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July 10

Page on Fernando de la Rúa's presidency needs serious reformatting

The article on the Presidency of Fernando de la Rúa has overly large paragraphs and incorrectly formatted footnotes. Could someone please fix it? Normally I'd try to do this sort of thing myself (at least, when the problem is less complicated), but the whole thing is rather overwhelming to me.--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

@Thylacine24:Based on your questions here, you appear to be more interested in improving the form of articles rather than the contents. Thanks! The form is very important, and we all specialize. I suggest that you take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. This appears to be a project that aligns with what you wish to do. Perhaps you can join that project and introduce yourself on its talk page, and then ask them how to deal with problems like this one where you identify a need for copy editing but are not comfortable with doing the job yourself yet. Please keep up the good work, and if this suggestion does not work out, come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 14:29, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Hopefully, I'll get around to it sometime.--Thylacine24 (talk) 21:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

List of alumni of Trinity College, Cambridge

In the "Business" section on this page, could you please help with a link on Francis Martineau Lupton to his actual section on the Lupton family page. I cannot do this.

Also - reference number 10 should have UK Daily Telegraph as the newspaper source. Please put that in as well.

Also - I have totally ruined adding in a file of Francis Martineau Lupton.

Francis Martineau Lupton

Please change name underneath file/photo to "Francis Martineau Lupton, businessman, landowner and politician" - not Frank Lupton - as it says on file now.

Please correct so sorry

Please help if able Thanks so much2001:8003:D9A2:5501:891D:707C:85CB:12C0 (talk) 02:14, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

It's alright. First, to create a Wikilink to a specific section in an article you first put the name of the article followed by a "#" and the name of the section. Like for example [[Lupton family#Francis Martineau Lupton]].

The ref 10 should be fixed as well.

Fixed the issue with Francis Martineau Lupton photo in List of alumni of Trinity College, Cambridge, remember that there can't be a wikilink inside a wikilink.

Fixed the issue with the wrong name appearing. Just [[File:Alderman Francis Martineau Lupton, Esq., of Newton Park Estate.jpg|thumb|upright|Frank Lupton]] to [[File:Alderman Francis Martineau Lupton, Esq., of Newton Park Estate.jpg|thumb|upright|Francis Martineau Lupton]]. Notice how the "last" parameter, the ones in purple are changed, that's how you change the caption. Thanks for the questions! OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 04:43, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

About Reliability of Wikipedia

Is Wikipedia fully reliable? If yes, then what it's reliability percentage. The reason behind asking this question is that, I want to edit Wikipedia articles but before that I want other editors to answer my question. What is the reliability percentage between 0-100%? If it's less than 50% then it will not be the best use of my valuable time to contribute in Wikipedia's article. Thanks. (223.230.163.6 (talk) 06:21, 10 July 2019 (UTC))

Hard to answer and probably differs from area to area and because of other factors. If you like, "as reliable as the last editor who edited it", but that's not entirely true either. See Reliability of Wikipedia, Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia and Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia. But no, WP can not be fully reliable because of it's structure. It can still be pretty good. There is also an argument that no source is fully reliable. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

You can also see Reliability of Wikipedia. Eagleash (talk) 08:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

"A 2005 study by the journal Nature found Wikipedia roughly as accurate as the Encyclopedia Britannica", according to this article on www.livescience.com. Hogyn Lleol (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Lupton family

Please fix ref number 159 which has the incorrect symbol for "copyright" in it. It shouldn't be the @ symbol. please leave in all of eth quote. Thanks 175.32.82.245 (talk) 06:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done Maproom (talk) 07:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Remove 's' from page title

Hi We would like to rename the page Schools of Isolated and Distance Education to School of Isolated and Distance Education (School - singular) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SIDE OTL (talk • contribs) 06:28, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

@SIDE OTL: Who is WE in “We would like to rename the page”...? Are you aware that our Wikipedia:Username policy requires: Your username must represent you as an individual person? --CiaPan (talk) 06:42, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

@SIDE OTL: Page moved, the old location is now a redirect to School of Isolated and Distance Education. --CiaPan (talk) 06:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Reliable source

On the following page information and a source was removed which according to the remover was because the source is not reliable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leon_Krijgsman&diff=905585988&oldid=905526847

Why is this source not reliable?

