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September 30

How to link two separate pages of a newspaper article in a single reference

Hey whomever is reading,

I recently got access to Newspapers.com through the Wikipedia Library and I've been putting it to good use. I just started updating Margery C. Carlson with new sources from it and ran across a two-page newspaper article, see here and here. They're a part of the same article, just in a two-page spread in the newspaper and I can't clip them together. So, presuming I'm using Template:Cite News, what's the best way to include URL links to both of those pages in a single reference citation? Silverseren^C 02:47, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Silver seren: Here are the first hits from an archive search [1]:

• Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 60#Cite news - multiple URLs
• Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 70#News article on two pages
• Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 78#Multiple URLs (split file)

PrimeHunter (talk) 03:05, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, I see. Including it as an additional link under the pages parameter makes sense to me and seems like the better option to keep things looking nice, even if it isn't perfect. Thanks! Silverseren^C 03:09, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Would it be appropriate for me to contribute this page?

I'm a frequent user of Wikipedia, and a very occasional contributor (but not an expert on Wikipedia editing!). There is a page about me here: Stephen Robertson (computer scientist). I recently published a book ([2], available on open access) which I believe would be of interest to many readers of Wikipedia articles (I also made a great deal of use of Wikipedia in the writing of it, for which I am extremely grateful). My question is, would it be appropriate for me as author to contribute a page about the book to Wikipedia? Thanks for your help. Stephen Robertson (talk) 11:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Stephen Robertson Hello! Sorry about the block (I didn't do it), but hopefully you'll be able to deal with that. I'll add the book to the WP-article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Wait, it's there already. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:08, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes, as is an external link (added by Stephen Robertson) in the main text which links to some poetry he has written. The article needs clean-up with reliable secondary sources. Theroadislong has tagged it with COI today. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

(Note, I've just undone an unhelpful deletion of this section by an IP user). Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Stephen Robertson: Hi there! You should not be using Wikipedia to write your autobiography or promote your book. In those places where you have a conflict of interest, you may use the article talk page to submit suggestions for improvements with the {{request edit}} template (or use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard). Thanks, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

The user has also edited Martin Robertson (another article in dire need of sources), which, if they are who they claim to be, would be a further COI issue. Wikignome Wintergreen^talk 14:13, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Stephen Robertson: To answer your specific question: your book cannot have its own article unless your book is separately notable Notability for book is a high bar: see WP:NBOOK. Your book can be mentioned in an article about you. -Arch dude (talk) 14:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång, @Mike Turnbull, @GoingBatty, @Arch dude Thanks to all for comments. Block now resolved. I have in the past made (I believe minor, factual) modifications to the page about myself, also to those about my father and my grandmother . I apologise if these edits breached guidelines. I will use {{request edit}} in the future. Stephen Robertson (talk) 10:18, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

References

Category to use for WLM photography competition

In the WLM photography competition, in the update wizard, it asks to provide a category. However, there is not enough instructions or example or directions on the format on how to correctly enter the proper category to which I would like to upload. In my case, I added Category:East side of the Mysore Palace for my upload in the corresponding field, but the wizard still keeps saying "..recommend providing a category...". It is frustrating to know thaat wikipedia has tons of info about category, but does not have any info on how to enter a category :(

I think that you'll find a useful guide at Commons:Categories#Quick_guide. Note that you can only add categories that are already known to Commons: adding more is a complex task.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:48, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Shivamallika: Pinging user who asked the question. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:51, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Account or Page Name Change

I will be the Editor of a new page called Check Your Privilege. I have started out incorrectly using my name. I need to change it or start another account with that name. I tried and it said it was too close to my name. I cannot find the information on how to change or if an administrator needs to help me in the backend of Wiki. thanks nbottalico--Nbottalico (talk) 14:11, 30 September 2021 (UTC)--Nbottalico (talk) 14:11, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Nbottalico: change your name by abandoning this account and starting a new one. make sure your new user name is acceptable: see WP:USERNAME. You will never be "the editor" of a "page". We have articles, not pages, and no single person is "the editor": See WP:OWN. You are free to create a new article on any subject as long as that subject meets our only absolute requirement: it must be notable by our definition: WP:N. Any attempt to create an article about a non-notable subject is doomed to failure. Only after you are certain that other editors will agree that your subject is notable, proceed to create a draft for review: see WP:YFA. If you are associated with the subject, see WP:COI. Good luck! -Arch dude (talk) 14:23, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Most succinctly put. A decade or more of learning awaits, potentially. MinorProphet (talk) 19:18, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Reggaeton music

 Courtesy link: Reggaeton

Reggaeton music Was not originated in Puerto Rico it was originated and started in Panama I would like to see this corrected thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8081:6603:5c00:3022:cbb8:23d2:bcab (talk)

If you have a reliable source that says the genre started in Panama instead of in Puerto Rico, please provide it over at the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:38, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

The existing source is more nuanced than the interpretation in the article, and supports an origin in Panama.--Verbarson (talk) 12:46, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Impersonation of famous living people?

I'm going through wikipedia's username policies when I stumble across User:SmallishBeans. Clearly an impersonation of the youtuber, and its talk page is negative commentary towards the real SmallishBeans. Would this require a username change?

Thanks, -- Elytrian (talk) 15:33, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

That user is already indefinitely blocked for vandalism. But if they weren't, then yes probably they should change username. The relevant policy is WP:IMPERSONATE, and users can be blocked if their username looks like they're impersonating a famous person, and can be unblocked if they either change their name, or verify with Wikimedia that they actually are that person. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Elytrian: There's really not much to do as the account has been blocked. The messages on the talk page are templated warnings for what the user behind the account has done, and wouldn't have any bearing on SmallishBeans themselves. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your guys help! :D -- Elytrian (talk) 15:41, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

change username

Hello, i set up a username daggerjax and would like to change to David A. Green. Please advise how i can do this. thank you - --Daggerjax (talk) 18:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Daggerjax: Hello Daggerjax, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 19:00, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Daggerjax So I noticed that you posted information about yourself on your user page- that is not article space or space to draft an article, but a place to tell about yourself as a Wikipedia editor. That's why it leads off with "User:". If you are attempting to create an article about yourself, this is inadvisable, please see the autobiography policy. However, if you still wish to attempt it, you must use Articles for creation as new users cannot directly create articles.

It is also not necessarily advisable to use your real name as your username, but if you want to, proceed as the IP user advises. 331dot (talk) 19:04, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@Daggerjax: Also inadvisable is writing about yourself on existing articles, such as List of people who have walked across the United States#David_Green. In those situations where you have a conflict of interest, you may post your suggestions on the article talk page and use the {{request edit}} template (or use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 19:31, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Screwed up location of References on American Red Cross

Somehow I messed up when trying to edit the References and they have moved. They are no longer under the References tab but at the bottom of the page. Is there a way to fix this without messing up more? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by CClarkL (talk • contribs) 21:22, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@CClarkL:  Fixed in this edit. For instructions on how to add a new reference, see Help:Footnotes. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

(ec) CClarkL, referencing is tricky. The reference numbers are created automatically, you don't put them in yourself. The references go into the article at the point they are needed, and the software creates the numbered tags and shows the references in the reference section at the bottom. A simple explanation and instructions are at User:Yunshui/References for beginners. Be sure to include the title of the article used as a source and the author as well as the publication, date, and pages. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)