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Putin's Palace on Cape Idokopas, Black See, Russia.

04/03/2020

Dear Sir, In 1991-1992 I did plan it and set budget of US$29 to US$36 millions to start it. In 2009 I was there to see work. It is build with my money and by my order. Now I am retired and want to have my house for me? I am US CItizen, Retired. IGOR N. LOBOTSKY, President, CEO, CFO and 100% Owner of INL International, Inc., Milford, CT 06460 USA, 1998 - 2016, Global Trade and Venture Capital Company (Coal, Oil, Gas, Metals, Bank, etc.) in USA, Ukraine, Russia and other countries. My Global Venture Capital Investment Portfolio from 1991 to present are over US$150+bill. cash, and I am 100% Owner of it. Please start changing your information about so called "Dvorets Putina" or any other names are given to it. Please call me in USA: [redacted] and we will talk about it.

Best Regards - Igor N. Lobotsky ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IGOR N. LOBOTSKY (talk • contribs) 01:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@IGOR N. LOBOTSKY: our operational model is to crowdsource our encyclopedia using anonymous editors. Therefore, it is a fundamental policy to only use information from published reliable sources (WP:RS), not information from private sources such as you supplied here. If this information has been published in such a source, please place the information, together with a reference to the source, on the talk page of the article you think is belongs in. Please do not put personal contact information here (or in any other open place on the Internet). Nobody will contact you because that is not how Wikipedia works. -Arch dude (talk) 02:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism within Umzimkhulu Local Municipality article

This edit: [1] appears unambiguously to be vandalism or misguided at least. A simple "undo" can not be performed. Can somebody fix it, please? Thanks. 2606:A000:1126:28D:45FB:B8D6:454E:EF01 (talk) 04:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi IP. I restored the revision. You're welcome. In the future, if you cannot undo a potentially harmful edit, simply click on the timestamp of the good revision and click on "Edit", then click on "Publish" noting that you "restored the last good revision" in the edit summary. Aasim 04:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing something, I disagree. Generally, the reason you cannot "undo" an edit is because there have been other edits to the same material afterwards. If you were to re-publish the older version of the article, you are effectively performing a rollback, reverting the newer (and possibly valid) edit as well. This should not be done without manual review and potential re-integration of those changes. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, posting about it here seems like a reasonable solution, though editors are encouraged to try to fix things themselves if they can instead of asking others to do it. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 10:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Translations from other languages of wikipedia to english and vice versa

Is there any way to request for something to be translated? The example I'm using here is Windeby I, where-in the German page has a lot more information on Windeby I, that is inaccessible to Exclusively english speaking readers. I am asking, or rather suggesting in the offchance this hasnt happened before or hasnt been sorted, that is there (or there should be) some way to request for something to be translated. this request goes along the lines wanting an english encyclopedia that contains all the information available. I dont know whether this exists or not, please tell me if it does or not, or explain why it does not exist. Thank you for your time if you do respond to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukethecat2003 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Answered at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Translations from other languages of wikipedia to english and vice versa. Please only post questions in one place. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Use

Hey !!! I'm Tanisha. New user. I wanna know that how should I can use Wikipedia in a right way? Tanisha priyadarshini (talk) 06:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@Tanisha priyadarshini: Please see the welcome message on your talk page (User talk:Tanisha priyadarshini), especially the "Getting Started" section. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 10:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey ALANM1!!!🙋 Thanks for informing me about it .👋✌ Tanisha priyadarshini (talk) 15:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

To Editors

I am on Wikipedia since more than a year and i am creating pages taking part in editing voluntarily. on 20th March i created the page Draft:Ayesha Chundrigar but it was denied due to mistakes such as grammar mistakes, layout etc. the page was fixed on same day but it is pending since then, Ayesha Chundrigar was live on CNN and she gave interview on 30th March 2020, i have added the reference of CNN yesterday and other TV channels. The person wikipedia should be move to namespace as it is passing Wikipedia notability. Can any editor look into my request and move it to mainspace?

Thanks

Memon KutianaWala (talk) 07:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

You have resubmitted it for review. As it says in the brown box at the foot of the draft: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,317 pending submissions waiting for review." --David Biddulph (talk) 10:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Memon KutianaWala, some advice. When your draft is eventually reviewed, the most important issue will be whether it cites several independent sources with in-depth discussion of the subject, so as to establish that she is notable. I've checked the first four references, and they're all based on what the subject said, and so not independent. I haven't checked the rest, so I don't know whether there are some that do help to establish her notability. But please be aware that there's a serious backlog in reviewing drafts, and reviewers are under pressure to deal with as many drafts as they can. A reviewer who checks the first four references in your draft may well think "I don't know if this draft establishes its subject's notability; but with 16 more references to check through, I can find better uses for my time. I'll leave it in the waiting list and find an easier one to review." So, if you don't have sources that establish the subject, you need to find some and add them (and remove most or all of the others). If you have in fact cited several such sources, you can reduce the workload on the reviewers, and the likely waiting time, by removing all the references that do nothing to help establish notability. Maproom (talk) 17:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Maproom

Thanks for the response actually i have added urdu references too such as urdu voice of america, dawn tv, hum news and samaa tv. i have removed it and added dawn english newspaper, tribune, daily pakistan newspaper. and now its ok the article tone is already fixed. Ayesha Chundrigar Foundation (ACF) is actually a largest animal rescue service in Pakistan and (the word largest) is being mentioned in many reputable news sources.

