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December 13

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Itlit_office_old.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by IcelandGamer (notify | contribs).

orphaned image, absent uploader, minimal encyclopedic use , low quality due to small size Jordan 1972 (talk) 00:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Iti1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Iticonsulting (notify | contribs).

orphaned image, absent uploader, questionable PD-self as image is a logo Jordan 1972 (talk) 00:52, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Inthehole.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Inthehole.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by GoldenJew (notify | contribs).

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Image:DiabloHorse.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by GoldenJew (notify | contribs).

orphaned image, absent uploader, likley used on a deleted article, unencyclopedic Jordan 1972 (talk) 00:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Inthecar.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Inthecar.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kahilah (notify | contribs).

orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Inthebizu.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Inthebizu.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Inthebizu (notify | contribs).

orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:01, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned image, absent uploader, unencycloepedic Jordan 1972 (talk) 02:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Internet_cafe_logo.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Maztiff (notify | contribs).

orphaned image, sole contribution of user, unencyclopedic Jordan 1972 (talk) 02:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Interiorapartment.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Interiorapartment.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Gso78 (notify | contribs).

orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 02:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned image, sole contribution of user, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 02:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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orphaned image, absent uploader, unencyclopedic personal photo Jordan 1972 (talk) 02:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 19:07, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No source given, credited "Author" does not match user name Skier Dude (talk) 03:47, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Roza-Shanina profile.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 20:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Roza-Shanina profile.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Papa November (notify | contribs).

(also File:Roza Shanina 140-190 for collage.jpg). Deleted on Commons following deletion debate. Image is not in PD in US or in Russia (see rationale at Commons debate) Papa November (talk) 13:48, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Swinburne sw.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mike86 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned, low quality, little encyclopedic use DavidDCM (talk) 14:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by PhilKnight (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC) Reason= Obsolete - The image has been replaced by a better version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FC_Twente.svg }} Ultras GE (talk) 14:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:LumetPortrait1.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete - as failing NFCC#1 (and possibly NFCC#8). There is no argument below, nor on the image page that says this image meets NFCC#1. He is still alive and a free image is clearly possible to take given he is a public person - also there is the image mentioned below. NFCC#8 requires that the image significantly increase reader's understanding and not only is this not addressed below but the image page has the scant mention that it will be used in the lead...not what having the image acheives. NFCC#1 is overriding here...after all he's still directing. Just need a wikipedian to front to a film set and we're there - Peripitus (Talk) 09:02, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:LumetPortrait1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Wikiwatcher1 (notify | contribs).

This one's a bit complicated. A PUI discussion cast some doubt on whether the image is PD by virtue of being published without a copyright notice, but there is somewhat of a fair use claim. No opinion from me, just listing for a better and more visible discussion. Stifle (talk) 18:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, but if listing is only for further discussion with "no opinion" offered, why is it being listed for deletion? Isn't listing it this way an "opinion?" My suggestion would be to consider listing it as a "fair use" image to simplify the issue. BTW, this same image is used on many websites, including the Academy Awards' oscar.org, tvguide.com, and filmfanatic.org Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 19:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No evidence it is public domain. If the tag is changed to a non-free tag it still should be deleted since it would then fail wikipedia:Non-free content criteria#1. Garion96 (talk) 20:03, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I only saw one PD image (as a child) available. Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 20:22, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"no free equivalent is available" does not mean a free equivalent has to be available right now. He is a living person so it should be possible to find/ask/get a free content image of him/ Garion96 (talk) 20:25, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it really necessary to prove actual impossibility, (of getting an "equivalent" free image) both now or in the future? If that's criteria #1, then there can be no defense for using any "fair use" image. How can someone respond to "it should be possible to find/ask/get" type of comment? Shouldn't there be a standard of "reasonableness" implied here? Forcing an editor to prove that it's impossible to find, ask, or get another photo now or in the future, seems a bit unreasonable.Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 21:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With Sidney Lumet to prove that is impossible, but that is because it should be possible to get a free content image. Besides the fact we do have a free content of him, J. D. Salinger would be an excellent example of where it actually is impossible. Garion96 (talk) 21:22, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep

Re: Criteria #1, Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose. The free image is obviously not "equivalent." This "should be possible" standard you repeated is a standard of impossibility since it is vague, uncertain, and subjective. It really means that anyone can remove any "fair use" image using that rationale since there is no way you can defend against it. Even if the person is no longer alive, someone could simply say that "it should be possible" to get a free image somewhere (i.e. publications, online, or their estate)?

I think when the issue of "should be possible" is used here there is an implied "reasonableness" included in its meaning. For instance, if an image meets 9 out of 10 criteria, is it fair to delete a simple photo because it may still be possible for the uploader to contact the person or some publication directly and request permission or another photo? Is that a reasonable demand for a non-commercial, low res, portrait? Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 22:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All of the non-free content criteria have to be met. Have you ever tried contacting people on flickr? On a quick browse there I saw about 5 Lumet images there. Some of them might be willing to release an image under a free content license. It definitely is possible. Garion96 (talk) 22:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, according to the Library of Congress catalog, there's a photo of Lumet in the Dec. 10, 1957 issue of Look. Assuming George Zimbel was a staff photographer, the photo is PD. I couldn't say how usable the picture is - someone would have to go to a library with copies of Look to find out. --dave pape (talk) 00:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the image information which was revised to fair use. Thanks.Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 06:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Six days and no more issues brought up. Is it OK to remove tag so it doesn't get deleted by a bot?Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 23:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

.No, I still think it fails [[wp:nfcc], so the original issue still stands. But that is irrelevant to your question in a way. An admin will come along and close the discussion and keep or delete the image. No bot will delete this image. Garion96 (talk) 00:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) An image with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 20:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright violation, flickr source is full of publicity stills under false free licenses ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 19:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Jaypee Brothers Medical Publishers, India.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rohitabn (notify | contribs).

non-encyclopaedic, low quality user-created image Skier Dude (talk) 21:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as I1 by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) An image with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Poster-sized portrait of Barack Obama.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Iamwisesun (notify | contribs).

Overwrites image on Commons. Jason (talk) 22:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Unencyclopedic, not a single cover. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:20, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by File:Cylinderdeskfrontinjpeg20031129.png. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 23:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Replaced by File:Rolltopdesksideinjpeg20031124.png. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 23:58, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Seleny.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Texan31337 (notify | contribs).

No longer used as the assosiated article was PRODed, also source is only "yearbook" and aserted to be PD wthout any real explanation. Sherool (talk) 12:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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