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Images in review

Teraterpeton illustration review, plus, what prehistoric animal could be in need of an ilustration?, i'm a paleoartist with free time

[7]

LiterallyMiguel (talk) 18:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The level of sprawling on the limbs looks pretty extreme. Compare [8]. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 19:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i could argue that, based on the trilophosaurus skeletal, the illustration you showed has actually kind of short arms, and that my depiction is within a natural range of motion for the creature, between the usually depicted limb that's far away back and the other far away forward [9]. So like a mid-step position LiterallyMiguel (talk) 03:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oof the skeletal reconstruction you proposed is by David Peters (paleoartist) who is not a reliable and modifies skeletal reconstruction with his own interpretation. Better to use this[10] even if you think it is not so different. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 05:48, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yeah its not that different LiterallyMiguel (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, the point is to ignore Peters' work entirely (found on his blogs "Reptile Evolution" and "The Pterosaur Heresies") since he usually introduces many misinterpretations due to his unorthodox methods. -SlvrHwk (talk) 16:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i mean; ok, but that's not really the point, judging by other skeletals (like the one from its own paper) the arm lenght is fine in my opinion, and its in a natural middle-ground between the usually depicted far-away-back and far-away-forward foot pose, unless there's evidence of teraterpeton's legs being shorter which i haven't found yet LiterallyMiguel (talk) 21:13, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm jumping in kinda late here, but Teraterpeton seems to have maxillary prognathism. Skye McDavid (talk) 14:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other illustrations by LiterallyMiguel

Here are all of this user's uploads (including Teraterpeton, discussed above). I can't speak to the little anatomical details, but they seem quite good artistically. -SlvrHwk (talk) 16:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thanks!, i also wonder what other species could be in need of a good paleo-art, like i did with Puercosuchus, which even with how interesting it is, there's ZERO other drawings of it i the internet! LiterallyMiguel (talk) 21:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remember to add new uploads here too, LiterallyMiguel, I added your latest. FunkMonk (talk) 22:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may be mud obscuring the tail, but Angistorhinus seems to have a very short tail? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 04:18, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

its just the angle! LiterallyMiguel (talk) 04:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems new arts are uploaded and added to page. Are there any issues? Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 15:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cryptovenator

Cryptovenator.

I made basic improvements to an old Cryptovenator illustration, as I said before I'm rusty with synapsids. I added lips, put gingiva, gave more shadow to necessary areas, put a more natural and neutral color to certain areas and modified the neural spines. Any comment? Levi bernardo (talk) 09:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe some more soft tissue in the occipital region? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 05:56, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly to this area? I also suspected that, ok I'll do it. Levi bernardo (talk) 06:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering its position close to Sphenacodon, would the short neural spines really have looked like a sail? FunkMonk (talk) 00:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had originally drawn it somewhat similar to Sphenacodon and with certain similarities also to Ctenospondylus. In the redraw I did almost a decade ago I did that combination again. But I think it will be time to rethink it and perhaps be more attached to Sphenacodon, but I wouldn't like to completely abandon the high vertebrae either. One option would be to delete everything beyond the atlas, but aesthetically I like seeing the neck in this one. Now, regarding the appearance of the vertebrae, I think that the most convenient thing would be to blur the area where they emerge to give a more natural transition and with more tissue, but as for the tips, it is a good question to know if they will really have been similar to what is known about Dimetrodon Levi bernardo (talk) 00:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The soft tissue augmentation is ready, and also the modification of the sail Levi bernardo (talk) 03:42, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, seems better. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 01:09, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thalattosuchian

Metriorhynchinae
Maledictosuchus (seems file name typo, Maldictosuchus)
Cricosaurus
Rhacheosaurus (seems file name typo, Racheosaurus)
Thalattosuchus
Gracilineustes

Those images are added to pages without review, by @Jackosaurs:. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 00:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The hindlimb range of motion on Maledictosuchus and Rhacheosaurus seems a little suspect? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 02:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, but there is no real studies for the leg motion that I know of. 108.28.242.40 (talk) 13:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The art style looks unusually similar to Ddinodan’s art. Jackosaurs, are you the same person? 2001:4453:551:4100:55A6:B045:B00B:86C4 (talk) 12:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I’m am not the same person. We use the same program so maybe that’s why the style is similar. 108.28.242.40 (talk) 13:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kilianicaris

New reconstruction, based on Laville et al. Qohelet12 (talk) 16:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I see there are no issues compared to Fig. 23. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 22:46, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Macrauchenia patachonica

Hey folks, here's a reconstruction of Macrauchenia with saiga-esque facial tissue.

