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The result of the debate was 

Deleted.  Orphaned fair use, probable hoax. WilyD 13:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was 

Deleted.  No one has shown any love, this probably fails "significance". WilyD 13:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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- No Consensus - The entirety of the debate seems to rest on whether the free alternate is and adequate replacement, for encyclopedic purposes, for this fair use claimed one. On this point there is no consensus below and I in my view the requirements of NFCC#1 are not sufficiently clear in this case for me to ignore this lack of agreement and delete the image. Does having a picture of a man at 30yrs old serve the same purpose as one of when he was prime minister 30+ years later ? There is clearly no agreement either way on this point - Peripitus (Talk) 04:37, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Again, your interpretation only of the criteria. McEwen was Prime Minister when he was a lot older, not when he was a young man - so a contemporaneous photo of his Prime Ministership is appropriate in the right section of the article. To not include one is to distort the article and to misrepresent McEwen's Prime Ministership. If we are serious about Wikipedia's accuracy then we will include an image like this. There is a valid usage for doing so. I ask the closing nominator to Keep and Censure nominator for blatant WP:POINT violation - he has done too many nominations to spite Australian users when he understands nothing about Australia and believes his own interpretations of NFCC to be the correct ones and ignores anyone else. It has got to stop. JRG (talk) 12:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Image:Bill hayden.jpg

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It's a matter of accuracy, not of why his look was crucial. We want articles to accurately represent people as they looked like when in power. JRG (talk) 12:40, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"We" who? --Damiens.rf 12:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Users who understand the issues and who want to improve Wikipedia instead of deleting images all the time simply to annoy others and make a point that is not valid. JRG (talk) 02:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, living individual, still active in public, image replaceable. Accurate coverage of his political life doesn't depend on what he looked like at the time. Failing that, at a minimum, remove from the election article, where it's clearly non-essential. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
While it doesn't depend on it, it is more accurate for the article if we include a contemporaneous picture of Hayden. He is known for being Opposition Leader in the 1980s not in 2008. We should be supporting and improving on the accuracy of the encyclopedia, not wrecking articles by deleting images for spurious reasons. JRG (talk) 02:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoops, I meant fair use not free use. --Bduke (talk) 04:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you were mistaken, they are not generally allowed and common, it's as simple as that. You can't validly vote keep without an individual very good reason for an exception. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is it clear how recent this photo actually is? --Bduke (talk) 04:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, as per BQZip01 (in this case), and the general principle that politicians aren't notable because of their transient physical appearance at any particular age. Encyclopedic accuracy of our coverage of his political career doesn't depend on what he looked like. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Almost unanimous consensus that the image meets WP:NFCC. -Nv8200p talk 01:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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<tongue in cheek>Well I don't think that you should nominate pictures without a valid reason that isn't your own opinion - but that doesn't matter, does it? You get away with your nonsense.</tongue in cheek> For goodness sake, Damiens, give us a proper reason for deletion or don't bother. JRG (talk) 12:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reason, for those who didn't get it, is that non-free content use should be minimal. And this copyrighted picture of a woman at a piano is something we can do without, while still keeping the article just as informative. --Damiens.rf 12:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, that is YOUR OPINION on the NFCC. Your opinion on how the criteria are to be interpreted is not a prima facie reason for deletion. There may be minimal scope for non-free images but there is allowed to be some - and for the reasons I have already given below it should be allowed in the Lodge article because it shows the piano and decor used at that point in the building's history. Given that the building is not accessible to the general public it shoul be kept. JRG (talk) 02:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. She not only restored this piano, which is notable type of piano, but many parts of the Lodge itself. I suggest this image adds considerably to the article. The lack of sources is not a reason for removing the image. The material should be sourced. I have added the image to the article on Hazel Hawke herself as it is very appropriate there also. --Bduke (talk) 01:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Marginal Keep subject to another image of this person as they currently appear. Image is important in this context and, if the person's current state is not applicable to the article, users need to be able to put a person in context. This photo does the trick. Should a free photo be found, this image should be deleted ASAP. — BQZip01 — talk 04:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep it is currently only used in Hazel Hawke and, given the lack of a free alternate I can find, it's use as the only image satisfies the NFCC requirements. - Peripitus (Talk) 12:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per BDuke and for the reasons given about the piano - it definitely deserves keeping in the Lodge article. It should be included as a contemporaneous picture of Hazel Hawke too if that's possible - and given her dementia and the inability to now appear in public, I would think fair use is more than justified here. Fix the rationale if it's bad, don't just take the lazy option and delete it. JRG (talk) 12:42, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to closing moderator - this image has been added to a second article (The Lodge) since the beginning of this debate. Even if the image does not meet the NFCC criteria for the Hazel Hawke article consideration should be given to removing it from that article and leaving it on the Lodge article where there are no images of living Australians issues. JRG (talk) 02:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was 

Kept.  Use in Isabelle Caro seems to satisfy all nonfree content criteria.  In Anorexia it probably does not, namely replacibility. WilyD 20:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was 

Deleted.  Orphaned, no obvious value. WilyD 20:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was 

Deleted.  As above, orphaned, no clear use. WilyD 20:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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