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January 9

Write an article

Can you please write an article about Cyndia Saint-Cyr Montès, musical artist? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.48.79.119 (talk) 02:03, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

WP:RA ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 05:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Potternewton

Ref number 3 would easily suffice for the "citations needed' which are in the lead of this article. But ref 3 at the moment (an official UK Government site) is down. Please remove the "citations needed" if you think they should be removed and repair ref number 3. Appreciated 175.33.45.21 (talk) 05:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey there. I presume you mean what is now ref number 4, as that's the official government site and used to be ref number 3. If so, then yeah, it looks like the link doesn't work anymore; however, using archive.org, I found an archive for the URL. I have now added the archived link to the article using the archive-url and archive-date parameters of {{cite web}}, although I'll leave you or someone else to deal with the citation needed tags as I'm not familiar with the subject nor the article. In the future, it's fairly easy to find and add these archives yourself; just go to the URL I linked, search for the dead URL, and see what there is. I hope this helps you out and thank you for your work improving the article. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 14:31, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I am confused - have stuffed up ref number 1 - Please fix up and leave in quote if you can. Sincerely thanks 175.33.45.21 (talk) 00:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

You set the access date to the future (year 2190). WelpThatWorked fixed it for you. I suggest you take the time to proofread your edits and use the preview button before committing, and if you do create an error, please work to fix it yourself since you have made this error before. Perhaps the tutorial at Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing_sources will help? RudolfRed (talk) 01:14, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Ping Pong WelpThatWorked (talk) 02:03, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

I have gotten reference 12 all wrong. Please fix if you can and leave in quote. Appreciated. 175.33.45.21 (talk) 07:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

 Fixed ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 07:13, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of MOGUL.sg page due to 'copyright infringement'

Hi there,

This is pertaining to my press release that was sent from my company- MOGUL.sg and used on my reference page which was cited in my article. As the press release belongs to MOGUL.sg, and was seeded out to all media and partners, why is it deleted under copyright infringement if the source was from MOGUL.sg? Please let me know how will I be able to put up information on MOGUL.sg? Do I need an email stating that GeoWorks has used the press release on their website? or?

Please advise.

Regards, Fred — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frederickyao77 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

See WP:DCM for donating copyrighted material, but press releases are not good sources since they are not independent of the company. See WP:RS. Note that as a company employee you have a conflict of interest in writing about your own company. Please read WP:COI. You may also need to comply with WP:PAID. It's really not a good idea to write an article about your own company. Meters (talk) 07:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frederickyao77: Another problem with press releases is that they are almost always promotional; it is the purpose of a press release to promote the issuer. But Wikipedia does not tolerate promotional content. So even if the issue of copyright could be resolved, probably the content could not be used. —teb728 t c 08:19, 9 January 2019 (UTC) I see from your LinkedIn profile that you are VP Brand & Marketing of Mogul.sg. —teb728 t c 08:35, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Desuperscripting

Hi. Could someone explain why this bot desuperscripted? Is this some general policy that I'm unaware of? Thanks in advance and please ping me. Leaderboard (talk) 07:45, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Leaderboard. At Central Board of Secondary Education, PkbwcgsBot changed "Top 1/8^th of passed students" to "Top 1/8th of passed students". That seems to me a clear improvement — I read "1/8th" as "one eighth", but "1/8^th" just looks weird, maybe "one eighthth". Maproom (talk) 07:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply @Maproom:. However, if 5^th is better than 5th, why would 1/8^th be worse than 1/8th? Leaderboard (talk) 08:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Leaderboard: I suspect the bot was trying to apply MOS:ORDINAL, changing "8^th" to "8th". A bit further down that page, though, is MOS:FRAC, "Ordinal suffixes such as -th should not be used with fractions expressed in figures" -- John of Reading (talk) 08:05, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

A better link: Special:Diff/876441398 which clearly shows the changes in question. --CiaPan (talk) 08:33, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Leaderboard, to answer your second question: "8th" (superscripted or not) is "eighth", "1/8" is "one eighth", so "1/8th" (superscripted or not) is "one eighthth", which is in my view wrong with or without the superscripting. But the superscripting makes it worse. Maproom (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you all very much, I think I've understood the idea behind that change. Leaderboard (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

This occurred again in this edit and I fixed it in the next edit. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:17, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Can't edit

I'm new at this. A couple of weeks ago I edited an article. Now I log in to do more and I don't see the pencil icon for edit or the edit tab ANYWHERE. I'm sure there's a simple answer but I can't figure it out! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoeSmithJr (talk • contribs) 12:33, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi RoeSmithJr Welcome to help desk. You need to click on "Edit source" on the top menu, then you will see the "pencil icon" on top right of the page. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 14:19, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@RoeSmithJr: Well, it depends on whether you're on mobile view or desktop view. Is the base URL you are at when you can't find the pencil icon en.wikipedia.org or en.m.wikipedia.org? The difference is quite significant sometimes. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 14:21, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Help

hi im new to and i have done nothing and i keep geting these mesanges saying i might be blocked from editing. Please fix i have done nothing.please respond as soon as posible.

from skymoonfang — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skymoonfang (talk • contribs) 13:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Skymoonfang; where exactly are these messages? I took a look at your talk page and filter log and I'm not seeing anything. Are you using a different account or are these messages in some other place? The latter still seems unlikely as your first edit here was this post to the help desk. If you could be a bit more specific, I'd be happy to help out. Cheers, --SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 14:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Skymoonfang: Do you get those messages when viewing Wikipedia not logged-in? Possibly you use a shared IP address (for example, if you access Internet through a school or company's proxy server)? May be some other anonymous user, who works from the same IP address, made inacceptable edits in Wikipedia, and now you both see messages referring to that bad behaviour... Then the cure is to always use Wikipedia when logged-in so your contributions is always assigned to your user account. --CiaPan (talk) 08:58, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

IP address blocked...

