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April 5

Charles Spencer, 9th Earl Spencer

Ref number 4 is in red and looks wrong to me - I did not do this edit. 123.2.36.6 (talk) 04:08, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

The red there does not indicate an error, it's just what's called a "redlink". The name of the publication is given as London Speaker Bureau, with a link to a Wikipedia article about the Bureau, though no such article has yet been written. Maproom (talk) 07:24, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

• There was such an article, but it was deleted. See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Speaker Bureau. -Arch dude (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Antoine Salvanh

Hi,

I've got lost in this page translated from French with the mingling of 2 models {{Ref}} and {{break}} . "Remark 1 and Remark 2" in the text. End result : the text doesn't appear in the References section.

I've tried various combinations but couldn't find the right one. Could someone please work it out? Thanks in advance. LouisAlain (talk) 08:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@LouisAlain: I have replaced the </br> before the 2nd 'remark' with a <ref> tag. The 2nd inst. now appears in the refs. Please say if this has not fixed things. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 10:14, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

It has! that's what was needed. Thank you very much. LouisAlain (talk) 10:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia error message

I recieved this today but I have never ever used your site for editing anything .

  April 2015

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ClueBot NG makes very few mistakes, but it does happen. If you believe the change you made was constructive, please read about it, report it here, remove this message from your talk page, and then make the edit again. For help, take a look at the introduction. The following is the log entry regarding this message: Batman (military) was changed by 118.210.73.120 (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.970784 on 2015-04-09T00:30:10+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.73.120 (talk)

Hello, that message was three yesars ago. IP addresses (which Wikipedia uses to identify anonymous editors) can change frequently... sometimes even on a daily basis. Your provider will allocate an IP address each time you log on. The best way to avoid seeing messages intended for other people is to create an account, which is simple to do, is free, you can still remain anonymous via your username and will allow greater editing privileges. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Eagleash: The original poster here did not edit Wikipedia and presumably does not intend to do so. So I am not sure suggesting to create an account or reminding that talk page posts must be signed is of great value.

I cannot see in ClueBot's BRFA that notification of IPs has been discussed, so I am going to ask the operators if that behavior is (1) deliberate and (2) uncontroversial. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:20, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

2018 Mountain West Conference football season

In the 2018 NCAA football navbox it's still red link the article was accepted late last night but can you change the link to blue. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:40BD:D18B:1EC0:549E (talk) 13:31, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Could you please give us a wikilink to the page which has the redlink? There isn't a page called 2018 NCAA football or 2018 NCAA football navbox. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:29, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I guess you refer to Template:2018 NCAA Division I FBS football season navbox. The link in the template page to 2018 Mountain West Conference football season is currently blue. Articles using the template are cached and can take time to detect the article exists. A purge of an article will update it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:40, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

You may also find that a redlink was because the article was created with incorrect capitalisation of its title. I have moved the article from 2018 Mountain West Conference Football season to 2018 Mountain West Conference football season. If you find an unexpected redlink you ought to check where it is pointing and check the title of the article in question. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Removing tag about missing references and article deletion

I have added references but the message still appears: 'This article is about a living person and appears to have no references. All biographies of living people must have at least one source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article. If no reliable references are found and added within a seven-day grace period, this article may be deleted. This is an important policy to help prevent the retention of incorrect material. Please note that adding reliable sources is all that is required to prevent the scheduled deletion of this article. For help on inserting references, see referencing for beginners or ask at the help desk. Once the article has at least one reliable source, you may remove this tag.' How do I get rid of it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasialewis (talk • contribs) 13:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kasialewis: You edit the source to remove the template at the top of the page. Please ensure that the refs you have added corroborate the content, that they are reliable and note that the article can still be proposed for deletion by another method if appropriate. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kasialewis: On the assumption that this relates to Charles Alexander Pasternak, please see WP:REFB for a guide to correctly adding references. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:03, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

page protection

Is it possible to apply both semi-protection and pending changes protection on the same page? L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, for admins, the two options on the "page protection" page are handled with two different drop downs, so it is technically feasible to apply both types of protection at the same time; because of the way "pending changes" works here, however, I don't believe it has any practical effect, since we only have the option for PC level 1, which only affects non-autoconfirmed users. Within the software are the capabilities for more fine-tuning of protections, such that it could make a difference, but the way we have options enabled here at en.wikipedia, it has little practical effect. I believe if you sent the expiry dates to different times, it would have the minor effect of blocking all non-AC edits for a time, then falling back to PC protection after that date, but I don't know how often that option is used. So, in summary, yes it is technically feasible, but the way the kinds of protection are used here at en.wikipedia, it is of little practical value to do so. --Jayron32 15:20, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Wrong photo

Search Beatriz Manz: The photo provided by Wikipedia is that of Beatrice Forbes Manz with her publications. How can that be corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.198.181 (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines. --ColinFine (talk) 17:28, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Salted articles

Is there a list of salted articles? Or only admins have access to this? --Jamez42 (talk) 17:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Your link has a link to Special:Protectedtitles which can be seen by everybody. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Table images

I've been working on List of Wales international footballers today but I'm experiencing an issue with adding images alongside the table. For some reason, they're overlapping the table and I'm not sure why. I was basing the table on List of France international footballers and I've tried comparing the two to see what I'm doing wrong but no luck. Is anyone able to point out why they are overlapping? Kosack (talk) 20:29, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kosack: The table on List of Wales international footballers has a notes column in the table that the France table does not have. Your best option would wither be to resize the image within the page so that it appears smaller or get rid of the notes column and present the information in a different place. Template:Efn would probably be one of the best alternative options considering there are only 5 notes and 100 rows. TheDoctorWho (talk) 20:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I just tried that and the problem was still persisting, the image just overlaps the end column even with the notes section removed. Kosack (talk) 20:57, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kosack: Page rendering depends on browser, window size, zoom and other factors. I don't see an issue in Firefox but sometimes in Opera which appears to be confused by the second image being wider than the first. I removed some unnecessary column widths. This solves it for me in Opera at my normal settings but the problem returns in a narrow window. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:04, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

When the browser does layouting, it can only account for the first floating element (image) next to the table. Therefore, if images following it are wider than that first element, they might overlap with the table. It's one of the quirks of the web standards. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 06:55, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Magazine as citation

Hello everyone. I have an article on a magazine that I could use as a citation on an article, but since magazines don't have serial numbers like books, how could I use it as a citation? Thanks. Gidev the Dood^(Talk) 23:54, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Gidev: Please see Template:Cite magazine. Eagleash (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Thank you a lot! :) Gidev the Dood^(Talk) 15:34, 6 April 2018 (UTC)