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March 8

Talk?

Dear Wikipedia,

I am still having problems to talk to your writers. In an article I posed via Talk a remark. What happened? The writer did delete it without comment.

Is this the way we relate to each other?

Regards. 145.129.136.48 (talk) 00:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! When Hob Gadling deleted your post on Talk:Hans Eysenck, the user added a comment in the edit summary stating "delete contribution that does not belong here because of WP:TALK". If you don't understand an action an editor made, you can ask a question on the user's talk page: User talk:Hob Gadling. GoingBatty (talk) 00:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

The page to which Hob Gadling pointed you starts The purpose of an article's talk page (accessible via the talk or discussion tab) is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or WikiProject. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views on a subject. You weren't proposing a change, and seemed to be doing no more than giving your personal view. -- Hoary (talk) 02:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

First Draft

Hello All,  New proposal

I created my first Draft I was hoping to get someone’s insight on how I did. Page can be found here: Draft:Nouveau Shamanic Thank You. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 06:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

The link to the NYT is broken, which is a poor sign. Also, you have used the same reference twice in two cases (NYT and Film School Rejects). You need to look at WP:OPCIT to see how to use the same reference multiple times. In terms of content, I think more explanation is needed in simple terms. Did you just copy what was written in the articles you were citing? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:36, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Note also that Nicolas Cage#Acting style already includes stuff about Nouveau Shamanic, Elvisisalive95. For a separate article there needs to be good evidence that this style is independently WP:NOTABLE. It can't inherit that notability from Cage himself, there have to be several WP:SECONDARY sources that specifically discuss the topic at some length. Shame Cage doesn't seem to have produced his promised book on it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:42, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Michael D. Turnbull I’m not sure why that link comes up as broken, I googled the article again. Brought up the site, saw that the article was working. Then I took the link again re-posted it, yet when I click on it through Wikipedia it shows up as broken. If you were to Google the article it would show up. Strange, I’ll have to work on this. Also I’ll try to use more laments terms i read the article then did my interpretation of what was being said. I’m going to look for more sources and hope Cage does release his Oprah Best Sellers List book!  Thank you very much! Elvisisalive95 (talk) 13:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elvisisalive95: The link to the NYT you need is [1]. If you compare the source code here with that currently in your draft, you'll see the draft has a peculiar sort of "double" version of the URL. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Elvisisalive95, I'm not sure what was up with that link, but I've replaced it with the proper one. I also fixed the ref names, which were not functioning properly before. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 13:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

User:EDG 543 Thank you very much, when I click it here it works. But I just clicked on the link after your revisions of the draft and it seems to automatically come up again as broken. Check again and let me know if it’s the same on your end. Maybe it’s in need of a manual entry? Elvisisalive95 (talk) 13:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Elvisisalive95, it was working for me when I had initially tested it, but it was broken again when I checked just now. I'm not sure why, but it had become a sort of double URL again, as Mike Turnbull had mentioned earlier. I fixed it manually, and it seems to be fixed now. Try it out to see if its fixed for real this time. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 13:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

User:EDG 543 I just tried, and eureka! It does work now! I truly appreciate that, good to know going forward! Thank you Elvisisalive95 (talk) 13:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Elvisisalive95, hey, no prob. Good luck on the draft! Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 14:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Corona effects the editing frequency of wikipeida ?

Before corona , last year with avarage one edit per minute in ANI , but the editing speed reduced nealy one edit per ten minutes ..what may be the reason ? How to increase editing speed ?

(Trodento (talk) 03:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC))

It would be better if many people reduced their editing speed. It's likely that the results would then make more sense. -- Hoary (talk) 03:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Trodento: Please clarify what you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I think the OP is trying to say that there have been fewer edits in general since covid? I'm not sure. 331dot (talk) 10:05, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Other way around, I think: Wikipedia has seen a spike in people editing pages during the pandemic Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure edits to ANI is the best example of anything really, other than the amount of incidents being reported. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:17, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

How to delete

How do I delete my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by D and D master 2016 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

D and D master 2016 You can't, but see this link: WP:VANISH. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

A link needs to be edited:Sausage Companies Of The United States

Thanks to Wikipedia for providing this platform to talk through the helpdesk and communicate on some issues. I am here to request that our company named Showboat Sausages Brand is missing from a link on Wikipedia: Link but thanks to Wikipedia's terms & conditions that they provide the opportunity to discuss with them.

