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June 19

Change the content

With all the BAME and BLM protests. It’s time to reword ‘discovered’ Vasco de’Gama was a trader and didn’t discover India. As India was already discovered by kings and maharajah. He was the first westerner to enter its lands to trade. Just as Columbus didn’t find America; but started trade with the natives and settled in an already discovered land. Time to change these Old ideas and words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.150.51 (talk) 00:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

You're better off discussing on the talk page, but I don't see anything that says he discovered India. Everything I see gives him credit for opening the trade routes, which he clearly did. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:33, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Link to Netflix

Would it be considered spam (or otherwise improper) to add a link in 'External ;inks' section to an episode on Netflix? -- On articles about Medal of Honor recipients who are featured on Medal of Honor (TV series) (each episode is specifically about one individual). 107.15.157.44 (talk) 00:59, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

I'd avoid adding them, per the policy against external links requiring subscriptions, since they are of limited use to many readers. See WP:ELREG. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. 107.15.157.44 (talk) 01:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Merge?

There used to be an article: Death of Abigail Taylor. I haven't looked at it in quite some time. I tried to look at it today. I can't quite tell what happened to it. But, I think it was voted to "merge" into a different article: Virginia Graeme Baker Pool and Spa Safety Act. However, where is the "merge"? The latter article makes no mention whatsoever of Abigail Taylor or the death of Abigail Taylor. How do we correct this situation? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:29, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: There was a discussion here. Eagleash (talk) 03:36, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I now see that. However, the consensus was to "merge" the one article into the other article. Where is the "merge"? The Virginia Graeme Baker Pool and Spa Safety Act article makes no mention whatsoever of Abigail Taylor or the death of Abigail Taylor. How do we correct this situation? Thanks. I assume that a consensus of "merge the article" means something very different than a consensus to "delete the article altogether". No? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:10, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

If you look at the history of the target article you will see that the merge was indeed conducted, but it would have been useful if a {{redirect}} hatnote had been added to show the redirect from Death of Abigail Taylor. There was, however, a subsequent discussion Talk:Virginia Graeme Baker Pool and Spa Safety Act#Merge from Death of Abigail Taylor which may have partly confused the issue. Subsequently an IP removed the Taylor content from where it had been put during the merge. You could suggest, at the target article's talk page, that the relevant content be reinserted, reminding them of the agreement at the original AFD, but perhaps adding extra wording to indicate the context. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Looking for our guidelines on trademarks

What criteria should we use to decide that, for example, band-aid is or isn't a generic term for any adhesive bandage, that vaseline is or isn't a generic term for petroleum jelly, or that pampers is or isn't a generic term for diapers? Searching for answers, I found List of generic and genericized trademarks and MOS:TM, but I thought we had more specific guidance on this somewhere. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The examples you list are all protected trademarks (and included as such in List of generic and genericized trademarks), not generic terms. Names that can be considered genericized are also listed in the article. I am not aware of any more specific guidance, but such terms are best avoided as many of them are specific to a particular country (especially US vs UK usage).--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:28, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Need to update information in our official wikipedia

I tried to edit content in our official page. But not able to edit it. I need to remove some contents in our page. How can i do. pls help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.46.60.197 (talk) 06:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

You have no "official" page here (see WP:OWNERSHIP). Nor should you edit it yourself, due to WP:conflict of interest issues. However, you can request a change on the article's talk page. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:38, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Presumably this refers to the OP's removal of the 'Controversies' section of Vellore Institute of Technology. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 06:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

weird diff

Why am I not seeing a username on this edit? Does it have something to do with pending changes? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Martha_Stewart&diff=prev&oldid=912482451&diffmode=source Thanks! —valereee (talk) 12:07, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The username is there but hard to spot because it's short: '؛'. Click 'talk' to see User talk:؛. The link ؛ says it's an Arabic semicolon. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, OH. duh. Not enough coffee. —valereee (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia page display

Since buying a new Iphone (which is in English) whenever I open a wikipedia page, through the safari suggestion tab, that tab always shows, somehow, in Thai. Whenever I try to google this problem I only get unrelated wikipedia pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.134.244 (talk) 13:18, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

It may have to do with your default language setting. On your desktop, log in and then click the language section settings icon on the left. Make sure it is set to English. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Logo Update for WNET right away

