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November 10

Citing book photographer credit

Aside from author, editor, and translator, a book may have a "photographs by" credit, but the CITATION template doesn't show such a keyword. I know that there's others= but what if google is finding the name of the photographer as if he's an author? From an image of the book cover, he's not an author. What keyword is there for photographer? Pi314m (talk) 02:58, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Pi314m:You are not restricted to using a citation template. You may use ordinary text instead of or in addition to the citation template. -Arch dude (talk) 06:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Pi314m: It doesn't seem necessary to add a photo credit, since the purpose of the cite is just to provide the reader with enough info to find the source. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Debajyoti Mukhopadhyay

BennettEagle has done the creation of the Wikipedia page of this academicin and researcher, using footnotes. Why it is not published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BennettEagle (talk • contribs) 06:22, 10 November 2020 06:22 (UTC)

@BennettEagle: As far as I can see the draft has not been re-submitted for review. If you consider that it is ready for mainspace you can request review by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the markup. This will produce a reveiw notice. Please prepare to be patient as reviews can take 8 weeks or more. However, with this edit you removed the decline notice (please do not do this) which would have provided you with a resubmit button. I have restored it and you can now resubmit it by clicking on that button. Eagleash (talk) 06:47, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Location showing up wrong on OpenStreetMap

On Blair Park, the Open Street Map generated from Template:coords is wrong. It's supposed to be on Moraga Avenue southwest of Warren Freeway/CA13, but it shows up as being on the northeast side at Colton Boulevard and Mendoza Drive. When I put in the coordinates to either Google Maps or Open Street Map, the right location comes up. What's wrong? —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 08:39, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Naddruf: The map in the article's infobox is generated not by the {{coord}} template, but by the Wikidata item for the park. I've emended the coordinates in the Wikidata item, and the map should now be indicating the correct location (you may need to purge the page to see this). Deor (talk) 19:44, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Deor: Then is there a reason to include the coords in the WP article? —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 20:13, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Naddruf: Of course. It's by clicking on the blue-linked coordinates that readers are taken to a GeoHack page, from which they can view a Google map, an OpenStreetMap, a topographical map, or whatever other kind of map they want to look at. Deor (talk) 20:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Deor: Thank you! —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 21:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

hi

Hi this is Neel Motwani and this is to inform you that i have changed my screen name as Neel Samarthh

please change it and there are few shows and work of mine not updated please do that . thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neelmotwani (talk • contribs) 2020-11-10T08:44:26 (UTC)

Hello, Neelmotwani. There are possibly three separate issues here. The first one (and the most important one, from Wikipedia's point of view), is that you should not be directly editing the article Neel Motwani at all, as you have a conflict of interest. If there are changes you would like made to that article, please make edit requests at the article's talk page.

Secondly, if you would like that article renamed, then please make an edit request, with a citation to a reliable published source for the change of name.

Thirdly, if you would like to change your account name, you may request that at CHU. --ColinFine (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

UPE/sock farm?

What's the best place to deal with Matador Network, the creation and maintenance of which is a long series of redlink SPAs, some of which have made edits to other company articles, mostly in the digital media field. It's obviously UPE, probably socking, possibly an actual company who is hiring experienced editors as the tone is plausible (though the sources are not). I tagged it, and I'm thinking of AfDing it after a bit of research, but this feels bigger than that and I'm not sure where to go with it. —valereee (talk) 09:52, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

I would suggest asking an admin with an interest in COI. @User:GeneralNotability, I have seen you on the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard, could you advise? TSventon (talk) 20:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

TSventon, valereee, yup, you've got the right person :). This article is setting off a lot of UPE alarm bells. Looking at the history, I see a lot of SPAs (probably work for Matador), a couple that look like mercenaries (blocked Spacehunters as suspected UPE since they've edited recently), a couple that are a little suspicious but not enough for me to take action, and...I have no idea what Sofi89255 is doing. Most of the accounts involved are years stale, so it's not worth doing anything about them, I think just sending it to AfD and handing out that one block should be enough (but I wouldn't be surprised if a few brand new editors happen to show up to that AfD). In the future, valeree, feel free to drop me a note on my talk page if you want an opinion on these sorts of things; COIN is usually a good place to take these, but some of the folks there can be a little bitey at times. And TSventon, feel free to ping me to these kind of questions in the future, this is one of my specialty areas and I'm always happy to lend a hand. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:25, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

