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July 14

History of Australian Rules Football in Victoria (1859-1900)

The "History of Australian Rules Football in Victoria (1859-1900)" page seems to have disappeared, with people being redirected to the general and quite different "History of Australian Rules Football in Victoria" page, with no explanation at all as to what has happened to the (1859-1900) page. Please help me! Albert Isaacs (talk) 07:15, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

: @Albert Isaacs: Have you looked at the article history? --David Biddulph (talk) 07:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

I am still having trouble beinging up this page, and look forward to further help to reinstate it! Ironically, this is the second page started by me that has had problems in the last few weeks; the other one with difficulties being Martha Gardener, but everything there now apears to have been fixed. Is there a problem at my end? I lookforward to your comments.Albert Isaacs (talk) 23:18, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Delete attached accounts

Is there anyway to delete attached accounts? I don't think that I will ever edit on French Wikipedia, I looked at once or twice and now I have an account associated with it when I don't want that. Is the only solution to delete my whole account and start over. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SINGmeAsadSONG (talk • contribs)

@SINGmeAsadSONG: Attached accounts cannot be deleted. Special:CentralAuth/SINGmeAsadSONG shows many. They are automatically created if you view any page while logged in. Just ignore them. If you don't edit a wiki then you will probably never hear from it except possibly a notification about a welcome post. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

In fact, no accounts can be deleted, SINGmeAsadSONG, so you can't delete your whole account and start over. You can abandon an account, and even get it renamed to something unmemorable if you want (see courtesy vanishing), but accounts are permanent, for reasons of attribution. --ColinFine (talk) 11:40, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Excess spacing before poem

Hi, how exactly can one get rid of the excess spacing above the poem in Heinrich Heine#Last years: the "mattress-grave"? (I tried to fix that issue by adapting the formatting from the other poems included in the article, but, unfortunately, that didn't work ...)--Hildeoc (talk) 12:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

No excess spacing for me. Perhaps it's your browser settings? --David Biddulph (talk) 12:52, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: Thanks. I'm using Firefox 89.--Hildeoc (talk) 13:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Also Firefox 89 here , Hildeoc, and no extra space. The layout of webpages can depend critically on things like the window size. --ColinFine (talk) 20:07, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Thank you too for the feedback. I didn't change the window size settings, so I guess they are default. How can I change the window size (in order to see whether the problem disappears)?--Hildeoc (talk) 11:38, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

On most window-based OS's, Hildeoc, you can resize windows at will, as long as they're not maximised. Note that your screen size (in pixels) may have a bearing on the window size. --ColinFine (talk)

Any other comments?--Hildeoc (talk) 14:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Bot request on Commons

I wish to change image that appear on millions of page. How can I request for a bot on commons? --2001:B07:6442:8903:CCE2:1614:58FA:91D5 (talk) 13:43, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

What is it you want to change? Pi (Talk to me!) 13:59, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Old image: file:DE-pahyl.svg

New image: File:Flag map of Germany.svg

--2001:B07:6442:8903:CCE2:1614:58FA:91D5 (talk) 14:02, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Firstly, neither of those images are on Commons, so I don't really understand why you want a bot to run on commons. Also where did you get the idea that these are on millions of pages? Pi (Talk to me!) 15:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

They are both on Commons, Pi, and are used on at least hundreds of pages in several different editions of Wikipedia. IP user: I doubt if there is anything that can be run on Commons that will do this, because the change would need to be made in each edition of Wikipedia that uses the image. But you can ask at C:Commons:Help desk --ColinFine (talk) 20:14, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Adding content blocked

I have a primary source document I would like to add to a page. The page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennett_Place the document is located here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Terms_of_a_Military_Convention.jpg The edid was blocked for some reason and IDGARA why, I am fully disgusted that this is so difficult. The document is a field copy of the TERMS OF A MILITARY CONVENTION penned AT BENNETT'S PLACE. It is a great loss that you are blocking this addition to this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jport 2 (talk • contribs)

I do not see any relevant filter hits or any indication the edit was actually saved. Did you make sure to include an edit summary? (Not including one will interdict the edit to remind you to add one; hitting "Publish changes" again will save the edit.) —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 15:25, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Donation

When I opened your page I couldn't believe and remembered that you asked the same question two years ago and lied just like today that it is the first time you are asking for a donation. Then I did give a donation and now I don't think so bc you lied it's your first. I'm very disappointed and apologize in advance, I hate deceit.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:5216:1e00:e83c:f78a:16bb:64c1 (talk • contribs)

Not sure what donation message you saw; they often test several different ones this time of year. However, Wikipedia has no way of tracking un-logged in people to know if they have donated in the past or not.~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok, after some searching I found this, with a link to the message you likely saw. I agree the message is poorly worded, but it does say "1st time recently" as opposed to "1st time ever". At any rate, I've left a comment on the talk page there suggesting it be changed. Feel free to leave your thoughts there. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Banners asking for money are currently shown to some readers in the UK (and possibly elsewhere), as well as to all readers in Japan. it is important to note that the Wikimedia Foundation, the recipient of all these donations, is richer than ever and aggressively expanding its budget. For more information see Wikipedia is swimming in money—why is it begging people to donate? (Daily Dot) --Andreas JN466 05:14, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Scams

Why are you asking for money and why are your mods biased and corrupted?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c5:dd85:ed00:98a1:1842:9e56:fee1 (talk • contribs)

