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November 17

Donations

To who it may concern: I couldn’t find a more appropriate link to write this. I donated again either yesterday or the day before and have donated several years in a row to you but not only am I still getting the donation pop ups, but apparently I’m getting internet obstruction to Wikipedia and I’d like to know if it is Wikipedia that’s causing the problem with my latest Wikipedia result. In other words, is Wikipedia not recognizing my donation to your latest request and is doing something on their end to cause this new issue. I know-this sounds silly to think Wikipedia would do this, but it’s not happening with other internet pages I have open. It’s cutting in and out at a very fast pace, sort of like a heartbeat, probably around 60-90 flickers per minute, and has a box notification about the Wikipedia internet interface and also has something about donations, but it’s flickering so fast I can’t read it all. Or could you please direct me to the correct department for this matter?

Thanks, and kind regards, Debra Poley 96.18.12.231 (talk) 00:48, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi! There's two parts here. Wikipedia doesn't know whether or not you have donated. If you create an account, you can supress all of the donation request banners.

It seems extremely unlikely that Wikipedia is in any way effecting your net connection. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Unless you open many pages at once, as one does. Or at least as I do. Sometimes. —Tamfang (talk) 02:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Here is the Contact page for the Wikimedia Foundation. You will see a specific email address there for questions about donations. The WMF has no way of connecting a specific donation to your IP address and even if that was possible, it would be a privacy violation. I too consider it highly unlikely that Wikipedia is related to your screen flicker problem. Cullen328 (talk) 04:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

reasons for piping

Is there an obscure feature that sometimes requires piping with matching text, like [[Example article|example article]]? And have I misremembered/misunderstood how to use nowiki?? —Tamfang (talk) 02:12, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Tamfang I think [[example article]] works, and WP:PIPING deprecates

N [[Public transport|public transport]]

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The WP:NOWIKI code is <nowiki></nowiki>. TSventon (talk) 02:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I have fixed the nowiki tags. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

D'oh! —Tamfang (talk) 02:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

There is often a shortcut with a format like [[WP:PIPING]], i.e. WP, colon, the word you are asking about in capitals. TSventon (talk) 02:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

This is usually a bug within Visual Editor in my experience. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Map overlay

Trying again. I need some help with the map overlay. On my sandbox, I've been working with the {{Location map many}} template and trying to overlay File:Blank map of Europe 1914.svg (or something similar!) on top for contemporary borders. I can't seem to figure it out. Any help would be well appreciated; thanks in advance. ThaesOfereode (talk) 03:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

When did Wikipedia begin Sponsoring Disinformation

Clearly not a help desk question. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 03:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

wikipedia used to be a great source of information. I've donated to you several times. Now, I consistently see political bias garbage that does not belong in anything I search whether it be current events and people, or historical events. I want the truth, not BS through an agenda filter. My question is- When exactly did you become so corrupt? Wikipedia didn't used to be this way. Were you paid or bribed, or was it of free will? 2600:6C5E:1E00:34E:55EE:385F:5BBF:DC (talk) 03:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC) Contents on Wikipedia are written by volunteers, monetary contributions do not affect what can be written here. If you disagree with anything on the website and you have at least one reliable source backing up your claim, feel free to make the changes yourself. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Article moved to mainspace