GeneralNotability, thanks! That Sofi89255 seems to be going through some category and updating Alexa rankings. They started in May, working alphabetically, and started from the A's again in June. Very specific gnomism, maybe? —valereee (talk) 09:43, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks GeneralNotability. Valereee, I was hesitant to give my normal answer to your query, which is quoting a guideline, as an admin will probably be more familiar with the guidelines than I am. TSventon (talk) 10:13, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

TSventon, yeah, the problem is that we don't appear to have a place that deals specifically with our ongoing mercenary problem. They're more than just the run-of-the-mill COI, who is usually very easily detected. Mercenaries know how to fly under the radar -- like on the Matador article. There was no obvious puffery there. The tone didn't set off any alarms. When I saw the list of what looked like BS awards, I checked the sources, and when I saw the sourcing, I checked the history. The only thing I'm surprised about is the redlinked usernames. I expect mercenaries to turn their usernames blue first thing lol —valereee (talk) 10:30, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Valereee, I was trying to say that Helpdesk is a good place to check the basic policy, but as an admin you probably know (or can find) the basic policy so you may get a quicker or better answer by looking at a relevant talk page and asking an admin who is active there for advice. TSventon (talk) 11:22, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I see! Yes, that's a good idea, thanks! —valereee (talk) 11:25, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Solent University logo update

Hi,

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solent_University

I would like to update the logo and image that appears on the Solent University wikipedia page, as well as the motto. I am the Head of Marketing and Communications at Solent, and have noted that the logo is our old one. Google is currently pulling the information through from wikipedia when searching for the University, meaning that prospective students are seeing our old information on the search results page when they search for us. I'm keen to get the information updated as quickly as possible, but am not keen to have to go through the steps of making edits on other pages in order to update our page.

Please can you confirm how I can make this edit?

Thanks,

Leonora Clement Head of Marketing and Communications Solent University
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonoraclement (talk • contribs) 10:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Leonoraclement Please review the conflict of interest and paid editing policies for information on formal disclosures you are required to make. You should avoid directly editing the article about your university anyway, but you may make an edit request on Talk:Solent University. You can't upload images until your account is four days old with 10 edits or more(that includes edits to any page, not just articles) but you may request that your logo be uploaded at Files For Upload. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

glitches

Your bio of Joe Biden is loaded with them.

Joe is not the president-elect of any country we know of...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9001:2f0c:5c7:6583:498b:5d1:f088 (talk)

Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state, and almost all of them say he is president elect. Wikipedia does not necessarily state what is official or legal. If you disagree with the sources, you will need to take that up with them. 331dot (talk) 13:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

(e/c):Thank you for wanting to improve Wikipedia. I suggest you read and understand the precise meaning of President-elect of the United States. The place for any editorial suggestions is the Talk Page of the article in question. Please make a clear request of exactly what you think needs correcting, for example in the form of "for A read B". Remember to include a reference to reliable source for your assertion.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:33, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Please feel free to join this discussion at the article talk page. Eagleash (talk) 13:36, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps you should expand your knowledge by acquainting yourself with the United States. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:47, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Help: correct wikipedia reference for /The_Crown_(season_3)

Please make my reference to Wikipedia page on Operation Banner fit your criteria

I am editing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown_(season_3) I have faithfully inserted what was suggested. I keep getting the same error message

Eimear Ni NeillEimear Ni Neill (talk) 16:40, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Eimear Ni Neill, you're not closing your ref tag with </ref>. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

I've removed it. Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference to itself. You need to find an independent source that mentions the claim you're trying to add. - X201 (talk) 16:47, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The 'reference' is also to Wikipedia which is not acceptable (per WP:UGC) and the statement has been removed. It may also not be relevant to an article about a TV series and / or represent a point of view. Eagleash (talk) 16:53, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Adding Pictures to Wikipedia

I would like to add a picture to a Wikipedia entry, but I am unable to do so. I already added a picture to Wikipedia Commons. I am getting a permission error:

You do not have permission to upload this file, for the following reason:

The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Autoconfirmed users, Administrators, Confirmed users.