Memon KutianaWala (talk) 08:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Memon KutianaWala, you still have 15 references. And they still start with four that aren't about the subject, they're reporting what she said. If you want to get the draft accepted, and you've found four good references, just keep those, and get rid of all the worthless ones. All of them, not just a few. That way, a reviewer will be easily able to check that you've established notability. (You can add the others back in afterwards, if you like.) Maproom (talk) 11:09, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Maproom

I have removed non notable and added few more please check there are many references in urdu too but i didn't added that. kindly check and let me know as dawn and tribune are top newspapers of Pakistan.

Memon KutianaWala (talk) 16:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

You've trimmed it to six references, which is good. But all six are reporting what she said, rather than writing about her. I wonder if it might be easier to establish that her Foundation is notable, and write about that instead? I've found some English-language sources which are about the Ayesha Chundrigar Foundation, and seem to be independent. Maproom (talk) 19:17, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Edit Wikipedia

Hi Sir, I hope you are fine. Sir recently I was trying to add an external link to Wikipedia but it gives an error. Sir please can you help me with this. I will be very thankful to you. Regards, Ahmed Tahir — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvrealnews (talk • contribs) 10:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Your edit was prevented because it was adding a link that contained your username, which is that of a website and not permitted. As such, and because your edit was spam, I have blocked your account. Please see your user talk page for instructions on how to proceed. 331dot (talk) 10:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Manoj Sarkar

Hi

I have created new article on Manoj Sarkar(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manoj_Sarkar) please have a look and help me to make it more correct. Please Guide me on it. The article is not showing on google search. How to make it visible? Sukant Kadam (talk) 10:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)Sukant9993

Creating an Wikipedia page

i am new here, can anyone help me, how to create page for celebrity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Therahulmishra1997 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@Therahulmishra1997: You can find instructions on how to create an article that won't be rejected or deleted in this link. It's part of a guide I wrote that covers a variety of issues new users face. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Uploading an image

I am trying to upload an image of myself, for my wiki entry. The image is copyrighted to myself but it won't allow me to upload it. It is questioning whether I have copyright over the image. Please advise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cooper_(barrister) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JCQCBR ([[User talk:=== Example title ===R#top|talk]] • contribs) 12:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@JCQCBR: An image would normally be in the copyright of the photographer. Assuming this is not a 'selfie', can you clarify your copyright claim? Possibly the best way to upload an image is via Commons which should guide you through the licensing issues. Please remember that by licensing it to Wikipedia, it can be reused by others as long as they attribute it correctly. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 12:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, JCQCBR. Please also read about Wikipedia's policy on editing with a conflict of interest, and refrain from directly editing Wikipedia's article about you. I suggest you also look for some indepedent published sources which talk about you at some length, and mention them in an edit request on the talk page, because at present there is nothing in the article John Cooper (barrister) that demonstrates that you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. --ColinFine (talk) 13:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Does WP:JUDGE apply here? I seem to remember a discussion (several years ago now) that considered QCs were typically thought to be notable. Blowed if I can find it though! Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn't have thought JUDGE applied, Eagleash. Cooper may well be notable, given that we have articles on two of his cases. But the article doesn't currently establish it, and I've no urge to go looking for the sources. --ColinFine (talk) 14:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, no worries; just thought I'd mention it. Thanks Eagleash (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

King Faisal the second of Iraq was crowned in 1953 and not 1935. I witnesed the event as when I was a student 13 years old

In 1953 the coronation of King Faisal the second took place in the city of Baghdad, I was 13 years old when I witnessed him rolling in the royal carriage through Rasheed street. I WAVED ENTHUSIASTICLY BUT UNFORTUNATELY HE DID NOTLOOK MY Direction. Please correct the coronation year in your (at this day) article to read 2953 not 1935. Thak you. Ahmed Ibrahim Fadhli — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.243.40.96 (talk) 15:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Our article is Faisal II of Iraq. It correctly states that the king was born in 1935 and became king under a regency in 1939 when his father died. The regency ended in 1953 and he became actual head of state at that time, but his was King starting in 1939. -Arch dude (talk) 15:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, there might be a bit of a language barrier thing here. In English, a "coronation" is a crowning ceremony, but, for a lot of monarchies, it's not necessary to have a coronation to begin reigning as monarch. This is notably how the British monarchy works: the throne is never vacant, and the Crown passes to the heir apparent the instant the previous monarch no longer reigns (death or abdication). A lot of the other European monarchies don't even bother with coronations at all anymore. Obviously there have been a lot of monarchies throughout history with different laws, but it sounds like Iraq's worked similarly. In such a monarchy, a coronation is just a celebration and doesn't involve any assumption or transfer of power. The article gives the correct date for his coronation, which occurred when he became an adult. You are certainly welcome to improve the article, with reference to reliable sources. Try starting at Help:Contents to learn more about editing, and you're welcome to ask more questions here as well. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 05:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

My edit isn't showing

I edited the Wikipedia profile of Terry Glavin, but my small edit doesn't show up when I'm logged out of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamDEE1745 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

SamDEE1745 According to the article edit history, your edit was reverted by another editor. If you think that your edit was valid, please discuss it on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 19:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Also note that there is not a single "profile" on Wikipedia; Wikipedia has articles. 331dot (talk) 19:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Why is nothing I edit showing up?

