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Image:Crappy Tire Enterance ne.JPG

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Image:Crappy Tire Enterance ne.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nenyedi (notify | contribs).
  • The image has now been replaced with a smaller resolution version in PNG format instead of JPEG. — Xtreme racer 22:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Why was the original high-resolution JPEG photograph replaced by a lower-resolution PNG version? —Bkell (talk) 22:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Because it was an overly large file for Wikipedia. At 1.45mb it is extremely large image to illustrate the front of a Canadian Tire Store. Xtreme racer 02:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The size of a file is not an issue on Wikipedia. All images are resized into small thumbnails automatically when they are included in an article, so the image that is downloaded by the reader is much smaller (in pixels and bytes) than the original. But it is better to have high-resolution images uploaded, so that if someone wants to use the image for some other purpose they have the highest-resolution image available. Furthermore, by uploading a PNG version you have actually exacerbated the problem—photographs are almost always much better compressed using JPEG compression than PNG compression. The 282-pixel-wide thumbnail image generated from the JPEG is only 12 kilobytes in size, while the same-resolution PNG thumbnail is 72 kilobytes (six times larger). Please read Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload. —Bkell (talk) 03:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • So, uh, why do we have this blurry, pejoratively titled image here anyways? --Haemo 03:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Metro Transit 2-color.gif

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Image:Www.wesleyjohnston.com-users-ireland-maps-counties-londonderry.gif

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  • Orphaned, legacy image so no uploader information. Tagged as PD-release, but no evidence that the copyright holder has released it. B 02:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:She_Don't.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Eduemoni (notify | contribs).
Check the article She Don't and see if it doesn't increase understanding in a way words cannot. Eduemoni[[User Talk:↑talk↓ 17:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - it doesn't increases it at all. The article mention the clip's existence and that her ex-boyfriend takes part on it. I don't need to see a screengrab with her face to understand what's in the article. Eduemoni, please, make sure you understand WP:NFCC#8. --Abu badali (talk) 17:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Abu, of course I understand what WP:NFCC#8 talks about, specially in this section. Non-free media files are not used if they can be replaced by text that serves a similar function. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 01:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. Thus, delete. Anrie 14:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Fake Photograph as BuriedAlive.jpg

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Image:Fake Photograph as BuriedAlive.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Hare-Yukai (notify | contribs).
  • Picture is not used in any articles. Plus, this picture with the dotted line is different from this picture [1], which the uploader apparently is trying his hardest to discredit. — Blueshirts 05:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]
  • Delete - In addition to Blueshirt's rationale, I'd like to add that no source is provided for the image. There is only an unverified assertion that it is in the public domain. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, image is only being used for purposes of original research. —Angr 17:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, per above... Nat Tang ta | co | em 18:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep we JUST had a IFD on this less than 3 weeks ago[2]. There's no reason to nominate this again so soon. And it's not original research in the mainspace, it's used on talk pages to discuss something. That's perfectly ok, it's a talk page, people talk -Nard 15:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's unencyclopedic and I see no reason for the picture to be there. It's a doctored photograph used by nanking massacre deniers (or made by Hare-Yukai himself)to discredit a real photograph. It doesn't even look the same as the photograph it's trying to discredit. The man with his arm pointing toward the camera has his face and torso mashed and narrowed, whereas it looks normal in the undoctored photograph. There simply is no reason for this shoddily made crap to exist anywhere here, and it's not even good enough to be used as "evidence" for deniers. Blueshirts 19:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I think there could be some use for this, but also I object to the re-listing of a picture because the last time it was suggested the reviewing admin gave what a majority here may consider the "wrong answer". If it is "keep" again, will this be listed a third time? John Smith's 22:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Image kept. Image is considered in the public domain until proven otherwise and as such maybe used on talk pages to illustrate the issues being discussed. Discussion on a talk page does not constitute original research. -Nv8200p talk 18:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Space & Missile Systems Center.jpg

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  • Unnecessary non-free screshot showing an athlete on uniforms, used to illustrate the information that he played for this team. Doesn't seem to add any noteworthy information that isn't already conveyed with text. Abu badali (talk) 13:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, TV screenshots may only be used in conjunction with critical commentary on the television show, not to illustrate the person shown in them. —Angr 17:18, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Sugar-ray-robinson-1.jpg

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Image:David_Tomlinson.jpg

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Image:Eighth_Doctor_Publicity.jpg

