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January 3

Draft: Uman

Hi my article was rejected for notability issues yet I have articles citations from the New York Times, Paris Review, The New Yorker, Brooklyn Rail, as well as this adria work is listed is Mutual Art, Artsty,

and are represented by a blue chip (Gagosian, Zwirner institution that represent high value notable artist) gallery; Hauser and Wirth which have their own Wikipedia page as well as other artist on their page. They are also notable because they would be one of the only artist from Somalia that is recognized in the greater western artworks which is very difficult in of itself. Nabil vega (talk) 00:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft: Uman Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 01:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

It wasn't rejected, Nabil vega, it was declined. There's a difference. Here's a sample (with my emphasis): Uman, a Somali-born artist, gained notability for her unique and original approach to art, blending cross-cultural, art historical, and textile-based references in her paintings, sculptures, and assemblage works. Originality and uniqueness call for reliable sources. One source is provided: a page for a gallery (not in the sense of "art museum", but in the sense of "art dealer") that has a financial interest in adding to the appeal of Uman's work in order to increase the chances of sales. -- Hoary (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Nabil vega: Please discuss this on the draft article's talk page. Please first read WP:CSMN, and point out to the reviewers a very short list (two or three) of the references that best establish notability by our definition. -Arch dude (talk) 01:55, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi I just removed the links provided by the art galleries she is represeneted by and put independent art institutions. Also added that she is having her first solo show in a museum Aldrich Contemporary Art Museum 2024. Nabil vega (talk) 01:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on List of Malayalam films of 2024

Reference help requested. reFill or reFill2 feature is NOT working. Is there any other tool to fix CS1 errors or any option to enable some auto-fix feature for the page? Thanks,
Anish Viswa 04:17, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Anishviswa: Hi there! reFill 2 worked for me in this edit, although I'll go back and tweak the results. GoingBatty (talk) 06:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

YouTube Channel Link Not Working in Infobox, glitch?

I am trying to put in an infobox over at Draft:Kane Pixels, and for some reason every time I try to put in the Channel Link Name as "Kane Pixels" it loads it as 'Pixels Kane Pixels" instead of how I typed it. Also, trying to put in the YouTube channel link following the instructions on the infobox is not working either. I checked other functioning infoboxes from other YouTubers (DanTDM, Jacksepticeye, and PewDiePie) and could not figure out what I was doing wrong. I will do my best to provide more information if necessary. I would greatly appreciate any help on this, thanks! Not0nshoree (talk) 06:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. @Not0nshoree: |channel_name=, |channel_url= and |channel_direct_url= are URL-holding parameters, they respectively construct the URL's the following way: https://www.youtube.com/user/channel_name (expects a username, this URL format is afaik legacy), https://www.youtube.com/channel/channel_url (ecpects a channel ID) and https://www.youtube.com/channel_direct_url (can use any of the above formats, plus the c/name format, and the @name format). All three of them break when containing spaces. The link text can be altered with |channel_display_name= if nessesary. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Marking a page as needing a gender rewrite

Is there a procedure (ideally, a template) to mark a page as needing a rewrite to correct pronouns and names throughout the article? See Talk:Daniel Küblböck. Anonymous-232 (talk) 06:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Offhand, Anonymous-232, I don't know. I took up your suggestion of seeing Talk:Daniel Küblböck. There doesn't seem to be agreement there on which pronoun(s) to use, so "a rewrite to correct pronouns and names" would seem presumptuous. Get agreement first. (For this purpose, you might try launching a "request for comment".) -- Hoary (talk) 07:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I think the last discussion on the subject's Talk page was pretty clear "If someone can come back with cast-iron sourced evidence that the individual definitively transitioned and was known by the new name". Do you have this evidence Anonymous ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Anonymous-232: To answer your general question, one could use something like {{copy edit|reason=correcting pronouns and names throughout the article per talk page discussion}}. However, getting agreement first on the talk page is important. GoingBatty (talk) 15:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

LOC MARC?

The Comparison of country codes lists one as the "LOC MARC code". But is "LOC MARC code" an established term? Is it appropriate? Wouldn't maybe just "MARC code" be better in the table? --KnightMove (talk) 07:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

MARC is a catalogue system used by libraries. LOC is the Library of Congress. "LOC MARC code" means the country code used by the Library of Congress in their MARC system. I don't know the field. Do all MARC implementations have country codes, and use the same codes? If not then "LOC" is necessary. It varies which countries are recognized by eachother, and new countries are sometimes created. I wouldn't be surprised if some MARC implementations reflect this. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

The last page of this introduction may assist. Country codes are used within MARC to record:

• 008/15-17 Fixed-Length Data Elements / Place of publication, production, or execution
• 044 Country of Producer Code
• 535 Location of Originals/Duplicates Note / Repository location code
• 775 Other Edition Entry / Country code
• 851 Location / Repository location cod
• 852 Country code

