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November 19

cannal

who built the hamilton cannal in srilanka. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.134.6.172 (talk) 01:25, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

If the article Hamilton Canal doesn't answer your question, then you're welcome to ask it at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous. -- Hoary (talk) 01:43, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Bananas about a split

I've split List of most successful U-boat commanders into List of World War I U-boat commanders and List of World War II U-boat commanders, successfully removing the objectionable "most successful", per the very recent Afd verdict. Now what am I supposed to do with the original list? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:57, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Well, such instances can go through WP:G6, but here you probably want to keep the page history for attribution purposes. Maybe redirect to the WW2 page since that’s the biggest chunk of the two? Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 09:14, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
  • It would also be helpful to add a Template:For to each page with a link to the other; which I have done. Bazza (talk) 09:58, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

change the version of the article in pdf- format

Dear Editers, The page Carposina viduana includes the reference on the article (pdf-format) with misprints which were corrected in its last version. Please, replace that pdf-format of article "Review of the family Carposinidae from Russian Far East" by renewed one. The latter is accessible at https://www.biosoil.ru/files/fscpublications/fee/00000101.pdf

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.102.113.67 (talk) 04:02, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done Maproom (talk) 08:33, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Display content from Wikidata

Hi, does anyone know why Wikidata content isn't displayed in the infobox here?--Kun Kipcsak (talk) 14:58, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kun Kipcsak: {{Infobox brand}} isn't coded to display Wikidata content. Many infobox templates aren't. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thank you for answer. I thought it was an exaggerated data retrieval delay.--Kun Kipcsak (talk) 15:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Spacing error in "nbsp" template

Hi. I think I've found a bug in the {{nbsp}} template.

This pic shows a tiny bit too much space is introduced by the template. (There's a fourth example in the pic; an exercise for the reader.)

This second pic shows more unwanted space, presumably caused by a template that embeds {{nbsp}}.

Happens on Firefox browser, but not Brave. Many (all?) pages. A CSS thing? Can anyone confirm? -- Ghastlyman (talk) 15:49, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ghastlyman: It doesn't happen for me in Firefox. {{nbsp}} produces <span class="nowrap">&nbsp;</span> These line up exactly for me:

100 million doses.

100 million doses.

100 million doses.

100 million doses.

What happens for you? What is your font in Firefox? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:03, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Top 3 have too much space. Last one looks fine. Default font (DejaVu Serif). -- Ghastlyman (talk) 16:10, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Edit: I have the "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of your selections above" option set, so font choice shouldn't matter? -- Ghastlyman (talk) 16:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ghastlyman: That sounds like personal browser settings. I'm on Chrome and I'm not seeing any spacing differences. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:18, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Tenryuu, yeah, Brave and Chrome have same software base. -- Ghastlyman (talk) 16:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  is interpreted and displayed by the browser. It is completely outside Wikipedia's control. --ColinFine (talk) 16:45, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Good call, thanks. - Ghastlyman (talk) 16:58, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ghastlyman: What do you see at http://primerecords.dk/Wikipedia/nbsp.html? It has no CSS and the only content is:

100 million doses.<br />
100&nbsp;million doses.

It looks right to me in Firefox with identical normal spaces. I have the default Firefox font Times New Roman. DejaVu Serif is not default. If you see "Default font DejaVu Serif" in Firefox settings then it means your Firefox is set to use DejaVu Serif as the default font for text which doesn't specify a font. I don't have DejaVu Serif as a font option in Firefox 94.0.1 on Windows 10. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:28, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

What article is your screenshot of? I'm wondering if there are normal spaces in there along with the nonbreak-space. Maproom (talk) 19:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Create User page

Hi I want to create Wikipedia user page and need help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghaderimona (talk • contribs) 16:17, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ghaderimona: You're going to want to read Wikipedia:User pages. Just click on the red link in your username and you'll find a link that prompts you to start a new page. Be sure to read the link I provided to see what's allowed on your user page and what isn't. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:20, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Photo of Dr. Janina Scarlet

I'm trying to insert a photograph of Dr. Janina Scarlet. I took the picture myself and own the rights to it yet the system will not allow me to post it on her page. Can you help me?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janina_Scarlet

I tried to attach the image here and it won't work either.

Please help.

Dustin McGinnis

DMcGinnis13 (talk) 17:30, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

I have left you a welcome message on your talk page which includes details of how to upload images. Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

RFD

How do I list multiple redirects at RFD? 98.179.127.59 (talk) 18:26, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Use {{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes}} for each additional item you want to include in the listing. See the instructions in part II at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion#How_to_list_a_redirect_for_discussion RudolfRed (talk) 20:04, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much! 98.179.127.59 (talk) 01:34, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

How to make a new page

Hey I created an account a few minutes ago. How can I create a new page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twenty4marc (talk • contribs) 20:52, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Twenty4marc, you currently cannot create a page directly onto Wikipedia (it requires WP:AUTOCONFIRMED rights), but you can create a draft. Please note that there is a mountain of policies regarding articles, and you should probably read up on that before creating the draft. Sungodtemple (talk) 21:09, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Twenty4marc Creating a new article(not just a "page") is the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. It's usually recommended that you first edit existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. Using the new user tutorial also is helpful. Diving right in to creating articles can lead to frustration and disappointment unless you first understand Wikipedia.

If you still want to attempt to create a new article, please read Your First Article and then visit Articles for creation to create a draft. 331dot (talk) 21:14, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

BLP vs RS?

It is my understanding that WP:BLP policy applies everywhere on Wikipedia, including on talk pages, user pages and all other meta discussion.

I have information that a source that is on the "frequently discussed" WP:RS list, via a satellite social media account, has published provable (and frankly embarrassing) falsehoods. The problem is that these falsehoods tend to impugn the character of a real person who is discussed on Wikipedia, in a way that is currently very politically sensitive.

How can I bring up this issue properly, so that the source's reliability can be re-assessed?

174.93.70.56 (talk) 21:15, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

You can post at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard to get input on the source's reliability. Check WP:RSNP first to see if there is already consensus on it. RudolfRed (talk) 21:21, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

What I mean is, what do I do about the BLP issue? I can't think of a way to explain the issue with the content, without linking it or otherwise describing the claim in some detail. 174.93.70.56 (talk) 21:25, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

If the falsehoods are in an article, then challenge the content as not coming from a reliable source. If they're not in a Wikipedia article, there's nothing we can do. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

I still don't think I'm being understood. I am not trying to get Wikipedia to do anything about the falsehoods. I am not trying to fix a specific Wikipedia article. The source is currently considered reliable. I am trying to advocate for a downgrade of the source's deemed reliability. I am trying to not, personally, violate BLP policy while doing so. The difficulty is that - as far as I am aware - evidencing that the source spread falsehoods requires citing them. 174.93.70.56 (talk) 13:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

As above Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard is the correct place. You won't get into issues by linking to a page as part of a discussion, as long as you don't repeat things that might break BLP (such as commenting things about a person in such a way as to make people believe it is the truth, when it's not sourced). The very nature of the noticeboard requires that links be added, although a Facebook account is unlikely to change the reliability of a source. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

To clarify: I don't mean that someone on social media told me about the falsehood; I mean that the source used social media to spread the falsehood and I saw it there. 174.93.70.56 (talk) 15:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)