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June 15

Referencing errors on Template:Indian general elections, 2004

Reference help requested.

Hi,

How to introduce or put any citation in an template Template:Indian general elections, 2004.

Thanks, Work2win (talk) 02:21, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

This seems to have been resolved; the template needed one of the {{reflist}} templates. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I did it. Some of the articles it was transcluded onto also lacked the reflist template. In fact, I have just tagged Indian general election, 2004 as lacking sources. It is quite a bad state of affairs that an article like that chocked full of numbers and statistics is completely unreferenced. SpinningSpark 10:07, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

GA and A class articles

what is the difference between GA and A class articles and which is considered of a better standard and why is A class less common then FA (FA is obviously higher class so should be less prominent). NickGibson3900 (talk) 07:13, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Does the grading scheme and article count statistics partially answer your query? To reach FA and GA, there are standard nomination and review processes. FA is considered the highest article quality level. Someone with more expertise in this area will be able to give a better answer. --Fauzan^{✆ talk}_{✉ mail} 08:55, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

An A class review is a review from a Wikiproject while a GA review is from the community as a whole. A class is generally considered a higher standard than GA class. An article belonging to multiple Wikiprojects could theoretically be A class in one but not in another. However, the usual convention on one Wikiproject reviewing to some class is to update them all to the same class. Some Wikiprojects, notably the Military History Wikiproject, have a well-established review process that actually means something. In many other projects, the class is determined merely on the whim of a passing editor with no actual review taking place so it is not all that meaningful. SpinningSpark 10:20, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Orphan Template

An article I have created that has been reviewed and approved has been given an orphan template, will this result in the page being deleted as I cannot find any articles to link to it currently? Rachend (talk) 13:05, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

The short answer is no. That is not grounds for deletion, although it is often a sign of a deeper problem which may be grounds for deletion, complete rewrite, or merging into another article. However, if it has been through a review of some sort then in all probability it is not deletable.

All articles should, in principle, be findable by drilling down through the links in Wikipedia contents. If the article has no incoming links then it can never be found by that method. All truly notable articles have some relevance to another article, even if it is only an entry on a list or a see also. If we are talking about the Mike Gaston article you might, for instance, consider listing him as an alumnus of the university from which he graduated. Also, many of the outgoing links might sensibly also be articles in which an incoming link could be placed, for instance on BBC Northern Ireland. SpinningSpark 13:32, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for that advice, I was unsure how I could create the links.

Rachend (talk) 13:58, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, occasionally an article is incorrectly tagged as an orphan. In this case it appears that the article is an orphan, and the editor would do well to add links to it. However, I recently created an article and added a link to it from a disambiguation list, and it was tagged as an orphan anyway. It is my understanding that a tool is used for the purpose, and the tool sometimes makes mistakes. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

It should be noted that if the only link to an article is from a disambiguation page, the article is an orphan; see Wikipedia:Orphan#Criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Biddulph (talk • contribs) 01:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Warning Template

Is there a warning template for vulgar and or uncivil language somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ad Orientem (talk • contribs) 15:07, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

A list of template warnings is given at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. I don't see one for vulgarity in general, but you might use either a personal attack template or a harassment template. If the user is clearly trolling, you might do better to notify an admin, so as to deny the troll talk page recognition. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I just hijacked the Warning image and made my own up. It seems to have done the trick. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:09, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Stacking infoboxes

Hello, I have started an article in my User:IQ125/sandbox. Would you please advise me how I can have two or three of the colour infoboxes side-by-side that are currently single-right-side oriented? I checked the infobox help page , but I do not see anything, thank you. Or perhaps, there is better script I can use. Thank you IQ125 (talk) 14:35, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

@IQ125: If you really have an IQ of 125, how come you can't work this out for yourself? You can do it by enclosing the boxes within a table like this;