Furthermore: "The Library of Congress is the maintenance agency for this list" (second to last paragraph), perhaps this is why "LOC MARC" was used. The LOC may have started MARC, but it is now international in scope; from MARC standards we see "Currently MARC 21 has been implemented successfully by The British Library, the European Institutions and the major library institutions in the United States, and Canada". The LOC uses the Library of Congress Classification scheme for its holdings, but these then map onto MARC for international collaboration in the same way the British Library (which uses a mixture of LCC and FAST) and Dewey do. MARC is for data interchange, not a classification system in itself. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I can't access my Wikipedia account

hi, my name is Mohammad Javad Sargazi wiht artist name Alenso, i can't access to my account I'm living in iran i received error ip or i don't know i cant access to ny account maybe i foreget my mail or password i can't recive link for resert password idont no exacly what is problem, my username is Alenso, please help me thanks 5.125.123.156 (talk) 13:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

you'll have to create a new account. ltbdl (talk) 13:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks 91.236.230.91 (talk) 14:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

You will want to identify your new account as a successor to your old account, saying something on your user page like "I am User5678, I was User1234 but lost access". 331dot (talk) 14:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Since you had no surviving edits for User:Alenso, I don't think it matters very much whether you link your new user account to it or not. I note that the user page User:Alenso was deleted in August 2022 for reason "U5: Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host". That fact, together with the fact that above you refer to Alenso as "artist name" as well as username, makes me wonder if you have made the same mistake as many other artists, and thought that Wikipedia was a place to promote yourself.

My apologies if I have jumped to a wrong conclusion; but if that was your idea, please read NOTPROMO, AUTOBIO and NARTIST. ColinFine (talk) 16:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

editing a page

Hi, I am trying to edit a page; the page for Arnold Krupat, which I am editing at his request. The edits seem to publish ok. Then I close out and then reopen the page just to check, and the edits are there. But, after a minute or two, when I double-check, the page reverts to the original. Could you please help? Thank you. Vmk61 (talk) Vmk61 (talk) 17:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

• You need to look at the many messages on User talk:Vmk61. Drmies (talk) 17:34, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Vmk61: Hello! Other editors revert your edits and they explain in the summary why they do it. Perhaps, you didn't look at the history of the article. You should. And, yeah, also look at your user talk page, as Drmies noted. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 17:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Vmk61: If you are editing on behalf of the subject, you really shouldn't be directly editing the article as you have a conflict of interest. You should be submitting edit requests over at Talk:Arnold Krupat. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Page counts for container categories

On the top right of the Category:Orphaned articles page, there's a total count of how many pages are in the monthly subcategories. Would it be possible to show the total on other maintenance/container categories pages that have different subcategories, such as Category:WikiProject templates with unknown parameters? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: The table with the counts is made by {{Parent monthly clean-up category}} which calls {{Orphaned articles progress}} which calls {{Progress box}} which uses Module:Progress box which has a loop cycling through months to guess the names of the subcategories. Templates don't have access to the name of subcategories. They can test whether a given category name exists and how many members it has. That works for monthly categories with systematic names but not for the various WikiProject names in Category:WikiProject templates with unknown parameters. Something new would have to be coded with the WikiProject names stored in a wiki page which would have to be updated when categories are added or removed. It's a non-trivial task. I'm not doing it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks for the explanation. I was hoping that someone knew of something existing that could be used. I don't want anyone to do a huge amount of work just so I can enjoy see a total number going down as I work through the 400+ subcategories. GoingBatty (talk) 01:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: The number of subcategories may soon make it impossible anyway. If the total is displayed automatically in a wiki page then each subcategory has to be counted with {{PAGESINCATEGORY:}} which is considered an expensive parser function by MediaWiki. 500 are allowed per page. Category:WikiProject templates with unknown parameters currently has 488 subcategories. The category page uses 1 expensive parser function now so there would be room for 11 more subcategories, assuming everything is done without other expensive parser function calls. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

consejos populares of Cuba

In several pages of Consejos populares of Cuba, the ward isn’t mentioned as one on the official website, but is on other sources. I believe that it’s likely they have changed them from over time, but there is no source that has said it. Just in Camajuaní, there is 4 of these, being Sagua la Chica, La Quinta, Vega de Palma, and Sabana. Should these “wards” be mentioned as former wards, or as disputed, or never a ward? Sources for them being a ward:Not said, but there is 13 wards in Camajuaní on the map instead of 9 on pg. 4, 5, seen on map, mentions Vega de Palma as a ward, mentions it having 13 wards, etc. While the official website for the municipality saids there’s 9 https://www.soycamajuani.gob.cu/es/nuestra-region/region-camajuani/sobre-nosotros. This is not only Camajuaní, with Dos Hermanas in Encrucijada not appearing or being mentioned as a ward on most sources, but is mentioned as one on the official website https://www.somosencrucijada.gob.cu/delegados/34-politica-y-gobierno/delegados/86-consejo-popular-dos-hermanas/amp. CubanoBoi (talk) 22:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

I would recommend posting about this on the article's talk page, where there are likely to be people specifically informed about the topic to discuss changes with. Remsense留 23:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)