Thank you— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagodasad (talk • contribs)

To upload images, your account must be four days old with 10 edits or more. You need 6 more edits. 331dot (talk) 17:55, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Jagodasad: If the image has a compatible copyright, please add to to Commons instead. If the image does not have a compatible copyright, then you may add it to en.wikipedia, but only under a fair use rationale. Our fair-use criteria are very restrictive because we are paranoid about copyright infringement. The image must meet all 10 of the criteria. Make sure you are convinced that your image meets them. See WP:FAIRUSE. -Arch dude (talk) 18:39, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Creation of the Page John Clark Gable

I am creating a page for my husband, John Clark Gable and his name and identity are being used by another person. If you search for John Clark Gable it redirects to Clark Gable iii. Will you please look into the stolen identity issue.

Thank you.

Debra Hartsell Gable — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkdassochartsell (talk • contribs)

There isn't a "stolen identity issue". It's more than possible for there to be multiple people named "John Clark Gable"; the name itself doesn't strike me as something particularly unique. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 19:35, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Disambiguation. We have thousands of names that are shared. Please also read WP:COI. You should probably not create that page directly yourself. Instead, follow WP:YFA to create a draft, which will result in reviewers trying to help you avoid problems. Please read WP:N. Your page cannot remain on Wikipedia unless your subject is notable by our definition, failure to demonstrate notability is the main reason that articles get declined or deleted, so don't put a lot of time into your article until you are certain you can establish notability. After all of this negative stuff, please don't get discouraged. -Arch dude (talk) 19:48, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Jkdassochartsell, so it looks like your husband's name redirects to his son from a previous marriage, Clark James Gable, is that correct? Interesting family dynamics going on here. :) If your husband is actually notable (he appears to be an off-road racer?) then an article can be created. There needs to be significant coverage in reliable sources. There's an LA Times article here, so he may be notable. You need at least two more like that to prove notability. Don't worry about the redirect; that can be fixed if an article is created, but you have a conflict of interest, so you've got a very long haul ahead of you unless someone else gets interested. NASCARfan0548, are you interested in off-road racing? —valereee (talk) 10:57, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Valereee, Yes, but I unfortunately can't help you. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 18:00, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error group refs without references -- PLEASE FIX THIS CREDIT

https://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0870154/?ref_=nm_filmo_filminprod_1

This is the official change in credits from IMDB after the screen story was awarded to Josh Goldstein & John Norville and Ficcara & Requa. In addition, these credits need to be reflected on the far right of the page, where the poster is and incorrectly gives Ficcara & Requa the sole story by credit which is not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgeeeeee (talk • contribs) 20:03, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

For reference to others, the article is Jungle Cruise (film). IMDB is not a reliable source - IMDB Pro may or may not be, depending on the source of the information, but it is not accessible to most people. Please provide a different source at Talk:Jungle Cruise (film) as that is the proper forum. Or, feel free to make the change yourself, citing to a reliable source. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia ^talk 20:34, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Jgeeeeee: I don't think so. I've requested help from film folk at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Jungle Cruise. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:25, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Close account

Hello! I wish to close my account. Please advise as to how to do this. Thank you.Anna C. Howard (talk) 22:38, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Anna C. Howard, accounts can't be deleted as edits need to be attributed to one per Wikipedia's licence. You can simply stop using this account if you are planning to leave Wikipedia as an editor. If the concern is about your name, you may want to speak with someone about a courtesy vanishing so that the username gets scrambled. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:29, 10 November 2020 (UTC)