Dear Help desk, 6/19/2020

Here is the Update that still needs to get done right away On The Web Site at www.en.wikipedia.org On The WNET Page The Old 2011 THIRTEEN PBS Logo needs to get taken off right away thats because its not the sameone as website & The New 2017 THIRTEEN PBS Logo MEDIA WITH IMPACT thats On The New Web Site at www.thirteen.org thats on the top left needs to get put on right away & Would you please keep that in mind & don,t forget to go On The New Web Site at www.thirteen.org The New 2017 THIRTEEN PBS Logo MEDIA WITH IMPACT is on the top left needs to get put on right away & don,t forget to take care of it right away & don,t forget to let me know when its all set & done with & don,t forget to get this problem fixed big time right away & don,t forget. Please Write Back to my New E-mail address is [REDACTED] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yankeejess (talk • contribs) 15:13, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

You made a similarly impolite request a week ago, and it was treated with the respect it deserved. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:22, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

As it says at the top of this page: Please do not provide personal information such as e-mail addresses here. -Arch dude (talk) 17:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Yankeejess: you are being paid, but we are not. We are volunteers. We have no interest in helping you simply because your boss is on your case about this. Please take the advice we give you instead of ignoring it and reposting your demands and wasting our time. Our advice: 1) declare your paid status on your user page. (WP:PAID). 2) make an edit request on the article's talk page ({{edit request}}), providing reliable sources. Please note that we are all volunteers and nobody assigns tasks to any of us. We each do whatever we want and none of the 100,000 of us will ever even notice if nobody responds to your impolite demands. Instead, each editor who sees the demand will ignore it. Therefore I recommend that you word your edit request politely. -Arch dude (talk) 17:14, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Queens INDIAN QUEENS in Cornwall linked to Pocahontas

I have researched this history with others for 26 years and shared with the American Indian Chiefs and their SIX American Indian History Museums and many others and we made a new film POCAHONTAS DOVE OF PEACE in 2015 nominated for THREE EMMY FILM AWARDS at Los Angeles on April 27th 2017 available on DVD from CBN Europe at Hereford with a history project on line NOW at RICHMOND GLOUCESTER MUSEUM USA check out details on their websites and our HEACHAM HERITAGE FACEBOOK I shared in APRIL-MAY 2020 and more today and Pocahontas descendant Rappahannock Chief Anne Nelson Richardson does lots of the new film commentary . Pocahontas is on our village signpost at HEACHAM West Norfolk England who married John Rolfe from Heacham at Jamestown on April 6th 1614 uniting our two nations with eight years of POCAHONTAS PEACETIME and on their visit to England in 1616 for nine months almost got shipwrecked again arriving at Lands End June 1616 so sailed urgently to land at FALMOUTH in the GEORGE ship and NOT at PLYMOUTH stopping overnight in their horses and carriages at your inn shown on the photograph explained in archive in the HUGE Pocahontas Descendants green book available to buy on line travelling to London staying at the BELL INN near St Pauls Cathedral renamed after Pocahontas left the BELLE SAUVAGE by the Bell family owners shown on google images near St Sepulchre Without Newgate Church where John Smith is buried + his statue nearby at Law Courts They visited John Rolfes family here in Heacham during their nine months in England and his widowed mother Dorothea re-married when John was age 9 to his wealthy stepfather Dr Robert Redmayne the Trinity Lawyer Chancellor of Norwich Cathedral for 37 years for FIVE Bishops on the Latin plaque on his HUGE tomb in St Mary's Church Heacham with 22 other famous Rolfes buried inside church and 45 buried in their Rolfe private burial garden staying at their ROLFE MANOR FARM and cottages in PINNACLE ROW then renamed as POCAHONTAS ROW .Their Manor Farm is now the Manor Hotel Heacham where Pocahontas planted a mulberry tree still growing now and they sailed across the WASH to BOSTON using REDMAYNE ROLFE ships probably to meet other families linked to the FIRST SETTLERS at Jamestown and traded their corn -bricks -carrstone- -sheep -wine etc staying overnight at their new inn built 1613 also re-named INDIAN QUEEN still there now who celebrated this 400th anniversary in 2013-with a new POCAHONTAS BEER shown in their newspapers. These are the only TWO Indian Queen inns in UK as Pocahontas WAS to become the next INDIAN QUEEN when her father Chief Powhatan died leader of 32 tribes in Virginia and probably just as powerful and important as King James 1 and Queen Anne so she was welcomed as PRINCESS POCAHONTAS at their palace and special play performed VISION OF DELIGHT on Twelfth Night Jan 6th 1617 in her honour .But the Royal family still link NOW via Lord Louis Mountbattens wife EDWINA Countess of Burma who is a 12th Direct Descendant of Pocahontas great grand-daughter Hannah Rolfe shown in his old letters and explained on TIMEWATCH film 1995 to watch on HEACHAM HERITAGE YouTube link by their daughter .Also there are distant family links to HRH Princess Diana via her ancestors Spencers Kytsons Washingtons Rolfes marriages we have found that later link to first President George Washington and to Sir Winston Churchill The history takes me 7+ hours to explain with MANY old documents and family archives now discovered and 2022 is a TRIPLE 400th Memorial year for SQUANTO who saved the starving sick Pilgrim Fathers arriving on the Mayflower 400 years ago at his Patuxet reservation and JOHN ROLFE who died in 1622 both of the deadly diseases and SIR THOMAS GATES from Colyton Devon the new Governor at Jamestown 1610 died in Holland in September 1622 who rebuilt Jamestown and the new Henricho as 600 passengers had died starved in their SIX English arriving ships in this MINI ICE AGE STARVING TIMES in ALL the northern hemisphere with MANY deadly diseases for MANY YEARS so SIX nations were sailing across the Atlantic to the 'new world' in search of food and trade and land -from Holland Germany France Portugal Spain and England with only 60 survivors at the new Jamestown wooden FORT almost destroyed by fire in snowy January 1609 and Pocahontas family brought them food 1607 and in 1608 .Their tobacco is now being used for TEN new medicines 'pharmed' on genetically modified tobacco in America San Diego saving the lives of nine American doctors treating patients for EBOLA in Africa using ZMAPP drug in 2013 and MALARIA made in Germany and ten other new medicines being made including a new COVID -19 Vaccine .This is very exciting interesting history so join the new project on line run by RICK TATNALL and Chief Anne and Rev Chris Stone from Gravesend Church England where Pocahontas was buried on March 16th 1617 who also sadly died of the many deadly diseases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.31.182 (talk) 15:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place for original research, but if there are improvements that can be sourced by reference to published reliable sources you can suggest them at Talk:Indian Queens. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Why was my submission declined?

