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May 11

Added "Gallery" and uploaded images but images not shown when update applied

I want to add an image gallery to page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deo_Damla

I used the text editor and toolbar buttons and ended up with: ==Gallery== <gallery> [[File:Deo Damla peak from approach valley Nanda Devi north sanctuary Thu 19 Jun 1980.jpg|thumb|Deo Damla peak from approach valley]] [[File:Deo Damla peak from above camp2 SW ridge Nanda Devi north sanctuary Sun 22 Jun 1980.jpg|thumb|Deo Damla peak from above camp2 SW ridge]] [[File:Deo Damla peak from camp3 SW ridge Nanda Devi north sanctuary Mon 23 Jun 1980.jpg|thumb|Deo Damla peak from camp3 SW ridge]] </gallery>

All 3 image files uploaded OK but when I save my edit the "Gallery" heading is present but no photos are displayed.

What should I do to fix this?

I have fixed it for you, the square brackets were not needed. Theroadislong (talk) 10:53, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I'm a newby contributor "just trying" without doing any proper study of tutorials. I've got some more historic photos to contribute, so off I go. Asmdorje (talk) 06:32, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

@Asmdorje: Are you uploading photos that you took yourself or did you find them somewhere online? If you didn't take these photos yourself, then you can't really claim them as your c:COM:Own work for Commons' purposes and you will need to get the c:COM:CONSENT of the person who did take them. If you did take these photos yourself, then you should try to upload them with their original c:COM:EXIF data instead of scanning them; in the latter case, you may be asked to verify your COM:CONSENT as explained in c:COM:VRT#Licensing images: when do I contact VRT? because high resolution scans often are tagged for review per c:COM:EVID. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

@Asmdorje You haven't yet said -- did you take those pictures yourself, 40 years ago? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 08:08, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

(I know it has only been one day since MarchJuly asked you...) 73.127.147.187 (talk) 08:09, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Slurs

There was a sexual slur on a page and I wanted to replace it with a non slur that meant the same thing (I was replacing dykes with the word gays) and it got removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:B125:AC8C:253D:CFBD:C63F:D432 (talk) 18:31, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Which article are you referring to? It's difficult to give a good answer without more context. 331dot (talk) 18:57, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Not all gay people are dykes. We need more context.

Asparagusus (interaction) 14:44, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

The original wording may be appropriate. Wikipedia is not censored. Mjroots (talk) 08:01, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

How to request a section be edited for poor wording.

Under variants on this page,; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_208_Caravan There is the statement ". While the 192 hp (143 kW) more powerful PT6A-140 gives a 11-knot (20 km/h) higher cruise speed". It appears, when I read it, that this plane model has a 192hp engine. The engines are much higher power than that, I believe they meant it was 192hp above the "norm".

How can I contact the person who wrote the article, and ask they consider rephrasing it.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rem1061 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Cessna 208 Caravan isn't protected in any way, so you could edit the article yourself as long as the changes were reliably sourced. Alternatively, you could put in an edit request at Talk:Cessna 208 Caravan.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:26, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Rem1061 you can go to the "View history" tab of the article and then "Find addition/removal" and search for 192. It was added here by User:Marc Lacoste, who is still active. Linking their user name and signing the post should notify them. TSventon (talk) 20:32, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Rem1061: I think the wording is clear. The PT6A-140 is "192hp more powerful", not that it has 192hp. 108.52.196.8 (talk) 21:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Rem1061 In my opinion, this phrase is ambiguous. The parenthetical expression in the middle does break it up in the original prose. It should either be a "192hp-more-powerful" engine, or else a "192hp, more powerful" engine (which means it's 192hp total, which is more powerful than the original engine). But it's hard to include the 143 kW phrase in there.

How about "the PT6A-140, which is 192hp (143kW) more powerful than the standard engine, gives a 11-knot (20 km/h) higher cruise speed..."? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 04:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello there! This part is in the Cessna 208 Caravan#Variants section, describing the larger 208B Grand Caravan variant, stating with a more powerful 867 hp (647 kW) Pratt and Whitney Canada PT6A-140 [...] While the 192 hp (143 kW) more powerful PT6A-140 gives a 11-knot (20 km/h) higher cruise speed. I think it's pretty clear the PT6A-140 produces 867hp, not 192hp. This is 192hp more than the 675hp of the regular PT6A-114 variant. Reading the whole paragraph avoids any ambiguity. It may be improved, but it's not easy as it's a list of technical details. Note this was the result of a long discussion, as I proposed to show those details in a table, while other seasoned aviation editors preferred to show it in prose.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 05:58, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes, you are right that reading the whole paragraph helps make it clear. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 08:11, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Editing a draft that's failed article submission

I noticed there isn't an article in main for the 3rd Fowl Twins book 'The Fowl Twins Get What They Deserve', but found a draft that someone else tried to submit as an article. It failed and it's just sitting there.

So I'm wondering since it's been tagged as a failed submission, is there a special process for attempting to improve it if I chose to, or letting other editors know about it? Or can I just go ahead like it's a regular article?

It kind of feels like I'm jumping on someone else's work. KaraLG84 (talk) 21:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Artemis Fowl Twins: Get What They Deserve was only declined not rejected, so anyone is free to edit it and re-submit, it only has one sentence in any case. Theroadislong (talk) 21:40, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah ok. Thanks. KaraLG84 (talk) 22:00, 11 May 2022 (UTC)