15:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much!!! Have a great day

S2kelam (talk) 15:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyright

I would like to enter a Wikepedia article about my grandmother born in 1900, a childhood prodigy pianist who gave concerts throughout Europe. She died in 1999. I have in my possession original photos, press critiques and other original material most of which is 80 to 100 years old. I am totally bewildered by your pages on copyright and have no idea what to do. I do not know who the photographers were (but they cannot possibly be alive) and much of the material was produced as marketing material for my grandmother and therefore the copyright would be hers. Can someone kindly advise me? GWStern GWStern (talk) 15:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Entirely aside from any conflict of interest issues, you must realize that marketing material by definition is not impartial, and does not constitute a reliable source of information (which we require); so the copyright on press kits and the like is irrelevant here. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Transcluding onlyinclude and includeonly tags

short question

Is there a way to let a template include <includeonly><onlyinclude>{{{date}}}</onlyinclude></includeonly> when transcluded?

longer explaination for question

I'll try to explain it with this table:

Page name:	Template(in this case: "template:update")	Page between(in this case: "update page")	Final page(in this case: "item page")
use:	add a notice to "update page"	show information about the update, and when transcluded show the date of it only	Only have the text between the onlyinclude tags included

This is because at the RuneScape Wiki i am trying to automate the update date. Because there is always a link to the update page on the item page, and the update page has the date on it, i want the update page to have an additional note with the date entered(between onlyinclude tags) and i don't want it to appear on the update page itself(between includeonly tags). All update pages have the template:Update on it, with the parameter {{{date}}} so I want template:update to add <includeonly><onlyinclude>{{{date}}}</onlyinclude></includeonly> to the update page so that when the item page has {{#time:j F Y|{{Update:(updatename)}}}} on it, it shows the date in "dd month yy" automatically without needing to add that yourself.

I hope someone can help me. Joeytje50 (talk) 15:51, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about how to use Wikipedia, not for programming hints about Wikia software. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

You may, however, get some answers at the MediaWiki help desk. TNXMan 18:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. I thought this was under the category "questions about how to use wikipedia" because this code is also usable on wikipedia.Joeytje50 (talk) 08:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Why Wikipedia doesn't show the counter/statistics of article views ?

Like YouTube or any other social site where content is created by its users only Wikipedia has no counter.

Why ?

It could be very very interesting to see the number of views for each article.

Have no idea where I will get the response (if any) for this question, so let me leave my email in case.

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THANK YOU! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.229.7.141 (talk) 18:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

This already exists. If you click on the "history" tab at the top of the page, you'll see a link that says "page view statistics". It will take you to a page like this. TNXMan 18:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I also want to clarify that this is a user-edited reference work, not a social site. That's not what Wikipedia is for, and "it's interesting" is not an argument for adding a feature here. We have no interest in resembling YouTube or MySpace. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Removing IP address from history

hi, i didn't notice the warning about IP address display in the history (when you're not logged in) before i made a chance to a page. i registered right after. can you please change my IP address to my user name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkSpencerTLS (talk • contribs) 19:22, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That is not possible anymore, although the information on who made the edit can be completely struck by oversight. Xenon54 (talk) 19:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

If privacy, rather than taking credit is the issue and you don't wish to go through oversight, you can email me the diff and I can then hide your IP address using revision deletion. If taking credit is the issue, you can do so in an edit summary while logged in using a dummy edit (the edit summary can take a form like "Note: Edit at 13:19, October 21, 2010 was me while not logged in" or a host of different ways. You can also do both. Note, though, that this will not protect your privacy as permanently as would oversighting.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

how to undo or fix

Sorry but I am not sure where I am supposed to send this. I accidentally messed up an article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Drexel

What is the best way for me to either fix it or revert it. All of the facts are right. I messed up on the formatting.

Thank you.

20:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)20:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)20:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)20:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)20:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)20:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)20:10, 29 November 2010 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cajun2core (talk • contribs)

I rolled it back to where you started. Read the history of any edit, and if it was the most recent edit, there should be an "undo" option presented. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I tried that but it did not work for me for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cajun2core (talk • contribs) 21:49, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Template question

Hi. I'd like to help with page maintenance. How do I create/modify a template (for display on a User page) to list articles in a particular subject category (e.g., business intelligence) that have been tagged with a particular clean-up category (e.g., copy edit)? Thanks. --Boxplot (talk) 21:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Remove Notifications/Alerts

My company’s (LightSquared) Wikipedia page has two alerts: 1) This article was written like an advertisement 2) This article needs additional citation for verification When we originally saw these notifications we updated the page, this was a few months ago, and the notifications still haven’t been removed. How do we get them removed? What should we do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.32.14.200 (talk) 21:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Normally those messages are removed by the person who fixes the issue. Normally, I'd suggest that you do it if you know something about the company but you represent a conflict of interest. Dismas|^(talk) 21:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)