Regarding the donation requests, see the question two sections up, and see Meta:Fundraising. Feel free to leave your feedback about the fundraising messages on Meta:Talk:Fundraising. As for the mods being biased and corrupted - we don't have mods, we have Administrators, of which I am one. I do not think I am biased or corrupted. What reason do you have for believing Wikipedia Administrators are biased and corrupted? ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Although the above was accurate at the time it was written, the section referred to above is only one section up in this archive. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:42, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

I can think of any of a number of reasons... —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 16:36, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

if you have feedback about fundraising, direct it to donate (at) wikimedia.org. RudolfRed (talk) 18:18, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

For information on Wikimedia finances see the annual plan as well as the Daily Dot article, Wikipedia is swimming in money—why is it begging people to donate? --Andreas JN466 06:02, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Trouble citing reference below to name (Bob Sharka) to List of People from Pacific Palisades page

Good news: it's my second try Bad News: It's still not right Good news to the Bad news; I'm getting closer :) Here's is the link I'm trying to cite https://www.palipost.com/friends-of-film-honors-palisadian-jonathan-lynn/ Can you help? THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezrakaboian (talk • contribs)

@Ezrakaboian: Hi and welcome to the Teahouse! List of people from Pacific Palisades only includes people who have Wikipedia articles, and so I have removed your addition in its entirety. Bob Sharka does not appear to qualify for a Wikipedia article (see WP:NBIO), so he cannot be included in the list. Let us know if you have any more questions. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

This is the help desk. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:53, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion

First swearing-in ceremony of Narendra Modi and Second swearing-in ceremony of Narendra Modi:
These articles are about a topic that does not really merit the need for an entire article of itself. There are no other articles about any other "swearing-in ceremonies" of any leader or politician. These articles use the Template:Infobox historical event, but they are hardly a high-importance historical event, and certainly do not need their own separate articles. These large portion of these articles contain "Reactions" and "Invitees", making it look like a press report. Maybe there can be a short section (much shorter than the articles) about the ceremony in the articles Council of Ministers of the 16th Lok Sabha and Council of Ministers of the 17th Lok Sabha. We must remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not anything else. Wikipedia is definitely not a newspaper. There is no need for articles about every event that comes in the news. So, keeping this in view, the two articles should be deleted. Peter Ormond 💬 19:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Peter Ormond, please see Category:Presidential inaugurations. You can certainly nominate these for deletion (I would not do both simultaneously) but I expect that they would be kept. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

And see Swearing-in ceremony of Imran Khan for a similar article name and a prime minister. Category:Coronation is also related but usually more notable. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:58, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

IHA Consultative Board Edits

In regards to the Wikipedia page, for Immaculate Heart Academy, we suggested an edit to be made for the Consultative Board section on July 12th. We have not heard back from Wikipedia regarding these suggested edits, nor have the changes been added to Immaculate Heart's Wikipedia page. Please let me know if there is an issue with my request, or an explanation as to why the changes have not been made yet. The URL for their Wikipedia page and the section I am referring to is linked below Thank you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Heart_Academy#Consultative_Board — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan at caruso (talk • contribs)

Ryan at caruso Your request was not properly formatted, so probably no one has seen it. I can fix that. 331dot (talk) 20:30, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Interactive map

• On the article I created on Demarest Building I recently put in an Infobo Building and the interactive map shows up in preview, but when I save my last edit the map will no longer show or interact. Perhaps I am missing something in the Infobox that could fix it. Does a technical person know how to get the map working? A proper map working correctly is that at 224 West 57th Street. Can I get my article to work like that interactive map? Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:31, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

• I just now added the coordinates and it appears to be working properly, the way it should. Is that correct?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:45, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
• But now at the bottom of the article page in red letters it says, {{#coordinates:}}: cannot have more than one primary tag per page Can that be fixed by someone? Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Fixed my my removal of the duplicate {{coord}} template. Deor (talk) 16:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hebrew Wikipedia

How do I get the text (or program) of Template:Tree chart or Template:Chart so I can copy it to the Hebrew wikipedia?

Thanks פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 20:34, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Pashute: If you preview code then the bottom of the window has a list at "Templates used in this preview". You may have to click a triangle to see the list. For Template:Tree chart#Basic example I see three template pages and four module pages. I don't know whether that is enough for all cases. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:03, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

But I'm not asking how to USE the code with examples. I want to COPY THE TEMPLATE itself. There is no EDIT button, is that because I'm not an admin here?פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 21:07, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Follow this link to see the code. It invokes other templates you may have to set up as well. Zoozaz1 talk 21:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Pashute: If you have no edit right to a template then a link 'View source' appears instead of 'Edit'. You may use it to view and copy the template's definition. HTH. --CiaPan (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Brent Montgomery

I am Brent's publicist - we have been working together to update his Wikipedia page with new information about his businesses and investments. We reformatted it a bit and added in new / relevant information and updated the sources. However, we received an error code saying that I wasn't able to make the requested changes. Can you please help me with this ASAP?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBbabygrandepr (talk • contribs)

@JBbabygrandepr: You must disclose your paid relationship with Montgomery on your user page; you may use {{paid}} to do so. Once you've done that, you should not edit the article directly, but make edit requests on the article's talk page at Talk:Brent Montgomery. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@JBbabygrandepr: Sorry, but it's unlikely that any of our unpaid volunteers will wish to "help you ASAP". See Wikipedia:There is no deadline. This is an encyclopedia, not a venue to promote the interests of you or your client. -Arch dude (talk) 00:17, 15 July 2021 (UTC)