Hi there! I am brand new to Wiki so was curious to see if anyone could possibly tell me why my second attempt draft was declined?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Position_Music (I made edits and sent it back in, but the page still looks the same with that old rejection message in red at the top.)

Any and all help would be greatly appreciate! — Preceding unsigned comment added by NeonGreenBoy (talk • contribs) 16:21, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@NeonGreenBoy: decline notices don't go away automatically, and I urge you not to remove it. I have checked your draft and it is currently awaiting review. In the meantime, you could deal with the bare urls. Note that you haven't changed anything in the main text and I could immedately decline the text for reading like an advertisement; howewer, that would be a bit bitey. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The first thing you need to do is to include references properly, immediately after the text which each reference is supporting, see Help:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Request for help, looking for an archive

Can someone help me find this? Thanks. I am referring to the "archived" material discussed here: Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 June 14#Discussion closed. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:28, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: You might try looking at what links to that article. On the left border when on Killing of Tessa Majors, click where it says "What links here", which takes you to this page Special:WhatLinksHere/Killing of Tessa Majors. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:00, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Great idea! Never even thought of that. Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:43, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

"Holocaust" Production entry

Morton Gould is composer of music for "Holocaust". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.16.115.50 (talk) 19:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for the info, but please post suggestions like this on the article's talk page, along with a reference. RudolfRed (talk) 20:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Your definition of White pride is wrong.

White pride is not only for racists. Why can a person be proud of being black or Chinese or even Mexican and are not racist or supremacists... But we are automatically labeled as racist for just being proud to be what we were born as. I feel wiki needs to fix this page before a lawer is called.... This is calling all whites who are happy with being white racist. I've screenshotted this and will be posting it to Instagram — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100C:B2BE:F348:30AD:9E2:1B47:41D (talk) 20:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Calling a lawyer?

2600:100C:B2BE:F348:30AD:9E2:1B47:41D, please see WP:NOLEGALTHREATS. Wikipedia content is not the opinion of Wikipedia. It's the compilation of what is found in reliable sources. If you have found a reliable source which states what you claim, please feel free to edit the article, properly citing your sources. Wikipedia does not quake at the mention of Instagram.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

The article is semi-protected and anyway, you shouldn't edit it without reading the FAQ at Talk:White pride. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:13, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

HELP ME

I WANT TO DELETE ALL MU NOTIFICATIONS — Preceding unsigned comment added by MGHSHour (talk • contribs) 21:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

MGHSHour Please don't shout(use all caps). I'm not clear on what you are asking. 331dot (talk) 21:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

You cannot delete your notifications. If it's any consolation, other editors can't see your notifications.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Incorrectly accused of vandalism

I've been incorrectly accused of vandalism on the article for the Oasis album "Dig Out Your Soul". Why is this? 80.2.91.107 (talk) 23:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Instead of edit warring, please discuss your edit on the article talk page, or on your own user talk page as you have already. 331dot (talk) 23:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC)