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March 7

Derivation of "Bembe" in Bembe Beach

Hello , I wanted to know why the Beach in Annapolis-MD was named after Bembe as Bembe Beach...Because Bembe is a tribe or a group of people in Africa - Congo D.R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.18.172.70 (talk)

Hello. I suggest you try asking at the Miscellaneous section of the reference desk, which is geared toward general knowledge questions. This page is actually for questions directly related to using and editing Wikipedia. Best regards----Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Long Term Disability and Social Security Benefits

I was injured in a car accident. I have been on long term disability for approximately 2 years. However now I am eligible for Social Security because the doctors have stated I am 100% disabled. Why when I get Social Security will I have to pay back my long term disability insurance company (when I paid to have it in the first place?)Murphy31701 (talk) 00:37, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Murphy. This page is only for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. We do have a reference desk, where most knowledge questions are welcome, but we cannot give legal (or medical) advice. Please see Wikipedia:Legal disclaimer. So, unfortunately, your question is not suitable anywhere on Wikipedia. Sorry.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Citing a Journal

How do I cite a journal? The information is: Author = {Munyas, Burcu}, ISSN = {14623528}, Journal = {Journal of Genocide Research} Pages: 413- 439 — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshleyMichelleThompson (talk • contribs) 01:02, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Template:Cite journal. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

You would use the {{Cite journal}} template, in this case: {{cite journal |last1=Burcu |first1=Munyas |last2= |first2= |year= |title= |journal= Journal of Genocide Research|volume= |issue= |pages=413-439 |publisher= |doi= |url= |ISSN=14623528|accessdate=7 March 2013}}, which renders as: Burcu, Munyas. Journal of Genocide Research: 413–439. ISSN 1462-3528. {{cite journal}}: Missing or empty |title= (help). --ukexpat (talk) 01:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Upload a picture

Hi,i would like to upload a picture to a artist page i created.The page is my page and all info is accurate.Just want to add photo.Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clinton Place (talk • contribs) 01:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 02:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

The article in question, Numba9, has already been speedy deleted. Maproom (talk) 09:01, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

What to do about a page that was better in the far past

Dear editors: I found an article Oakhurst (band) with reviews from Allmusic.com copied onto the page, and almost everything else removed. It seems to have happened after the article was tagged as not having references and being to promotional. There's not much left that's useful on the current version; I was going to tag it for deletion, but far back in the article's past was the version with the tags: April 2010 version. There's nothing on the talk page to explain why a lot of seemingly good information was deleted. Is it a good idea to revert the article back to April 2010? —Anne Delong (talk) 03:09, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely, revert it back to the last good version with a suitable edit summary.--ukexpat (talk) 03:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay, here's the result after removing 3000 bytes of hype: Oakhurst (band) —Anne Delong (talk) 04:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)\

Looks good, I just removed the unnecessary and somewhat flowery subheadings in the history section.--ukexpat (talk) 04:34, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

make a redirect right in edit summary

Many times I correct a hyphen in an article and I want to put a link to mos:hyphen or wp:hyphen in the edit summary. If you enter either of these in the article search, they work. If you put a link to them in double brackets in the edit summary, they do not work unless they are all caps. Is there a way to get these links to work in an edit summary without being all caps? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Create a lowercase redirect yourself. Or type them allcaps in the edit summary. Either should work. --Jayron32 03:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I tried creating such a redirect, but when I try to do that by entering it in lower case, it automatically redirects me and won't let me create it. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:53, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

There are many ways to create wp:hyphen, for example clicking the red link here, or searching it at Special:Search and clicking the red link at "You may create the page", or manually altering an edit url. mos: and MOS: are not namespaces but mainspace titles and it may be controversial to make additional mos: cross-namespace redirects in mainspace. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:13, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Clicking on that redlink seems to have worked, thanks. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 05:03, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

(e/c) You could pipe the link: [[WP:HYPHEN|wp:hyphen]]. Like I did here: [1]. --Floquenbeam (talk) 03:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

But that is even MORE typing. I'm trying to avoid having to use caps. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 03:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

The problem is, everything comes at a cost. For a small saving in typing you create a new page that someone needs to keep on their watchlist to prevent it from being vandalized. — Sebastian 05:10, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

It saves me a lot of typing. I've had to CAP it a couple hundred times. And I don't think I've ever seen a redirect page vandalized. If anyone goes to the redirect page, it takes them somewhere else, and vandals don't bother to go back to the redirect page. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 05:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

A much better solution would be to protect all redirect pages from editing by IP users. Vandals rarely bother to register. And they rarely (if ever) bother to vandalize a redirect page. And if they do vandalize a redirect page it causes very little harm - it simply would not function correctly. And protect all dab pages too. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 06:04, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

All this to avoid using case the way it was intended? Part of making the shortcut links recognizable is the fact that, per WP:MOS, they are in upper-case. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

The other ones I commonly use accept lower case, e.g. wp:mos, wp:numeral, and wp:semicolon. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• For the record, it appeared to work. The lowercase shortcut is bluelinked in the edit summary now. --Jayron32 05:08, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I should have done an edit summary on my initial edit to demonstrate what I'm talking about. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 05:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Resolved

Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 19:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

How do I make a Wiki Page

I want to create one but do not have the slightest idea on how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.185.153.83 (talk) 04:22, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

See articles for creation.--ukexpat (talk) 04:23, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

See WP:YFA. You'll need to create an account first, IP users aren't allowed to make new articles (but they can edit existing articles). RudolfRed (talk) 04:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

But they can create drafts at AFC.--ukexpat (talk) 04:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

...which is here. - a boat that can float! (watch me float) 09:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Undelete an article

Please help me to do undo deletion of "Global Gateway Logistics City" I am trying to make an article on Global Gateway Logistics City. Thanks much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbalaga (talk • contribs) 05:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Global Gateway Logistics City has been repeatedly deleted as WP:SPAM - the last time as recently as yesterday. There is nothing to be gained by undeleting any of the deleted versions as their content is in any case unsuitable for a proper article. Starting from a blank page is the way to go, but please take care that you don't create another Spam page. Roger (talk) 07:47, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Also note that Global Gateway Logistics City has been protected from creation because of the repeated articlespam. Please use the WP:AFC process to create a draft and submit it for review.--ukexpat (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Pratham page on wikipedia

Hi,

I work in the Communications Team at Pratham (www.pratham.org) in India. I needed to update the page on Pratham on your website & insert some references of articles written by our CEO & Directors that have been published in the recent years.

How does one go about doing this?

Thanks,

Shradha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.59.164.135 (talk) 06:14, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Technically, it's easy: In principle, anybody can edit articles. However, many people here are very critical when an editor edits the page of an organization he or she is affiliated with; they consider the addition of such links as spam, and they make no difference whether an organization is a company or a non-profit organization, as yours is. I personally disagree with them, as I have very high respect for what Pratham is doing. I'll be happy to help you, but I'll have to call it a day soon. Please also check out our guideline on conflict of interest. — Sebastian 07:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Whether you disagree or not is irrelevant, the WP:COI, WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO rules will be enforced. Please be careful to give correct, neutral advice here. Roger (talk) 07:51, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I share Sebastian's respect for what Pratham is doing, and I share Roger's respect for Wikipedia's rules. The two can be compatible. Shradha, I suggest that you describe your proposed changes on the article's talk page, where someone will read your proposals and act on them. Maproom (talk) 13:02, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Searching for user contributions

Resolved

Is there a way to perform the following searches in pages and their history?

1. List all edits by a certain user on a certain page.
2. List all edits by a certain user on a number of pages, defined by a list.
3. List all talk page posts by another user who were near my own posts. "Near" could mean within 24 hours, within the same level-2 section, or if they were on the same version of the page at some time.

Thank you, — Sebastian 06:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

For #1, try Snottywong's tool. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:56, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I also find Writ Keeper's userhist script really useful for this. For 3, you could try the interaction analyser; it's not talkpage specific but it does a similar sort of thing. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:00, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

For #2, try User Contribution Search. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 08:14, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the tool I named might not be exactly what you want as it can search only one page at a time. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 08:22, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for the great answers! #2 isn't that important for me; I just included it in the list because I was thinking it might be useful for cases like Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jagged 85. What do you guys think: Should I add the answers to Wikipedia:Tools#Searching? — Sebastian 17:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Title of Trident Chennai

Wiki Team, this is to bring in your kind notification, that the Page Trident Hilton, Chennai has a wrong title. Trident is not more Trident Hilton. Oberoi group is managing Trident Hotels since last four years. Many times we tried changing the title but couldn't change it. Trident Hilton, Chennai

Please change the name, we have trying this since past 2 months. Name should Trident, Chennai — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.63.92.2 (talk) 08:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Moved with redirect by User:AlanM1. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:39, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Hugo Inglis - Hockey NZ

Hi there, this page was edited as a joke and is false.

Please delete "Amy Martin, primary school teacher, and Inglis have been dating for several months"

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.124.52 (talk) 08:45, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Reverted by User:Chamal N. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Academic Boosterism

what is acadmic boosterism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.240.230 (talk) 10:16, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:Avoid academic boosterism: "Editors are often motivated by loyalty and pride to portray their alma mater in a favorable light even though this often conflicts with Wikipedia's core policies on neutrality and verifiability. Using imprecise weasel words, non-neutral peacock words, and other words to avoid to portray an academic institution in a positive light is termed [academic] boosterism." Yunshui 雲‍水 10:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Help

In the edit history there are many commons delinker edits. e.g. File: xyz has been removed, it has been deleted from commons by abc. Because: copyright violation. Does this type of edit history affect my college reputation?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.244.44 (talk) 10:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

If you mean your personal reputation within the college, then no; since you are editing using a shared IP address no-one can say with any certainty who "you" are. If the file's uploader is self-identified as a student or faculty member at the college, then I suppose it might have an effect on their real-life personal reputation, but such a scenario strikes me a s very unlikely.

If, on the other hand, you're asking whether the removal of files impacts on the reputation of the college itself, then again, I see no cause for concern. The college is not responsible, as an institution, for the content of a Wikipedia article about it, and so bears no responsibility for editors' actions on such a page. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:37, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi

What to do if the edit history of the article is of no use? e.g. experimental edits, no edit summary etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.247.145 (talk) 10:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Can you give an example, please? I'm really not sure what you're asking. What did you want to use the edit history for, exactly? Yunshui 雲‍水 10:38, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Copyright Violation

In the edit history there are many commons delinker edits. e.g. File: xyz has been removed, it has been deleted from commons by abc. Because: copyright violation. Does this type of edit history affect an article quality? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farhajking (talk • contribs) 12:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Removing copyvio material from articles is without a doubt always an improvement of the article's quality. Roger (talk) 12:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Article quality ratings are manually assessed and set by editors. None of the standard Template:Grading scheme criteria consider the past removal by the delinker. Edit history only affects the rated quality at all in the case to the extent that an article that has ongoing major changes may not be eligible for GA and above status until it reaches a somewhat stable state. Monty₈₄₅ 15:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Minor edits

Why minor edits are used to exist in page history. Minor edits are of no use, so why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farhajking (talk • contribs) 12:38, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Many minor edits are very useful, for example fixing spelling errors or adjusting the layout of text or other elements of an article. Roger (talk) 12:46, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe Farhajking is not asking why minor edits are made, but why they are given in the page history. Here is one answer: some sneaky editors sometimes make a controversial edit to a page and mark it as "minor", hoping it will not be noticed. The listing of minor edits means that this is unlikely to be effective. Maproom (talk) 13:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

PREMIO TUDINI

THIS PREMIO IS IN MEMORY OF GIUSEPPE,UGO E PIERO TUDINI. THEY WERE MY GRANDFATHER,MY UNCLE AND MY FATHER.THANK YOU VERA TUDINI≠≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.57.164.219 (talk) 13:39, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

1. PLEASE STOP SHOUTING at us.

2. While there is an article on the Tudini Prize (Premio Tudini) in the Italian Wikipedia, I notice that of the approximately 70 recipients, only one of them is notable enough to have an article about them in that Wikipedia! I deeply question the prize's notability. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

And that one blue link is to an article about an archaeologist. This is unlikely to be the same Giuseppe Botti listed in the Premio Tudini article as the trainer of a winning racehorse. Maproom (talk) 15:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Especially considering the archaeologist died in 1903 and the trainer won in 1996. But we also have an English article Premio Tudini with many valid blue links. I guess the poster is suggesting that the origin of the name should be mentioned in the English article. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Mbouschor

Hello,

I'm trying to publish my page, but it's saying I have a "talk" page and my references are not showing up...how can I get that resolved? I can't seem to figure it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbouschor (talk • contribs) 15:42, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

It is resolved. I would highly recommend you to read about WP:V and WP:MOS before 'submitting' it though. Highly advise you to do that. Kinkreet^{~♥moshi moshi♥~} 15:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

reviewing the Frank Holger Rothkamm page

Dear editors: I am hoping that someone can take a look at this page: Frank Holger Rothkamm. I was trying to review it, but I don't know what a lot of the terms mean, and the references don't seem to refer to Rothkamm except for his own web site. It seems according to his web site that he has produced a lot of CDs, but he doesn't mention anything about that in the article. I'm not sure if this article should be deleted, because I can't figure out what exactly it is about. Maybe the article should be about the house. Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 18:37, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I've started by slapping a few relevant issue tags on it. Roger (talk) 19:00, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ann, me again. I removed 2 references that were to Wikipedia articles. There is just about enough importance or significance alleged to avoid an A7 speedy deletion, but I doubt it would survive Afd. Will poke around some more on Google but I suspect this his headed to Afd.--ukexpat (talk) 19:04, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

On reflection, I think it is A7able so tagged as such.--ukexpat (talk) 19:05, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. As you can see, while I am sometimes a bold editor, I am a timid deleter.

Is there a way to support a speedy deletion? The only option I could find was to contest it. Maproom (talk) 21:43, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

No, just let it go, but add it to your watchlist. It's an autobio, and my guess is we'll end up with an AFD and a snowball. (and probably a salting by the time we are done. :( )Naraht (talk) 21:51, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

If the article had been written by a third party, cited some of the supposed hundreds of independent WP:RS writing about him, and their reasons for doing so, it might be considered acceptable. Assuming good faith, I've mentioned that at the talk page in the hopes someone into the indie music scene will take some time to help. For better or worse, the "music" world has changed and notability is a lot harder to determine than it used to be (e.g. from the pages of Rolling Stone). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:45, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Creating new articles

I want to get more involved in article creation, especially in the area of engineering. Is there an easy way to find redlinks that might be worth turning blue with a new article? --Guy Macon (talk) 21:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Is this what you are looking for? Kinkreet^{~♥moshi moshi♥~} 22:08, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

(ec)WP:WikiProject Engineering has a "to do" list you might want to take a look at and you can discuss ideas with other interested editors on the Project's Talk page. Roger (talk) 22:13, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 00:19, 8 March 2013 (UTC)