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To Nyttend: I am now preparing to submit "Batch07" focussing on Ohio state issues only. I rearranged sections here to put easy typo correction items first, and to put harder-for-National-Register-to-correct items later. The listed-but-demolished cases all will require state SHPO contact and approval, if not requiring SHPO to do field confirmations and for them to submit a separate change request form to the National Register in Washington, D.C. Could you please take a look through and edit further? ALL CAPS notes there indicate something is needed, like a decision about what we want to request. About the items within section "street address issues: harder", and for other items, are we (meaning you :) ) willing to do further research which would make the National Register's changes easier? I wonder if we should ask for the NRHP documents for those ones, instead of requesting that they check the NRHP documents and/or do other research towards making corrections. If we (you) would be interested in getting and using the NRHP docs to create/develop articles, it could possibly make sense to postpone change requests for those. You would then have to say which ones of those you would like to get NRHP docs for, instead. On the other hand, it would be fine to request to them that they do the research, and/or sort it out with state/local staff where needed. I'll wait for some response from you before submitting this batch, which is otherwise nearly ready to go. doncram (talk) 17:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There was some chat at my Talk page. I'm renumbering, dropping the Federal Plaza one, and submitting the Batch07 numbered items below. --doncram (talk) 16:35, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have heard nothing back yet regarding my email of February 2, and I sent a followup inquiry today, May 25. --doncram (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listed or not?

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  • ^ a b Nancy Recchie (December 1984). "East Liverpool Central Business District Mulitiple Resource Assessment (partial: history/architecture)". National Park Service.

    • --doncram (talk) 14:52, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • Masonic Temple (Springfield, Ohio), listed or not, on December 17, 2008, refnum = 08001195. The National Register's NRIS database indicates that the building's listing status is "DR", which signifies "DATE RECEIVED/PENDING NOMINATION".[1] In cases of similarly indicated status, it has turned out the place was later fully NRHP-listed while the NRIS status was erroneously not updated.

    "The temple was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 2008.[1][2] In nominating the temple for inclusion on the Register, the Ohio Historical Society highlighted its significance as the home of the oldest fraternal organization in Springfield."[3]

    1. ^ a b "National Register Information System". National Register of Historic Places. National Park Service. March 13, 2009.
    2. ^ Weekly List of Actions Taken on Properties: 12/15/08 through 12/19/08, National Park Service, 2008-12-24. Accessed 2010-07-26.
    3. ^ State Board Recommends 16 Ohio Nominations To The National Register Of Historic Places, Ohio Historical Society, 2008-08-01. Accessed 2010-02-09.

    Some info here copied from article where Nyttend or other editors had added. --doncram (talk) 15:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Property names

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    • NRHP lists Monroe County bridge as Foreaker Bridge, but Monroe County Engineer (bridge's owner), ODOT, and Monroe County Economic Development Office all say it is Foraker Bridge. I also found a post from a person named Foraker with relatives in the area of the bridge, saying that Foraker is a common name of surrouding people. Considering there is no sign on the bridge itself and the above facts, I would surmise the application was misnamed. [1] [2] [3] Brian Powell (talk) 14:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    References

    1. ^ {{cite web|url=https://battlingbishops.com/sports/2013/7/18/Pfeiffer |title=Pfeiffer Natatorium |publisher=[[Ohio Wesleyan University |access-date=April 30, 2023 }}
    Mistake in NRIS identified by User:Anythingyouwant. The NARA site echoes this error. Ohio Historic Inventory document (available at at NARA version) uses "Pfeiffer" and that is what appears in MPS signatures page. So the error was a typo in NRIS data entry apparently.
    -Doncram (talk,contribs) 12:09, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    County issues

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    Town issues

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    • Pisgah Christian Church in Brown County is located "NW of Ripley on Pisgah Rd", but is inexplicably listed in Wilmington, nearly 50 miles to the north. Needs to be changed to Ripley or to Georgetown (through which one must pass to get to Wilmington), or to Union Township, in which it is located. Nyttend (talk) 15:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    architect and architecture issues

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    Need for correction noted by editor SarekOfVulcan. --doncram 12:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Street address issues: easier

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    • White Bridge, in Mahoning County, Ohio: It crosses "Yellow" Creek, not "Yello" Creek. There is no "Yello Creek" in Ohio. Additionally, "Poland Village" is actually the same thing as Poland, Ohio.
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    • Conrad Neff House: There is no such thing as "Canfield-Boardman" Road. It should either be "Boardman-Canfield" Road or U.S. Route 224.
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    Should be changed from "NE" to "SE"
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    Should be changed from "E" to "S"
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    Change "Medina Lane Rd." to "Medina Line Rd."
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    • The Hoover Farm in North Canton is listed as being "S of North Canton on Easton St"; coordinates and address place it east of central North Canton, not south. It's actually within the city limits, but on the far eastern edge. Nyttend (talk) 21:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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    NEED TO DETAIL OUT THE SPECIFIC CHANGES NEEDED
      • Central Tower Building, listed February 8, 1980 at 1 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown should be changed from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West No, at least per Elkman system, this is correctly listed at "1 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown, Ohio", no change needed.
      • First National Bank Building, listed February 8, 1980, 6 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown, should be changed from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West NO, per Elkman, this is correctly listed at "6 Federal Plaza West, Youngstown, Ohio"
      • Jay's Lunch, listed July 23, 1986, 258 Federal Plaza West, needs change from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West No this is correctly listed at 258 Federal Plaza W.
      • Kress Building, listed July 23, 1986, 111-121 Federal Plaza West, needs change from "West Federal Plaza" to Federal Plaza West, no this is correctly listed at Federal Plaza W.
    THERE ARE A NUMBER MORE "FEDERAL PLAZA" ITEMS IN MAHONING LIST TO CHECK
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    street address issues: harder

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    Addressing the items in this section may require obtaining NRHP nomination document and also referring to atlases or other sources, and making some judgment. Wikipedia editors' suggested changes indicated here.

    Suggest change from "U.S. Route 40" to "County Road 40 (Plainview Road)"
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    • Round Barn near Van Wert (Van Wert County) is listed along State Route 224. Here in fact it's a U.S. Route, instead, U.S. Route 224, not a state route — this is a common error made by residents of western Ohio. --Nyttend
    Suggest change from State Route 224 to U.S. Route 224.
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    Suggest change from State Route 127 to U.S. Route 127
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also Google or other on-line, current maps, and then making some determination.
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    Nyttend (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

      • SR 541 previously was numbered SR 271 before the Interstate was built. The original SR 271 used to extend east of I-77 but was truncated after Salt Fork lake was built.
    So NRHP nomination info may been correct originally, but location needs updating. Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, perhaps to accept "Claysville Rd." instead.
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    Suggest change "State Route 5-A" to "County Road 5A"
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    Suggest change from "U.S." to "State Route" for both.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, probably to "Graces Road"
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination.
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, perhaps chaning from State Route 393 to State Route 339
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    Suggest checking NRHP nomination document and also maps, and then making some determination, perhaps changing to "Orange Road"
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    Demolished but still listed

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    Fully spelled out URLs for those photos are at
    doncram (talk) 16:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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    Fully spelled out URLs for those photos are at
    Nyttend (talk) 19:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Coordinates issues

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