{|
|-
|code for row 1 column 1 box
|code for row 1 column 2 box
|code for row 1 column 3 box
|-
|code for row 2 column 1 box
|code for row 2 column 2 box
|code for row 2 column 3 box
|}

which gets you a table looking like this (using a sample box form your sandbox) SpinningSpark 16:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Aircraft gray camouflage   Common connotations Federal Standard 595 36300     Color coordinates Hex triplet #92989F sRGBB (r, g, b) (146, 152, 159) HSV (h, s, v) (212°, 8%, 62%) CIELChuv (L, C, h) (63, 7, 240°) Source colorhexa.com & e-paint.co.uk B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)	Aircraft gray camouflage   Common connotations Federal Standard 595 36300     Color coordinates Hex triplet #92989F sRGBB (r, g, b) (146, 152, 159) HSV (h, s, v) (212°, 8%, 62%) CIELChuv (L, C, h) (63, 7, 240°) Source colorhexa.com & e-paint.co.uk B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)	Aircraft gray camouflage   Common connotations Federal Standard 595 36300     Color coordinates Hex triplet #92989F sRGBB (r, g, b) (146, 152, 159) HSV (h, s, v) (212°, 8%, 62%) CIELChuv (L, C, h) (63, 7, 240°) Source colorhexa.com & e-paint.co.uk B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)
Aircraft gray camouflage   Common connotations Federal Standard 595 36300     Color coordinates Hex triplet #92989F sRGBB (r, g, b) (146, 152, 159) HSV (h, s, v) (212°, 8%, 62%) CIELChuv (L, C, h) (63, 7, 240°) Source colorhexa.com & e-paint.co.uk B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)	Aircraft gray camouflage   Common connotations Federal Standard 595 36300     Color coordinates Hex triplet #92989F sRGBB (r, g, b) (146, 152, 159) HSV (h, s, v) (212°, 8%, 62%) CIELChuv (L, C, h) (63, 7, 240°) Source colorhexa.com & e-paint.co.uk B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)	Aircraft gray camouflage   Common connotations Federal Standard 595 36300     Color coordinates Hex triplet #92989F sRGBB (r, g, b) (146, 152, 159) HSV (h, s, v) (212°, 8%, 62%) CIELChuv (L, C, h) (63, 7, 240°) Source colorhexa.com & e-paint.co.uk B: Normalized to [0–255] (byte)

Thank you, works great -:) IQ125 (talk) 18:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Switzerland Sports Football

The article states that that Swiss clubs have won the European cup on more than one occasion. Swiss clubs have never won a European club competition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.38.43 (talk) 17:42, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Please give the precise name of the article you refer to. I tried several searches but we have millions of articles including thousands about football. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:08, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

It is on the main Switzerland country page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.38.43 (talk) 18:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Right. At Switzerland#Sports it says "The nation has won the European Cup on more than one occasion". Maproom (talk) 18:40, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I have removed the false claim.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 18:43, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Turning off the lightbox?

Resolved

I much prefer heading to the file page instead of getting an on-page preview of the image. Is it possible to turn off this thing? I couldn't find anything in preferences to do so. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

It's at preferences > Appearance > Files > Enable Media Viewer. Uncheck the box and save preferences. SpinningSpark 18:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Pfft, how on earth did I miss that? Facepalm Thanks! - Purplewowies (talk) 22:17, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Teesside University's motto

In the article of Teesside University, it says in the infobox that the motto of this uni is Facta non-verba (or Deeds Not Words in English). But in the section of history, it says the uni 'changed its logo and adopted the motto "Inspiring success"' in 2009. Which is correct?--淺藍雪^❉ 18:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Please ask that question on the talk page Talk:Teesside University. The infobox should probably be updated. However, there is a problem with the reference about the logo and motto change. The reference is probably supposed to be to a local newspaper, but instead is to the Wikipedia article about the newspaper, which is a circular reference. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:41, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I've raised those issues on the talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:45, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Robert, it's not a circular reference. Linking the name of a journal to the Wikipedia article about a journal within a reference from that journal is quite normal and a common citation style (although personally, I don't favour it for the very confusion you have just found yourself in). Essentially, it's an offline reference. SpinningSpark 01:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)