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July 15

relateted to google search for page

the page is not opening if searched in google.how to overcome this problem?— Preceding unsigned comment added by User:TKPS (talk • contribs)

TKPS It sounds like the issue could be with your device and not Wikipedia itself, but we will need more information about what is happening. 331dot (talk) 08:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, TKPS. This is a guess, because you haven't told us what article this is about; but it might be that the article has been deleted from Wikipedia, but Google hasn't caught up. --ColinFine (talk) 09:38, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

@TKPS: user pages, sandbox pages, and draft pages are tagged as "noindex" and will mot show up on Google, ever. New pages in mainspace (i.e., real articles) are also tagged "noindex" for 90 days or until they are reviewed. Also see WP:NOT: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web host or blog, so it is not a venue for your original poetry, however worthy it may be. -Arch dude (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Changing a Page Name

Dear All,

I want to edit the page name of Sanasa Development Bank in to SDB bank as they have changed their business name recently. Currently it shows as Sanasa Development Bank which is outdated. But I do not have the "move" option so I am unable to do it. It would be great if someone can assist me with this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chethanika (talk • contribs)

Chethanika You may request a move at Requested Moves. Note that Wikipedia uses the most common name used by reliable sources for a topic, and not necessarily an official or legal name(though with an organization that's often the same). 331dot (talk) 08:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

WP:GNG

How many sources are required for a topic to pass GNG? Dr Salvus 08:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Dr Salvus There isn't a specific number; there needs to be enough to summarize. I can tell you that if you are submitting a draft through Articles for Creation(a good idea unless you are extremely experienced with creating articles) most reviewers look for at least three independent reliable sources with significant coverage. 331dot (talk) 08:30, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Redirect issue

I've completed a draft article on a musical composition, Geneviève de Brabant (Satie), but cannot move it from my sandbox to the mainspace because a redirect under that title leads to a List of compositions by Erik Satie, with no detailed info. It is suggested I try another title, but under Wiki guidelines I can only use the one above to distinguish it from an existing article, on the operetta Geneviève de Brabant by Jacques Offenbach. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. TheBawbb (talk) 15:58, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

TheBawbb, you should be able to move the page, see Wikipedia:Moving a page#Moving over a redirect, otherwise, use Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. TSventon (talk) 16:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Account lost

My 0718965276 e mail is deactivated account password forgot this e mail no Los the e mail no is deactivated 😭 plz give me FB account 0740073967 plz FB company — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:4000:B180:90AF:1:0:6DB:5BAB (talk) 17:39, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

This Help Desk is about questions for using or editing Wikipedia. We can't help with Facebook. RudolfRed (talk) 17:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Please see this help article: How do I change or reset my Facebook password? Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:30, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ads?

I thought that wikipedia would be add free? What does this stuff mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikipedia_ads

198.208.46.95 (talk) 18:42, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Those are ads for Wikipedia projects and collaborations. Some users like to include them on their user pages to get visitors interested in different areas. They should (and are afaik) never used on articles. Regards SoWhy 18:44, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I have that on my user page and user talk page. Every once in a while I'll find something I feel like working on via those ads. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:04, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Welsh edit tags

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T286679

Today my edit tags seem to be showing in Welsh for some reason. At least I assume that "Golygu ar declyn symudol" is Welsh. I don't recall changing any settings. How can I get them back into English? nagualdesign 21:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

[1] it is currently being investigated. It's only for En-GB, so if you change your language options to english American it'll work fine. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:34, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I've just done exactly that. I had to switch to Desktop view (on my phone) to access Preferences. I tried changing to Canadian then back to British English, but it didn't work, so I've changed it to English for the time being. I thought for a moment that someone had accessed my account. It's reassuring to know that it isn't just me. Cheers. nagualdesign 21:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

And see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Tags_in_Welsh. DuncanHill (talk) 21:47, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Turns out that it isn't just tags. Once in Desktop mode I could see that the links at the bottom of the page were also in Welsh, plus what I assume was the Donate link in the sidebar. nagualdesign 21:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: There is no "english American". There is "en - English", which is an internationalised form that we have recommended for many years now, not least of which is the fact that "en-GB - British English" is so badly maintained. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:10, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

@Redrose64: What is meant by "internationalised"? Is there somewhere we can see what spelling choices it makes? DuncanHill (talk) 15:49, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

First name, surname or full name in the description of an image?

Is it okay to just use someone's first name in the description of an image? The Kylie Minogue has images which use both just her first name and her surname.

Can anyone provide a link to the relevant Wikipedia article about this query?

Thanks.--Emily19911991 (talk) 23:09, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

@Emily19911991: We do not have guidelines for everything: see Wikipedia:Avoid instruction creep (and more generally, WP:IAR). You are expected to use your editorial judgment when there is no obvious rule. However, there are some general editorial principles that would apply here. One is consistency within an article, so you should probably change the article to use one or the other, not both. Another principle is to use the commonest name, the one that will seem least surprising to a reader. -Arch dude (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

(ec) @Emily19911991:. Welcome to Wikipedia. I am not sure about the specific case you are mentioning, but the guideline is at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Captions. RudolfRed (talk) 23:49, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

@Emily19911991: fixing the reply RudolfRed (talk) 23:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

@Emily19911991: generally we refer to biography article subjects by their surnames, so Kylie Minogue is captioned as Minogue. In one picture Kylie appears with her sister Danni and given names are used to distinguish between them. A mononym can be used for subjects like Madonna who use that name exclusively. There is a full explanation at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Names. TSventon (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2021 (UTC)