I edit a page and save my edit, hit refresh, nothing happens. The old page is still there. My edits are visible in page history and under my contributions but when I go back to the page, the old version is still shown. Still happening with all my 5 edits today, and the oldest edit is already over 2 hours old. What the fuck? 93.136.17.76 (talk) 19:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Same thing with this edit. This has been happening now and then lately but never for hours for every edit I make. 93.136.17.76 (talk) 19:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Your contribution history isn't showing any edits to the main article space apart from a tiny fix to make spaces non-breaking. Creating an account might help. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:46, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

You may have a floating IP, in which case your contributions could be under multiple IPs. Which article did you edit? It would be helpful to others if you kept your language civil as you would in any public forum. Thanks 331dot (talk) 21:54, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

I've edited Homunculus nebula, Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language, Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing and this page. All show up under My contributions when I look at the page. I guess it's not that important if the rest of you can see the page with the non-breaking spaces fix, but I just see the old version and it's pretty annoying. 93.136.17.76 (talk) 09:57, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

As stated before, there appear to be cache update problems at the moment which particularly affect those not logged in. This might be the reason. You might also try to update your browser cache (usually Ctrl + F5). Cheers ⌘ _hugarheimur 21:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Coronavirus vaccine

I've posted a comment on the Coronavirus vaccine article with very important information. Please do research on the topic I suggested and complete the article with this very important information. I'm willing to help you by every means I can. Sorry if my English is not so good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2F08:EA00:BE00:207D:F549:5FD:74C6 (talk) 19:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

• If that's true then it will be big news. As soon as it is, and major news outlets have reported on it, then we'll write about it here. We don't publish things like that until multiple reliable sources do. Crow^Caw 20:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Why is census2011.co.in on the spam blacklist?

I believe this would be a useful site for references about Indian locations, just as us census data is used for us places.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 20:26, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Naddruf, it was originally added to the blacklist at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/May 2019#onefivenine.com, based on this discussion where it was determined they were not reliable sources. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 21:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Wiki content translation loading problem

Hello, i am using Wiki content translation. So far everything was good. But from yesterday the article that i have drafted, because i did not want to publish a portion of the original content of the article, does not load so i can complete the translation. Now i have two drafted articles of which i can not enter to complete them and publish them. What could be the problem? Thank you in advance.Професор 18+ (talk) 20:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Професор 18+. Your account has made not edits to English Wikipedia before this one. Perhaps you are working in another Wikipedia? If so, we cannot help here at en-wiki: each Wikipedia is an independent project, with its own systems and policies. --ColinFine (talk) 21:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Well yes, i am translating from English to Macedonian. i thought wiki content translation was a universal thing. Ok, i got it.Професор 18+ (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Draftspace to Namespace

Hi, is it mandatory for an article in user Draftspace to be requested for peer review before moving to Mainspace ? Or one can move it directly to Main Namespace? Thanks. Santoshdts (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Santoshdts, you are not required to have the article reviewed once you are autoconfirmed, however, if you are new to writing articles you are strongly recommended to. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 21:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

If you are referring to Draft:2020 coronavirus pandemic super-spreaders, as this is a very topical issue and likely to attract a good deal of attention, I would also recommend that it goes through the AfC system rather then moving it to mainspace. Eagleash (talk) 21:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Minnehaha county south dakota

The term "Minnehaha" comes from the Lakota Language meaning "Laughing Waters" and not "rapid water" as described in this article ..

Thank you .. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.107.151.49 (talk) 21:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

If you have a reliable pulished source that says this, you are welcome to start a discussion on Talk:Minnehaha County, South Dakota. However, I have just added a citation supporting the existing claim, so you will need a strong source. --ColinFine (talk) 21:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

After locating via Wikipedia someone whose personal background would have been helpful in revealing that we are related, there was nothing noted.How do I find out more.?

After locating via Wikipedia someone whose personal background would have been helpful in revealing that we are related, there was nothing noted. If he is indeed related to someone in particular, then it would solve my problem. Other than his successful business pursuits, there is nothing personally noted such as family background, marriage, children, parents, etc. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhodatwo (talk • contribs) 23:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

@Rhodatwo: When it comes to living (and recently deceased) people, Wikipedia's sourcing standards are extremely strict and favor privacy -- see WP:BLP for more info. As for long-dead individuals, the more time passes, the less info anyone is to have on them. If background info for a person (living or dead) is not already in our article, it's unlikely we ever will have it (or at least not on a time scale I assume you'd want). We're not a phone book, social media website, or genealogy site at any rate. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:17, 4 April 2020 (UTC)