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August 6

help for the final step to publish my wikipedia article Treehouse135 (talk) 10:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

hey there!

I just finished my draft for my Wikipedia article but I'm not sure how I can proceed to publish it. I have already clicked on the button 'publish page' and so my article is now in my section 'contributions'. However I am not sure how I can finish publishing it since there is no button on my account where I can create the online link or where I can submit my article for review. I already researched a lot on how to proceed but I am sadly stuck. Also the drop-down option 'more' when I work on my article is not available on my account. Could you please provide me with the information on how I can publish my article.

Many Thanks, Treehous135 Treehouse135 (talk) 10:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Treehouse135 "Publish changes" should be understood to mean simply "save changes", it does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit your draft for review, click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button on the draft to do so. 331dot (talk) 10:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Printing The Signpost

Hi all. I was wondering if there was an easy way to print out the Signpost newspaper. I find it's much easier to read physically but I failed to find a setting to print out a tabloid/A4 version. Is this a feature?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Squid45 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Squid45: this page - Help:Printing - explains how to print pages on Wikipedia, which may be of interest to you. Seagull123 Φ 11:03, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Need help with archiving on Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling, I messed up when setting up MiszaBot

There are two problems as far as I can see. I copied from an established talk page and didn't reset the counter = 1. After the first archive it created Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 21. Also the archived page is not showing up in the talk page archive template. Possibly the two issues are related, but I have spent a few hours trying to research this and am making zero headway. I don't think I am going to be able to solve this without help. Thank you. Ward20 (talk) 13:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

In was able to figure out I needed to undo the archive and reset the counter = 1, so it should create a proper numbered archive. This leaves Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 21 still existing. Will it work to now just add a "Delete Page-error template" to get an admin to delete the page? Ward20 (talk) 15:23, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I have moved Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 21 to Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 1. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:21, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Ward20 (talk) 19:28, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

What Happened To A Page - Deleted?

How do I find out why a page I contributed and was on Wikipedia for over a year was deleted? The page is "Glenn McDonald (musician)". Where can I find Notes or Talk for the deleted page? Does the deleted page exist in an archive? Nozydoggy (talk) 13:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Nozydoggy It was deleted in April as an uncontested Proposed Deletion. You can view the reason for the deletion by clicking Glenn McDonald (musician); if you wish to contest this, you may do so at Requests for Undeletion. 331dot (talk) 13:49, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

OK Thanks, but when I click Glenn McDonald (musician) , comes back as The Page Does Not Exist. How do I find the reason for deletion? Nozydoggy (talk) 13:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

A red box should appear with the deletion reason, but I will copy it here: "Expired PROD, concern was: doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO. The one inline citation is a deadlink. The book in the References section is classified as fiction here. I've found a few passing mentions of him, but he's not included at AllMusic, Penguin Guide to Jazz, canadianjazzarchive or other places I'd expect a notable (Canadian) jazz musician to be." 331dot (talk) 13:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

For future reference, Nozydoggy, if you want to track down a deleted article, go to Special:log/delete, and then enter the name of the article in the "Target" box. It gives the message 331dot repeated above. --ColinFine (talk) 14:22, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Edit to Wandering Jew Plant

Hi, I tried to edit the common name "Wandering Jew" for the plant to add that is could also refer to the Jewish people's ability walk the desert, survive, thrive, and their refusal to be contained or controlled; which are much like the characteristics for this beautiful plant.

I am Jewish, and I'm trying to stop the use of the word Jew as a slur. So many of us consider the common name "wandering Jew" to mean what I've put above, and reject the other origin that mocks our religion.

I edited the page but my edit was removed.

Please re-edit the page to include this other definition alongside the cruel one, as an alternative and as a way to honor Jewish people, instead of degrade them.