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Image:Eighth_Doctor_Publicity.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Deej30 (notify | contribs).
  • Non-free content used to illustrate fictional character on actor's page at Paul McGann. Further non-free content for this character is already at Eighth Doctor, illustarting the character's page itself. At Paul McGann there is no fulfillment of WP:NFCC#8 for this image. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 14:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep NFCC#8 is a pretty weak argument; describing him "as text" really does not do the same job. The section where this image is used specifically deals with Paul McGann and his involvement in this movie as an actor, while the Eighth Doctor article deals with the character he portrays. Those are seperate subjects and both images reflect that destinction. --Edokter (Talk) 21:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • The Paul McGann article and its dealing with the subject of the actor's works doesn't need illustration unless there was anything particularly exceptional or different about how he appeared in this role. As far as I can tell, the actor looks the same portraying this role as he does in real life, making that special illustration unnecessary. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 14:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this image was already IfDed once and kept, reviewed (and presumably kept), and now it's going for IfD again. If the problem is that it's on a page it shouldn't be (which I don't believe is the case; Paul McGann is known internationally because of this role), it should be removed, not deleted. MSJapan 22:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • The image hasn't been {{ifd}}'d before as far as I can ascertain. The Paul McGann article is about the actor, and unless there was something particularly exceptional or different about how he appeared in this role accompanied by referenced critical commentary, I don't see why copyrighted material needs to be used to illustrate the actor. As for the article Eighth Doctor, it already has further non-free content illustrating that fictional character. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 14:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hmm, because it is only his most notable role he ever did? Thor, you seem to be the only one set to delete this image. Yes, the image is copyrighted, but it is a publicity photo, meaning the owner released it free of charge with the intention to get it spread and published as much as possible. So I think copyright is not the main reason you put the image up for deletion. What is your real reason? --Edokter (Talk) 16:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Are you arguing that because he is famous for the role, an image needs to be used? Is the actor famous for his specific appearance in this role? Did the actor look significantly exceptional playing this role? What specifically about the actor's appearance in this role needs to be illustrated in his article? Illustrating the character is appropriate on that character's page, but not here so far as I can tell by the article. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The role is associated with distinctive "looks" for its main protagonist, so it is a valuable addition to the McGann article to show what his "look" was. Jheald 19:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There's no verifiable source information to backup the claims that this is really promotional material. It's said that this image "is known to have come from a press kit or similar source" but no source info is provided. Saying that it's "© to the BBC" is not enough to determine it's "promotional". Without knowing when/where/why was this image released, we can't be sure that our use won't be competitive. --Abu badali (talk) 03:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image deleted. Image is copyright BBC but may not be part of a press kit. Not significant for the article on Paul McGann. -Nv8200p talk 00:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:BarbaraBach'77.jpg

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Image:Ab-1.JPG

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  • Orphaned, probably unencyclopedic. Description says it's of someone called Andrea Benedetti, but we have no article on such a person (and never have as far as I can tell). —Angr 17:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination withdrawn; source of original has been added. —Angr 17:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:TV_The_One_After_Ross_Says_Rachel.jpg

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Image:TV_The_One_After_Ross_Says_Rachel.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Zanimum (notify | contribs).
  • Non-free TV screenshot used without any critical commentary about the scene being depicted, violating WP:NFCC #8. howcheng {chat} 17:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Would appear to be being used entirely validly on Monica Geller and Chandler Bing to show "the relationship between Chandler and Monica". Jheald 22:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Except that we don't need a shot of them kissing to understand that they are in a romantic relationship. howcheng {chat} 03:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, it's the only picture on the page to show what the other character looks like, and the picture seems a particularly appropriate one for the purpose. It seems reasonable to show how the relationship was depicted, when that's the subject of a major section of the article. Jheald 13:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Showing what a character looks like equals illustration, which is not a valid fair use claim. Brad 15:24, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Actually, we generally do consider it a justifiable addition to an article or major subsection on a character, the showing of what that character looks like. It contributes to the understanding of the topic in a way words alone cannot. Jheald 23:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • "We"? Seriously, User:Howcheng's point is that no reference is being made to the scene in the screenshot, therefore it is just an arbitrary FU image sitting amongst some text. The Monica and Chandler articles go from talking about Ross's wedding, to either talking about the two moving in or the proposal. Why not replace it with a screenshot of them waking up in bed together? Now I don't mean to direct this at you personally, and your debates on the deletion of many Friends images have been thorough, but if an image of two people kissing "contributes to the understanding of the topic in a way words alone cannot" then obviously the wrong words are being used in the article. Even if the use of this image can be justified in the character articles, it certainly has no place where it is in the main Friends article as that section more or less contains only lists of which actor played which character. Brad 09:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that right now both images of the fictional character Chandler Bing are up for deletion. At least one qualifies as fair use to identify the character commented on. WilyD 15:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • IMHO the best thing would probably be a frame from the title sequence with the actor's name superimposed on the character. howcheng {chat} 02:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • I may be a nerd who does science by day and hangs out on the internet at night, but I don't own any Friends DVDs ... While I agree this might not be the best possible screengrab to illustrate Chandler (and in fact, the double chair one is probably better than this, too) ... I would suggest that "could be replaced by equally unfree image" isn't really a good deletion criterion - if it's replaced, then it'd be appropriate to delete. WilyD 15:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • This image is somewhat a spoiler —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.92.183.144 (talk • contribs) 10:05, 1 August 2007.
Image deleted. Image was not significant to the article and there was no commentary about the image. -Nv8200p talk 00:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Chandlerandjoey'sapartment.jpg