Company Name: ShowBoat Brand Sausage Link to Our Company: Link — Preceding unsigned comment added by Showboatbrand (talk • contribs)

Hello Showboatbrand, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your link is page which list WP:s articles about Sausage_companies_of_the_United_States, your company is not there because afaict, WP doesn't have an article about you. Maybe it should, I have no idea atm.

If you think WP should have such an article, there are 2 things you can try. You can post at WP:REQUEST, which tbh has a huge backlog. Or you can learn how WP-editing works, and try to make one yourself. I recommend you start with these links: WP:NORG, WP:TUTORIAL, WP:YFA and WP:COI. Also, per one of WP:s many many (many) rules (WP:ORGNAME) your username is not ok. If you want the org-name in there, something like "Kim at Showboatbrand" is ok. The easy way to fix this is to just abandon this account and make a new one. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Contacts with authorities of the Russian Wikipedia

Please give me contacts with the persons who are responsible for the Russian Wikipedia. I have spent too much time on this and cannot find them. All links lead to English Wikipedia. Konstantine Gunin (talk) 15:50, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Konstantine Gunin, friend, there is no single person or group of people "responsible" for the Russian Wikipedia. It is managed by thousands of volunteers, just like the English one. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 15:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

As I don't speak Russian, all I can suggest is that you start at "the Russian Wikipedia Main Page". and look for links to something resembling a Help Desk or Teahouse — surely Russians must drink tea ;-) Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Konstantine Gunin: This is a link to this Help Desk's Russian counterpart: ru:Википедия:Форум/Вопросы (transl. Wikipedia:Forum/Questions).

And this is a link from the Teahouse: ru:Википедия:Форум/Помощь начинающим (Wikipedia:Forum/Help for beginners). --CiaPan (talk) 16:19, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

User blocked

Hello my user is Aless28, I don't know why someone blocks me, I was trying to make a page for artists, please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aless28 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Aless28: This post is your only post on Wikipedia. User:Aless28 has not been blocked. Were you editing using a different username or IP address that was blocked? GoingBatty (talk) 17:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@(talkI was trying to make a page the page is this one: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gvantanamo my Ip address is blocked forever and also the page is now canceled I don't know why, it is an artist and I was making his page — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorvialG1927 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

We can't help you. You'll need to deal with that at Italian Wikipedia. CUPIDICAE💕 17:05, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @CorvialG1927: It appears three users on the Italian Wikipedia deleted the article you created there because it was "obviously non-encyclopedic or promotional content". it:User:CorvialG1927 (which is not an IP address) was blocked there for misusing multiple accounts (as you have done here), which is called "sockpupperty" on Wikipedia. As Praxidicae said above, you can discuss it further on the Italian Wikipedia. GoingBatty (talk) 17:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

DJ biography?

I am looking to write a bio on a relatively big DJ from Africa and the Middle East but i am not sure if i am allowed to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AceManager (talk • contribs) 18:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

AceManager, I see no reason why you wouldn't be allowed to... If you have a close relation to the subject (ex. the DJ is you, your brother, paying you to create the article, etc.) you must disclose your conflict of interest before beginning. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 18:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

FYI

 – Merging from a separate section below. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I read that when writing a bio on someone they have to have a certain amount of fame is that true — Preceding unsigned comment added by AceManager (talk • contribs) 18:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

For the article to be accepted, it needs to establish that its subject is notable. That word is used in a non-standard sense here in Wikipedia: click that blue link to learn what it means. Maproom (talk) 18:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

If you're associated with the DJ or know them personally/professionally, then you should not write the article because of apparent conflict of interest. Also if your username is an organization/group you should change your username. If the person doesn't have external news articles about them, then I would hold off on creating an article until they do. I would read WP:MUSICBIO and see if they meet that criteria. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:59, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Anthony Lolli page - no response to talk requests for edit