--Molting (talk) 08:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello Molting! Basically, no wiki is a reliable source on WP, reasons at WP:SELFPUBLISH. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. --Molting (talk) 08:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Finding which articles link to which other articles

Hello. Is there an easy way to find how many articles link to a given article, and which articles they are? FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 08:15, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

FreeKnowledgeCreator, see "What links here" under "Tools" in the column on the left (if you are on a laptop). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:21, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

The link is present in the desktop version of the site. If you use the mobile version then start by clicking "Desktop" at the bottom. You can also use linksto: in the search box, e.g. linksto:"Gary Gygax". This includes a count of search results. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:17, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Lupton family

Ref 145 is all wrong - it is a leather bound book. I am so sorry. Please fix if able. Thanks 175.32.82.245 (talk) 09:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

 Fixed You had 'author:' instead of 'author= '. You really should be able to fix this after what ? four years editing? Also, multiple threads here with the same heading again. Eagleash (talk) 09:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Line 2 removal

We request removal of the second line as it is damaging Mr. Gurnani's reputation - In 2018, he was the highest-paid executive in India according to the Fortune magazine with an annual package of ₹150 Crores. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.151.72.80 (talk) 12:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

You should make this request on the talk page of the relevant article. I'm not sure who "we" is but if you represent this individual, you will need to review WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 12:09, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You haven't told us to which page you are referring, but it is presumably not to this Help Desk. The {{request edit}} template is for use on the talk page of the article for which you are requesting an edit. Note also that a subject's reputation would not necessarily be grounds for removal of text if that text is supported by a reference to a reliable source. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:14, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

For anyone wondering, the article is (I think): C. P. Gurnani Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Apparently yes, User talk:119.151.72.80#Help me! says the same. --CiaPan (talk) 12:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Added a reference to The Economic Times:

"Tech Mahindra CEO CP Gurnani took home Rs 146.19 crore in FY18". The Economic Times. Jul 9, 2018.

CiaPan (talk) 12:34, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Per the above comment, I have marked the help request as indirectly declined by CiaPan. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:20, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Trouble changing title of page for our organization

Hello,

I'm writing to see if you can help me to update the page title for our organization.

The title that one of our members originally created a few years ago is this: Sisters of Notre Dame of Coesfeld. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_of_Notre_Dame_of_Coesfeld

I would like to change the title of our organization's page to Sisters of Notre Dame.

Could you please help me understand how to make that change? Or I could create a new page for our organization since it does not yet exist.

I also tried to contact the editor, User:BonBontheJon, but their talk page doesn't seem to have a place for me to send a message.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tresagowland (talk • contribs) 18:03, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

@Tresagowland: Changing the title of an article requires a page move; you may request a page move at Requested Moves. Since you are a part of the organization you are seeking to edit about, please review the conflict of interest policy as well. 331dot (talk) 18:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

We already have a page at Sisters of Notre Dame. It is a "disambiguation page" that lists all of the pages that would have that name. We cannot place your article at that name. the best we can do is to rename ("move") your page to "Sisters of Notre Dame (Coesfeld)" in accordance with our WP:DISAMBIGUATION conventions. -Arch dude (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Note also that there is no concept of "the editor" of an article. More than 82 million separate individuals have edited Wikipedia, and more than 200,000 of them have edited Wikipedia in the last 30 days. Each of them (including you) have the same rights and responsibilities as editors of all articles, except that an editor with non-wikipedia association with the subject of an article (such as yourself for this article) has a conflict of interest (WP:COI) and should not directly edit an article, but should instead make suggestions on the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 19:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

How to fix a messy dead URL situation?

Hi! In this edit, I tried to fix a citation. The cited URL is now a dead link, that goes to a different Web page. So, I added the Archive URL to it. That citation is used four times in the article. The citation links to the first page of the article. The second page however is what supports some of the content. Unfortunately, the Internet Archive does not have a copy of the second page of the interview (clicking on the link to the second page in the archived version goes to another Web site). So, should the citation be changed to link to the second page of the article, and tagged with "dead URL", or should it be left as is (misleadingly implying that the content can be verified by loading the linked Archive URL)? (The whole interview is available from the social media Web site of KerliPoland fan club, but that seems like a potential copyright violation since I don't see any libre license on the original interview, so I won't link it.) Thank you! —{{u|Goldenshimmer}} (they/their)｜😹｜✝️｜John 15:12｜☮️｜🍂｜T/C 19:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia and Commons file with the same name

Hi. I just uploaded a file on commons that has the same name as a file on Wikipedia. In the article Recess (TV series), only the Wikipedia file would be inserted if I type the name in the infobox. How do I insert the commons file? Thank you. DanWarpp (talk) 21:08, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

@DanWarpp: You will need to rename/move one of the files. If the files have the same name it will always pick the local one. RudolfRed (talk) 21:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)