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Image:Chandlerandjoey'sapartment.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by VolatileChemical (notify | contribs).
  • If I recall the scene, Chandler is telling the pizza place to leave the pizza across the hall. How does that identify the relationship between Joey and Chandler if they're not even communicating? A screenshot of them hugging or something might be better for the purpose you are describing. Brad 13:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep either this or the previous Chandler image - I suggest this. It's very easy to justify at least one screenshot of a fictional character as fair use - this is probably better than the one above - I think it captures the character better... WilyD 14:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Image deleted. Image was not significant to the article and there was no commentary on the image. -Nv8200p talk 00:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Sitti_1.jpg

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Image:Sitti_1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mordecai_12 (notify | contribs).
  • No evidence of cc-by-2.5 licensing Abu badali (talk) 18:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Of course, the uploader licensing it as cc-by-2.5 is evidence of cc-by-2.5 licensing. Note that this image has been nominated before, and kept on the grounds that the claim it might not be cc-by-2.5 turned out to have no basis. There's no evidence it's not cc-by-2.5 licensed either - if you compare the version here, and the resized version hosted elsewhere, it seems this one is probably the original, and the other one is probably the derivitive ... 15:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Sorry, but that was previously ruled incorrectly. The burden of proof is on the uploader. If User:Mordecai 12 is not the photographer, then s/he needs to prove that the licensing is correct. This can be done via a link to a statement where the licensing is declared, or via email to OTRS. Otherwise, what's to keep anyone from stating, "This photo was taken by my friend Joe Bloggs, who releases it into the public domain"? howcheng {chat} 02:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I find the fact that the version Wikipedia has is higher resolution than the source is sufficient proof of access to the original file. -Nard 03:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • List as "no source". The linked image is smaller than the one uploaded, i.e. not the source image (unless I'm mistaken). Even if the uploader has access to the original file, he still has to list where that is, in other words, the source. Anrie 14:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    There's no reason to remove it from ifd and list as no-source, if we can already discuss the source here. The "no-source" categories were created to make the deletion process less bureaucratic, not more. --Abu badali (talk) 16:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete unless verifiable source provided by the end of this discussion. Videmus Omnia Talk 15:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • What do I have to do to prove that the photo is really MY work? -- Mordecai_12 00:43, 3 August 2007
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Image:Alaud2.JPG

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Image:Alaud2.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ancientcoinsofindia1 (notify | contribs).
  • Orphan image shows copyright notice that may not be owned by the uploader as claimed. The Ancientcoinsofindia1 user account is currently primarily being used to promote linkspam to a commercial coin site, and this image may be part of a spam promotional effort. Some other images uploaded by this user have the same problem. — Buddhipriya 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]
  • PD Bridgeman vs Corel Jheald 22:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I used to think coin images fell under bridgeman but now I'm not so sure... -Nard 15:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: A coin is a three-dimensional object and thus subject to challenge. Further, this image is watermarked with a promotional copyright. Buddhipriya 18:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: I had removed the IFD tag from Image:Alaud2.JPG. All coins are mine and the scans / photographs are taken by me . So don't hesitate to use the image or information .You can remove the copyright tag and add the copyright details as the image used by PHG Image:EranVidishaCoin.jpg, If you follow the same i dont have not have any objection .Amol N Bankar Ancientcoinsofindia1 19:19, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kept but should go into an article. Will tag for Commons move. howcheng {chat} 00:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Daisy Duke in Jeans.jpg

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Image:The_Fool_Circle.jpg

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Go delete half of the Beatles' album covers too then, since they don't have any more of a "rationale" than this one did!. Weatherman90 22:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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