Hi - I moved an article to mainspace Sarah Roberts (subject of vampire legend), but it was in my sandbox, not draft, and now I can't use my sandbox. I'm not sure what to do about this. Thanks. Blackballnz (talk) 05:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Blackballnz, you can edit User:Blackballnz/sandbox by clicking on the link and then clicking on the blue link to User:Blackballnz/sandbox near the top of the page. If you want to create more articles you could use Wikipedia:Userspace drafts which avoid turning your main sandbox into a redirect when you publish an article. TSventon (talk) 05:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks TSventon (talk) - do you mean I should I click the blue edit button? But when I do this, a box comes up which tells me its a redirect to the Sarah Roberts page (as above). I can no longer edit my sandbox. Blackballnz (talk) 08:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Blackballnz You can edit your sandbox, but my instructions seem to be insufficient. You can click on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Blackballnz/sandbox&redirect=no and then on edit. Or you could follow the instructions at Help:Redirect#How it appears to the user. TSventon (talk) 08:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks TSventon (talk), but I'm getting the same outcome. When I click on the link you gave me, it takes me to my sandbox page, then when I click on 'edit' it tells me the page is a redirect. I could unclick the 'redirect this page' (which is ticked). What I really want to do is completely separate my sandbox from the page that is now in mainspace. I've had a read of the redirection info & I'm thinking I should ask an admin to delete the redirect. Does that make sense? Blackballnz (talk) 06:12, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Blackballnz. Try this clicking on User:Blackballnz/sandbox (it looks the same as the link posted above but it's not) and then clicking "Edit" at the top of the page. That should open the editing window and you should then be able to WP:BLANK the sandbox so that it no longer redirects to the article. As for the article you created, please remove the MOS:ALLCAPS text from the article. Please also try to figure out some relevant Wikipedia:Template index/WikiProject banners to add to the article's talk page and perhaps a few more relevant WP:CATEGORIES for the article.-- Marchjuly (talk) 06:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Marchjuly (talk) - if I go into 'edit source' then I can remove everything, which is this (below). Is this what you mean by blanking? And thanks for the tip about banners/categories etc. I'll get on to that.

{{Redirect category shell|{{R from move}}}}

Blackballnz (talk) 07:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

After opening up the source editing window, just delete everything you see, click "Show preview" to check you got it all and then click "Publish changes". I think that should return you sandbox to normal. For future reference, you probably should use either WP:DRAFTS or WP:USD for working on drafts because then all you need to do is move the page and not worry about the redirecting of your main user sandbox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:48, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Marchjuly (talk), that has worked. This was my first article direct to mainspace, and I realised almost immediately that I hadn't used the right format. Blackballnz (talk) 08:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Finding out the creator of a previously deleted article

I can find deleted articles created by user by looking at their "articles created" at the bottom and the Xtools dash will show deleted articles as well. Righteous Vendetta has been previously deleted by an AfD and re-created. The page log doesn't show anything about what happened before the deletion. Is there a tool to look up who created the article the first time around? Graywalls (talk) 05:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't know a tool, but User:Mikmania said they wrote it at the AfD and they were informed of the AfD on their talk page. TSventon (talk) 05:55, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

If the creator had left a comment like that, then you can go use the Xtool to see what they created, but I'm looking for a similar tool to look up creator of a deleted article. I want to find who created Red Cord Records the first time around, but I can't find it. Graywalls (talk) 05:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps you could ask at WP:REFUND who created the article? TSventon (talk) 06:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I know asking someone with admin user rights is always an option, but I was hoping for self-serve solution similar to Xtools, so I don't have to ask each time. Graywalls (talk) 07:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Looks Like I found by chance the First creator of Red Cord Records. If you look at the TP of User:Labelman77, they were informed of the Speedy Deletion of the article.

I found it via the "Missbrauchsfilter-Logbuch" (Because my interface is in German, this should translate to MisuseFilterLog (?)) of the article, where the user was logged. Hope this helps! Maresa63 ^Talk 08:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

That was the creator of the version Fastily deleted on 13 October 2011. JaeNewly created the version deleted at afd in September 2012. See authors of deleted revisions. —Cryptic 12:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

When you pulled this up, I see there are several users with deleted revs. From the several on the list, how do you read the list to narrow down which one is the creator? Graywalls (talk) 16:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Api (sandbox). —Cryptic 07:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Presumably [1] doesnt give you the page creator from 2017? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

It does, but so does history. Graywalls was asking for the creator of the deleted 2012 version, which my api links show. —Cryptic 12:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Facebook link

How can I add facebook link in Infobox Wikipedia user? CometVolcano (talk) 15:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Why would you want to? We have zero interest in promoting your off Wikipedia activities. Theroadislong (talk) 15:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

but there is an option? --CometVolcano (talk) 15:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I wonder if @CometVolcano is talking about Template:Infobox Wikipedia user? qcne (talk) 15:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes. I wonder what Theroadislong was thinking? --CometVolcano (talk) 15:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Probably thought you meant to put a Facebook link into an existing article.