"Jew" should not be a slur, and is only seen as such because anti-semites made it so. Help us reclaim this term please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.87.143.25 (talk) 15:24, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I sympathize, but Wikipedia documents the usage that is reported in reliable sources, not the usage you want it to. If you can find such a usage reported in reliable sources (WP:RS), then you can add it. Wikipedia not a venue for advocacy: see WP:NOT. -Arch dude (talk) 15:46, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Photo upload

hi. I just registered to upload a photo of my father on his page. But i cannot find option to upload the photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emin 251972 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Emin 251972: as you can see from the response below, it can be fairly complicated for new editors to upload images. If you want to email me at the link on the left of my user page User:Timtempleton where it says "email this user", I can try to help you. But I must warn you ahead of time, if it's an old picture it may be hard to determine who owns the copyright. You will likely have to discuss over email with the volunteers at the Open-source Ticket Request System (OTRS). [[1]] (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:10, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Photo Update to Wikipedia page

I represent a client with a Wikipedia article and would like to update her photo. I understand that there are copyright issues, and I have full reproduction permission. How do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B0A1:95BE:9D86:3089:45F:E2A7 (talk) 16:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

First, you must create an account, as only logged in users can upload images. Second, you will need to review and formally comply with the paid editing policy since you state that you represent a client. Before you can upload an image, you need to become autoconfirmed, meaning that your account must be at least four days old and have at least 10 edits. Once it is, you may follow the instructions given on this page. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

As 331dot pointed out, it can be fairly complicated for new editors to upload images, especially if there's a conflict of interst. If you want to email me at the link on the left of my user page User:Timtempleton where it says "email this user", I can try to help you. You will need to have proof that you own the copyright for the photo, or the photographer him/herself will have to send permission, to satisfy the volunteers at the Open-source Ticket Request System (OTRS). [[2]] TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Please also be aware that "full reproduction permission" is insufficient. We cannot accept an image unless it is released under the CC-BY-SA copyright license. Only the copyright holder (almost always the photographer) can license the copyright. -Arch dude (talk) 18:46, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I also forgot to mention that you will have to register an account in order to use the email system. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:26, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Flagging an irrelevant reference

Is there a suitable template with which to flag a reference that appears to bear no relation to the content of an article? (I'm looking at this article.)--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:29, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Shantavira. I think you are looking for {{failed verification}}. --ColinFine (talk) 18:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

That will do nicely, thank you.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Zerem Freier temp value

Hello,

I wrote a value about 'Zerem Freier' (my father) under my user. Can you please move it to the values area?

Thanks, Micha Dror DrorMicha (talk) 19:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@DrorMicha: I have moved the page to Draft:Zerem Freier for now as your userpage is not intended to prepear drafts. This page curently lacks any form of verfyability and therefore currently fails WP:NPERSON. We don't use plain external links in the article text. I will shortl leave a message at your userpage containing more information. When all issiues have been adressed, please hit Submit your draft for review! Its not adviseable to move the page to article space yourself, even if you could do that at some point. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 19:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Appreciate your help. Thanks, Micha Dror DrorMicha (talk) 19:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Possible Source of Editing Without Meaning found in a wikipedia page

I found that the wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toho_Cinemas infobox is disappeared replaced with a mysterious link. Can any of the admin can look into this page for guidance?--EnshrineSnowVista (talk) 20:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Y Done. Looks like possible vandalism. Maineartists (talk) 20:10, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

citations

I have been told that being an eyewitness to an event is not a good enough citation. That you prefer second and third hand information. Is that true? If it is, then all of Wikipedia is questionable — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.18.141.33 (talk) 20:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

We require reliably published information. That does not guarantee that it is true (even edited sources can make mistakes), but it allows readers to go to the source for it. Unpublished information is never acceptable in a Wikipedia article, because a reader has no way of verifying it. See verifiability. --ColinFine (talk) 21:29, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Please read WP:NOT and WP:V. We are an encyclopedia, not a news source. We are also crowdsourced with no mechanism, and no desire, to validate the identity or veracity of contributors. Therefore, everything in Wikipedia must be verifiable in reliable sources. You are free to find anything in Wikipedia or anywhere else on the Internet "questionable", and I hope you do. -Arch dude (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)