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August 4

Lua Error

Hi, I was attempting to add Acts of Parliament to List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom from 2022, however when adding the first one, it seems to have broken and I can't seem to find a fix for it. I really know little about Modules or how to fix formatting errors, so wondered if anyone could help. Tagging page creator and module creator. @Theknightwho PoliceSheep99 (talk) 01:17, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@PoliceSheep99: In [1] you first copied an existing row. It didn't break anything but looked pointless. Then you added a row with |private|i. {{Legislationuk}} is undocumented and I don't know how it works or what your code is supposed to do but the table will render if it's changed to |public|12 to be similar to the other rows. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

SECOND NOTICE: Archiving post at Closure Requests page

Should Wikipedia:Closure_requests#Wikipedia:Proposed_article_mergers#Merge_requests not have been archived by now? I posted this before, but it got archived without response. Please {{ping}} me when you respond. -- Jax 0677 (talk) 11:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: I don't know why it didn't archive. I've done so manually now given the backlog has been addressed. Femke (talk) 06:56, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia page verification

FYI

 – previous help desk thread

From the previous question I asked, I got an answer that my draft may not be reviewed and published, because the page description is too short Is there a minimum page character or words? And please, I'm creating a business page for a business, I'm confused as to how to go about citation for that. Can I site the business "Google my business" profile? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazario90 (talk • contribs) 12:10, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

There is no absolute minimum in wordcount, however, articles must at least big enough to not fall under the WP:A1 and/or WP:A3 speedy deletion criterions, and indicate hoe the subject is sufficiently notable for inclusion. Draft:Macnuc services is not in danger of getting A1'd or A3'd, however, it currently completely fails verification and as such also doesn't demonstrate how Macnuc services meets Wikipedia's definition of a noteable company. I do not know what exactly "Google my business" profile" refers to, but in general company profiles tend to be either too short and/or connected with the subject and as such don't realy help here. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:18, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Nazario90, I'm afraid that, like many people, you have totally misunderstood what Wikipedia is. "Creating a business page for a business" is something you might do on social media or a business directory: it is absolutely not something to do on Wikipedia, because it is promotion, which is forbidden anywhere in Wikipedia. If at some point there is an article about your business, the article will not belong to you, will not be controlled by you, will not be for your business's benefit except incidentally, will not necessarily contain what you want it to say, and should be based almost entirely on what people wholly unconnected with your business have chosen to publish about it, not on what you or your associates say or want to say. ColinFine (talk) 16:28, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Suggest Edits

Im inquiring about an addition to the Williamsburg Bridge page. There is a section titled popular culture. It came to my awareness that in the introduction to the independent news show Democracy Now, the Williamsburg Bridge shows up briefly, for about three seconds. How can I add that to the section? Can I use a photograph from the introduction as a source?

Best, HeyNYC123 (talk) 12:31, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't understand how a three-second news clip of the object in question qualifies as popular culture. Bazza (talk) 15:27, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

It doesn't. Unfortunately, many Wikipedia contributors seem to think that 'I saw it on TV' is sufficient grounds for inclusion in an article popular culture section. See MOS:POPCULT for what actually qualifies: content citing secondary sources which cover the subject's cultural impact in some depth. Anything else is trivia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:58, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Tag visibility

Just wondering why this dating of a tag has rendered it invisible and how it can be rendered visible again. Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:17, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Per the template documentation, that's how that template works. On or after the date specified it should become visible. DonIago (talk) 16:25, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

It has specified today's date so, can I expect it to be rendered invisible until midnight? Seems rather a flaw to render it invisible on the day of addition. Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:32, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Have effectively answered my own question. Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:42, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of my Wikipedia page

my page, entitled "Ezra Bayda" is being considered for deletion. how can i add my input?

i would agree to deletion because someone keeps putting material on my site which, although not exactly libelous, is inaccurate and negative. i don't know what to do about it.

thank you for your help. 76.176.202.18 (talk) 16:58, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

The discussion of the article is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ezra Bayda, you should participate there. Whether an article is deleted or not almost always comes down to whether or not the subject is notable enough to have an article about them, so that's going to be the focus of the discussion. You should be aware that claiming ownership of content is very much frowned upon on Wikipedia, that is simply not how it works Beeblebrox (talk) 17:06, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

UK Independence Party

I am the National Party Chairman of the UK Independence Party and need to edit our WIKIPEDIA page to correctly reflect its history and current status. I cannot do this because the page is protected by another user who has no involvement with the party itself.

Can control please be handed to me so the page can be updated correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjamin L Walker (talk • contribs) 18:39, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not work that way, and you shouldn't be editing the page in any event. Instead, make edit requests on Talk:UK Independence Party, complete with sources that support the edits you wish to be made. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 18:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

You do realize that absolutely anybody could open a Wikipedia account in that name and claim to be the Chairman of UKIP? Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Benjamin L Walker: Please also disclose your conflict of interest on your user page - see WP:DISCLOSE for details. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 02:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia

While reading articles, the sections can be expanded by clicking on section title.

When the section is read, there should be a way to shrink that section so that the page remains compact.

This can be done in number of ways.

Method 1

When we click or tap on next section, the previous section should shrink. It can be opened again by clicking on its title.

Only when the article is to be printed all sections should expand as given in settings.

This facility will help to keep the reading compact.

Method 2

In setting please give a option, "close previous section while expanding next section".

Will this method be useful to readers? Can it be done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreerangkaulgi (talk • contribs) 18:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Is this specific to one of the mobile apps? Expanding sections isn't a thing on the desktop or mobile sites. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 18:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Shreerangkaulgi: The mobile version does have expanding and collapsing level 2 sections, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia#History. You can collapse an expanded section by tapping its heading. You cannot do it at the end of the section. See mw:Extension talk:MobileFrontend for ways to give feedback. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:18, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Google search results

I have created an article for a screenwriter more than 4 months ago, even though is published and approved by Wikipedia, when I look for ´Ron Chepesiuk´in Google, no Wikipedia article appears in the first 5 pages (haven't tried further as is pointless). I would think that of a writer/journalist is published and approved, it should be in the first page of Google results when looking for it, but this is not the case, not even googling 'Ron Chepesiuk Wikipedia' shows up.

Can I get any help about how to solve this? Thanks Ivan Aranda Alvarez (talk) 21:31, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ivan Aranda Alvarez: Please check your talk page. The article was declined. -Arch dude (talk) 21:57, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ivan Aranda Alvarez: Drafts are intentionally NOINDEXed on account of being unfinished drafts. We do the same thing to userpages and user subpages as well, for similar reasons. Search engines that respect robots.txt (such as Google, as well as most other reputable ones) will thus not pull them up. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 22:12, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Ivan Aranda Alvarez: You created Draft:Ron Chepesiuk in February. It was declined and has been deleted on your request. User:Kavin Jasel created Ron Chepesiuk in April. Your acount has also edited it. It is currently the sixth Google hit for me. Which of the pages are you referring to? Are you also Kavin Jasel? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter and others: that article has very little prose. Does it look acceptable that way? 71.228.112.175 (talk) 05:59, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

The prose was removed as unsourced.[2] Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons applies to the article. I'm not going to work on it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:48, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Should it be deleted? 71.228.112.175 (talk) 09:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)