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August 21

Uploading images to wikipedia

Hi there,

Could you please assist with uploading images to a wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanishalafitani (talk • contribs) 01:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Tanishalafitani: First, get the image file of the picture onto your computer. If you are the photographer who took the picture, then you own the copyright and you may upload it and license it to us. If you do not own the copyright then you cannot upload it (with very few exceptions). To upload, click on the "upload file" link in the left-hand column of this or any other page, and follow the instructions. Come back here with a specific question if you have difficulties at any point in the process. -Arch dude (talk) 02:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

That link provides a further link to the Commons upload wizard at Commons:Special:UploadWizard. If you own the copyright, then it is usually best to upload an image to Commons and link to it there, rather than directly to Wikipedia. Dbfirs 13:29, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Page deletion

Hi there, I want to know why my page production, cost and pricing was deleted? I chose this topic from the list of Most Wanted Articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Canon (talk • contribs) 04:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Omer Canon: Your page has not been deleted it is at Draft:Production, costs, and pricing. What was deleted was the redirect created when you moved the content from article space to draft. A redirect from mainspace to draft cannot exist. The red link in your contributions gives a link to the reason. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:47, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, one more thing... so this means that my page is still pending for review right? if not then how should I move this for review and how should I get this published? Omer Canon (talk) 05:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, there is an AfC review notice in place. Eagleash (talk) 05:40, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Eagleash For sure I will replace those references. After replacing them what should I do to get it published? Here I mean to say that which indication will let the editor know that this is ready to be reviewed and published? Thanks for your help again Omer Canon (talk) 08:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Canon (talk • contribs) 06:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Please, any update?

Omer Canon (talk) 09:53, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

As it says in the review box on your draft: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,633 pending submissions waiting for review." If you have the draft on your watch list you will see there when it is updated. Usually a reviewer will also give feedback on your user talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

How to update company logo on company page

Hello,

The logo for the company, '3D Repo' needs to be updated on the company page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_Repo

The updated logo image can be found here: https://3drepo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/White-on-Blue-High-Res-Logo.png

The company notes the official logo on this page: https://3drepo.com/about/?preview_id=9164&preview_nonce=0f50326f9f&_thumbnail_id=-1&preview=true

I cannot upload the image myself as I am a new user to Wikipedia.

How can I update the logo image?

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holygeorge8 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that the previous logo had its copyright released, so I've uploaded a low-resolution image of the new logo direct to Wikipedia under a Fair use justification. I assume that the company does not wish the logo to be free to use by rivals as Drjozefdobos (the company founder who designed the logo?) claimed when uploading the previous versions to Commons. The new logo should now show in the article and may not be used elsewhere. Google will catch up when their crawlers next find the article. Dbfirs 14:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Dbfirs: Neither the new logo nor the old one seems likely to be elegible to copyright per commons:Commons:Threshold of originality. Therefore, it can (should?) be transferred to Commons with the commons:Template:PD-textlogo template. (Also, even it if was copyrighted, if someone with the authority to release a CC-BY-SA uploaded it to Commons, the license cannot be revoked.) Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I appreciate that American copyright and trade mark rules are less rigorous than those in the UK, but I'm British, and so is the company, so I was following British rules to be on the safe side. The earlier logos were more complex, so if I was founder and designer, I wouldn't want them used by rivals. Thanks for the advice. I agree that the current logo is too simple for copyright. Dbfirs 16:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't want [my logos] used by rivals - yet another nitpick: I think you are confusing copyright ("don't distribute my creative work without authorization"), which is a problem for us on Wikipedia as we distribute media files, with trademark ("don't use a visual identity similar to mine"), which is not (we are not pretending the logo to be ours, and we are not in the business of selling stuff related to their company). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

edits got rejected

I just updated the wikipedia page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Allen to include more details about his life and his work, and the edits got rejected by clcstudent with a message that they "did not appear constructive". My edits were largely bringing the wikipedia page in line with publically available information about his life, adding substantial information and references and making it consistent with the german wikipedia page about him. My edits got fully reverted to the old version - while I think the new version is (was) considerable better. Can I just "undo" the revert? Or do the edits need to be approved by someone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwstauk (talk • contribs) 17:08, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I suggest that you ask the editor who reverted your changes why he considered them unconstructive; it isn't obvious to me why he thought so, because you did provide references. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• Edits do not usually need to be "approved" but if someone undoes them, as in this case, the next step is to discuss on the article's talk page, or the talk page of the user who reverted, and have a discussion about why you think the content should be added. (I will say as an aside here that the use of rollback to revert the edits does not seem appropriate.) Crow^Caw 17:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• thanks for the help. I can't reply directly to User:CLCStudent, because their talk page is protected, so will follow the advice to discuss on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwstauk (talk • contribs) 17:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Pwstauk: You are a new editor whose only edits were to a single article, and those edits included removal of a reference and addition of unreferenced material. This is a pattern that very frequently signals promotional editing, and those brave and overworked souls on the "recent changes patrol" often revert them out of hand (being far too overworked to perform a detailed analysis) and depend on the WP:BRD process to resolve any resulting problem. In this case, The substance of your edits looks very good. However, Wikipedia does require that you cite reliable sources. If you have problems with adding your sources, look at Wikipedia:referencing for beginners, and then come back here if you need further help. And please do not give up, we need your help. -Arch dude (talk) 17:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Arch dude: - I can't see any sign of a ref being removed. Some text (with its supporting ref) was moved from one place to another, but which ref do you think was removed? - David Biddulph (talk) 17:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

EDITING MY OWN PAGE

How do i edit a page that does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill cage (talk • contribs) 22:20, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Bill cage I'm not sure what you are referring to; do you mean your user talk page? 331dot (talk) 22:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Bill cage: I added some basic information on your talk page. Please do not attempt to create an article about a non-notable subject: that just leads to frustration. -Arch dude (talk) 22:27, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@331dot never mind. i was trying to ask how to create my own article, but i ended being an idiot and asking it in a very stupid way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill cage (talk • contribs) 17:12, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Emmett Till

Hello,

I am a UCSC student and I recently worked on a research paper where the topic was of my choosing, I chose to write about Emmett Till. I was very surprised (as much surprised as America's current AND PAST politics continue to surprise me - not) to find the OBVIOUS misinformation regarding Emmett Till's murder. He was NOT lynched. I'll say it one more time, HE WAS NOT LYNCHED. This FOURTEEN YEAR OLD BOY was kidnapped from his family's home, BRUTALLY TORTURED, BEATEN, HIS EYES WERE GOUGED OUT, HE WAS NAKED, HE WAS SHOT, AND THE HE WAS HOG TIED WITH WIRE BEFORE BEING THROWN IN A RIVER. It is INCREDIBLY disheartening that people who google search his name will be met with blatant LIES and MISINFORMATION. Let us be truthful when describing the injustices of AMERICA'S ARROGANT AND RAMPANT WHITE SUPREMACY. DO NOT ALTER FACTS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayegibs (talk • contribs) 23:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Ayegibs, that's a discussion for that articles talk page (which I see you've already posted the same thing to). Lynching a type of murder. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:15, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Chris Bearde

I have editor permissions, but couldn't see how to edit or link the banner box at the top of this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Bearde

Contact me for a copy if this isn't good enough

Attached - a photo of Chris Bearde taken in Jan 19673 - which may add to the appeal of that page. (He was a family friend of my father in the sixties) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcoop (talk • contribs) 23:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

​Done – Thjarkur (talk) 23:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)