Hello,

Trying to edit content on the Wikipedia pages I get the following message...

"You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: Your username or IP address has been blocked. The block was made by RonaldB. The reason given is Open proxy - Nadere informatie.

   Start of block: 01:43, 4 November 2017
   Expiration of block: infinite
   Intended blockee: 2A02:C7F:0:0:0:0:0:0/32

You can contact RonaldB or another administrator to discuss the block. You cannot use the "Email this user" feature unless a valid email address is specified in your account preferences and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is 2a02:c7f:5629:4b00:591d:723f:bdb4:39c7, and the block ID is #698930. Please include all above details in any queries you make."

No idea what I have done wrong.

Regards,

Estelle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eshuk (talk • contribs) 14:13, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Eshuk: You are likely using a proxy that is free and anyone can use. These were commonly used for evading blocks in the past, and so were blocked. Just turn off your Proxy/VPN. WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

If that doesn't work you could try contacting RonaldB on his talk page and asking for IP block exemption on Dutch Wikipedia: Bhunacat10 (talk), 15:37, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@WelpThatWorked: no, I do not use a proxy (server) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eshuk (talk • contribs) 17:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Company details

Hello

I have tried to add our company details to this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_Warrant_holders_of_the_British_Royal_Family#cite_note-4

However the text is now in bold red! Plus I do not know how to add a ref number and link to our website.

Please can you help?

My company is Darville & Son Ltd.

Thank you.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards

Karen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdarville (talk • contribs) 15:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I have corrected your malformatted edit. Please read about conflict of interest and the mandatory provisions regarding paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:53, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Can I search for an edit summary?

Earlier today an editor made a change to an article and I wasn't sure if it was correct or not, so put to the back of my mind to check it later. I've done so, and think it was an unintended error - so have come back to revert but now can't remember the article, nor does the edit summary appear in my watchlist. Obviously it has been edited again since this morning.

Can I search using a keyword that I know appeared in the edit summary to try and track it down? Chaheel Riens (talk) 16:31, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens: If you saw the edit summary in your watchlist earlier today, but can't see it now, you could try ticking "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" in your preferences (Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist) and then redisplaying your watchlist. I don't know how to search for an edit summary in the general case where you don't know the name of the article or the editor. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens: check your browser history. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:04, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Chaheel Riens: go to the page in your browser history, or try one of the steps others have suggested. Go to the edit history, press CTRL+F, enter the keyword and it should appear. WelpThatWorked (talk) 18:23, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Adding Ralph Allen - Canadian Artist

I am hoping to add an article on Ralph Allen, a Canadian Artist... he is 93 years old. He does not seem to listed in the Wikipedia pages.

I have set up an account and loaded various links to support the page.

The issue is, I don't really know what I am doing.

Please let me know if I am doing something wrong.

Brian Coughtrey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Coughtrey (talk • contribs) 19:49, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Brian Coughtrey: Hi, Brian. The very first step is to assure yourself that the artist is notable by our definition. Please see WP:NOTABLE. If you can find the reliable sources needed to establish notability, then rest assured that we can and will help you get the article into Wikipedia by any of several methods. If you cannot establish notabiliy, then no amount of effort on your part or anyone else's can cause an article to remain in Wikipedia: you will be frustrated and you will make of extra work for us. Now, if you do find those reliable sources to establish notability, then please read WP:YFA. If you find it too intimidating or if you are unsure about notability, then please come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 20:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Brian Coughtrey: I have left a welcome message and some hopefully helpful links at your talk page, in response to your help request there. I have also tidied up the sandbox draft a bit...the external links need to be cut back and converted to inline citations where appropriate. (See WP:REFB). Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 21:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I just saw the changes... Thanks so much for the help. Brian coughtrey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Coughtrey (talk • contribs) 21:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Brian Coughtrey: I changed one of your urls to an inline reference for part of the text as an example. Be careful to stick to facts and avoid opinions or mind-reading like His early years represent a powerful reality for him. Be judicious about putting in quotes, it's facts we want, not opinions Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:19, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

jimbleak, I think I am getting this figured out... Any other advice or samples you can tweek to assist in publishing the page?

Brian Coughtrey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian Coughtrey (talk • contribs) 19:03, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

How can I write articles on wikipedia?

I want to write articles in Urdu and read in English so please let me know about this process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohsinalird (talk • contribs) 22:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

If you write an article in Urdu, then it should be published at https://ur.wikipedia.org

Are you asking about Wikipedia:Translation? Dbfirs 22:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)