Hi I have tried multiple times to submit a request for edit using the talk page on the Anthony Lolli. It states I have a COI but I have clearly stated that I am being paid to edit the page. My IP has been blocked for direct edit but just want to resolve the situation ASAP. Can someone get back to me with a way forward? Thanks Aude — Preceding unsigned comment added by AudeNF2021 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@AudeNF2021: In this edit by you, you added {{request edit|D|ADV}} to request someone reviews your request. However, by adding "|D|ADV", you accidentally declined your own request. You should have only added {{request edit}} with no parameters - see the instructions at Template:Request edit. Victor Schmidt and I have fixed the {{request edit}} templates for you. In the future, I suggest that you request work on one section at a time, as some editors may feel overwhelmed to review an entire rework of an article. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 19:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Adding images

No matter how hard I try, I can't put a picture into my userpage. It is very frustrating. Help!~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioFyreFlower (talk • contribs) 20:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@MarioFyreFlower: What picture are you trying to add to your userpage? Has it already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Commons? What wikicode are you using to display the image? Do you have an old version of your userpage that shows what you were trying to do? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Why was my Article removed.... I thought it was constructive... and useful...

I submitted a legitimate article, and it was removed saying it was "not constructive"... How do I change the article so that it appears constructive and so that it doesn't get removed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capping&direction=prev&oldid=1009465121

Screenshot of removed article: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nmh9ilujfsuavw9/Screenshot_of_Removed_Article_Capping_20210308.png?dl=0

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAXmonkieROD (talk • contribs) 20:09, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello MAXmonkieRO, and welcome to Wikipedia! Phuzion reverted your edit, and probably could have left a more informative message as to why, instead of a generic, standardized template. However, the generic standardized templates are often useful. At any rate, there are a couple problems with your edit to Capping. First, Capping is a disambiguation page, not a proper article. Disambiguation pages are designed to solve the problem of multiple articles on different topics with the same or similar titles. They exist to direct readers to the appropriate article, when more than one could match the search term they used. Disambiguation pages should not have additional content. Your edit appeared to be adding a new definition of Capping for which we don't have an article, which is not the purpose of a disambiguation page. Second, assuming you were trying to add a new article, in addition to that not being the place for that content, you did not cite any sources for the content you added. Any time you add uncited content to anything in Wikipedia, do not be surprised when it gets reverted. Lastly, the content you added seems like it may be better included in existing articles like Capitalization, Caps lock, or Title case. A case may be made for adding a link to one or all of those articles to the disambiguation page on capping, but that's all that should be added, a link. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Red linked name

Please I need help, I see my name in red letters on wikipedia edit history and some other people in blue letters. I joined ten months ago, does it mean that I am not yet a verified wikipedia editor/creator? What does it mean please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faith Daniel Adepoju (talk • contribs) 20:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

It's ok to be red. I've been red since 2009...

—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Faith Daniel Adepoju. The red letters simply means that you have not yet created a user page. Click the red letters and the software will ask you if you want to start that page. Start it and type something about yourself as a Wikipedia editor. Click " Publish changes" and your signature will turn blue. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Report user for abusive behavior

What the best place to report someone for abusive behavior?RepublicanMMA (talk) 21:24, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

RepublicanMMA, I recommend going to Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention. You are likely to find what you are looking for there. Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 21:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Grammy Award

Hi Folks!! Is a Grammy notable? It's not something I really know about. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 23:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

User:scope creep, Grammys can be evidence of notability per WP:NMUSIC. TSventon (talk) 00:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 00:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, scope_creep. The Grammy Awards themselves are definitely notable, but that does not necessarily mean that every single person who has won a regional Grammy award for off-camera work is notable. It is an indicator of possible notability but not proof of notability. In the end, it comes down to to the question: "Has this person received significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources?" If you can confidently answer " yes", then go ahead and write the article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Cullen: It was to verify the notability of several articles on the coin noticeboard. They are all producers, created by a UPE and they look very similar in form and content, pushing the Grammy side of things, more than other aspects. I'm not sure if they are notable. They have all won several grammy's or been nominated, but whether the sources are suitable, I don't yet. scope_creep^Talk 10:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)