@CometVolcano just put your Facebook profile name (from the URL) into the field, i.e:

| facebook = joeblogg874

Be mindful that by doing this you are potentially linking your real-life personal information with your Wikipedia account, which is usually discouraged for privacy reasons. qcne (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

You have requested deeltion of your user page ten times now. Please stop wasting peoples time here. Theroadislong (talk) 08:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

My own picture in commons

How can I upload my own picture in wikipedia commons? CometVolcano (talk) 15:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

See the guide at Wikipedia:Uploading images. Yes, as long as you own the copyright and irrevocably license it under a suitable free license. How do you want to use that picture? The use of images on Wikipedia is governed by the Wikipedia:Image use policy. Donald Albury 16:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC) Edited - Donald Albury 16:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I want to use the picture in my userpage only. --CometVolcano (talk) 19:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

If you own the copyright, or the owner of the copyright has released the photo under an acceptable free license, just follow the guide for uploading images. You can then link to the image file from your user page. I will advise you to think first about how much information about yourself you want to put on your userpage. That photo will be visible to all of the world, and if you later remove it, it will still be accessible in the edit history. Donald Albury 19:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

editing

How can I edit (replace) the picture on 'Jacques Ogg'? NLBK17 (talk) 16:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Replace it with what? If it is a picture to which you hold the copyright (typically, you operated the camera yourself) then you can upload it to Commons (see WP:Upload) and then edit the article Jacques Ogg to change the name of the image.

If you do not hold the copyright, it is harder - you would need to contact the copyright holder and persuade them to license the picture in a way that Commons would accept: see WP:image use policy. ColinFine (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Anyone familiar with Turkish...

...who can translate this source for Mount Okmok, or at least say whether the DeepL translation is accurate enough to be usable as a source? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jo-Jo Eumerus,

See WP:TRANSLATE. Also, just a question, but why would the source be in Turkish? It's 5,895 miles to Türkiye! And where did you find this source (I'm just curious)? Anyways, that page should be helpful.

Warmly,

Avishai - @Avishai11

Avishai11 (talk) 19:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

That seems to be more about translating articles than sources, though? Volcanic ash can make it quite far, Aleutians to Türkiye is a small hop. Found it on Google Scholar. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus If I were you, I might consider also going to Wikipedia:Translators available and finding someone fluent in Turkish, otherwise, you might want to use Google Translate and summarize the source, and if it doesn’t provide the article with any new info, don’t use it. @QalasQalas is fluent in Turkish, and is apparently the only Turkish translator active in the past 2-3 months. Best, @Avishai11 Avishai11 (talk) 01:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Desktop layout

How to you change mobile to desktop layout without submitting an article? NoBrainFound (talk) 17:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Bottom of the page, there's a "Desktop" button (when on mobile) and vise versa. You can also simply change the URL to remove the .m. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

New Article in Mainspace

I am trying to create a new article in mainspace called "Dissenting POWs: From Vietnam’s Hoa Lo Prison to America Today". I have it written in my sandbox, but when I click on the red link to create the new article I get a message saying "This page is on the title blacklist". I have tried several different formulations of the title and get the same message. It seems any new article I create is being blocked. I have written a number of article for Wikipedia and have never had this issue. Can someone help?JohnKent (talk) 18:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

It looks like it's because you're using a curly quote (’), when you need to use a straight one ('). Try that and hopefully it'll work! CoconutOctopus talk 18:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. That was the problem.JohnKent (talk) 21:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@JohnKent: In addtion to what's been posted above, if you move User:JohnKent/sandbox to the mainspace, you're going to run into a similar problem to what's being encountered above at #Article moved to mainspace by another user. A redirect is going to be automatically left that sends those, including your yourself, trying to access your "User:JohnKent/sandbox" to the article you create. For future reference, it's probably better to either create a regular draft or a user space draft and work on your drafts there and then move those pages instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestions.JohnKent (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)