Triloboii (talk) 20:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Figured I may as well also upload a recon of Macrauchenia's tropical cousin, Xenorhinotherium

Triloboii (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hemiauchenia may have comments? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 02:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first Macrauchenia image is difficult to judge proportions due to the angle, but it looks fine to me. Xenorhinotherium also looks fine. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opabinia

Second version (I decided to upload them as separate files)

I finally updated my ecological reconstruction of Opabinia. Qohelet12 (talk) 19:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I could only comment on arthropods, the Opabinia looks good, while the first 3 leg pairs of Burgessia could be a little bit longer, representing the specialized exopods (see 1).

Anyway, that's an excellent piece of artwork! Junnn11 (talk) 01:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is Burgessia ok now? and thank you! Qohelet12 (talk) 12:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks ok now. Thanks for the update! Junnn11 (talk) 13:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The body segments of Opabinia are not arthrodized or sclerotized, what you see in the fossils are raised ridges of the soft cuticle. They make a gentle slope back into the next segment, with zero overlap. These ridges also increase in height and definition towards the middle posterior, starting very faint behind the head. It is important that they are not depicted as sclerotized, arthropod-like segments, and they should fade into smooth cuticle before they reach the flaps.

In terms of proportions, I really liked your previous verion - Opabinia is very tall for a lobopodian. Lastly, Opabinia had a long-ish distinct neck region (see Budd and Daley [2012] figs 3a, 3e, and 8a). The head should be faintly annulated, continuing from the proboscis, with the annulations fading away around the neck region. There is probably no external 'segmentation' between the head and neck. I won't make any suggestions regarding legs, as although I believe they had them, this is still not agreed upon. Also, given that this is an ecological reconstruction before anything, I won't complain if you choose to keep it as is. As always it is a very nice drawing. PaleoEquii (talk) 08:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it, and thank you! Qohelet12 (talk) 12:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new version is excellent. Thank you again for all your work. PaleoEquii (talk) 03:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ornithoprion reconstructions

Several skeletal reconstructions and diagrams done of Ornithoprion based on the figures provided in Zangerl's 1966 description. I've talked about this over in the Discord and these should be distinct enough to be Creative Commons, but let me know if they need to be differentiated further (and of course if there are any anatomical issues). No photos of the fossils are available on commons (Or anywhere but the description, for that matter) and even then they are quite severely crushed, so I'm not sure what can be done besides closely copying the figures in the paper to accurately represent them. I'm working on finishing up an extensive rewrite of the currently very barebones page for this guy, so I thought it could use some images besides the frankly horribly inaccurate life restoration I did a couple of years ago. Gasmasque (talk) 05:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know enough about Chondrichthyans to comment on anatomy, but the institutional abbreviation should be FMNH not CNHM. Skye McDavid (talk) 20:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will correct, good catch! The paper is from before the name change, so it must have just slipped my mind to adjust that while doing this. Gasmasque (talk) 06:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither do I, but is there a reason for the gap between the rostrum and the Meckel's cartilage? Were they disconnected? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 02:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zangerl's original figures show the two with a gap between them, and it is suggested that the rostrum was articulated and flexible and not fused to the Meckel's. If this illustration seems implausibly exaggerated or confusing then it can be changed, but I do want to emphasize that this was an apparently flexible structure. Gasmasque (talk) 22:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying, I think that's fine. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 16:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An additional fossil illustration and life reconstruction of another eugeneodont called Paredestus. There isn't a ton published on this guy, but the dentition described in the paper is extremely unique, and I thought it was worth doing a life reconstruction (based primarily off of other recons published for edestoids). Gasmasque (talk) 16:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Bunch of Restorations that I forgot to have reviewed

Carbonodraco lundi
Elliotsmithia longiceps
Haqelpycnodus picteti
Khirtharia inflata
Limnocyon verus
Trypanognathus remigiusbergensis
Turfanosuchus dabanensis
Gyrodus hexagonus
Rhodotheratus parvus
Reiszorhinus olsoni
Eothyris parkeyi

SeismicShrimp (talk) 18:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Skull anatomy and osteoderms look OK for Turfanosuchus, but I'm wondering about the limb proportions and stance. Based on the known limb proportions [11] and other gracilisuchids [12], the forelimbs should be much shorter than the hindlimbs. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 18:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for taking so long to reply, I can definitely see that and certain things were corrected later on including removing osteoderms on the tail and removing claws on the outer two digits on the front limbs. I should be able to fix this later today along with the proportions on the other Asian taxa in the family that I’ve yet to upload to wikimedia. SeismicShrimp (talk) 14:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fixed problems with the proportions SeismicShrimp (talk) 15:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gaiasia

Made a drawing of the new giant tetrapodomorph in a swimming pose, leaving it here for review. Olmagon (talk) 00:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This may be a matter of perspective, but the eyes seem too laterally directed considering the dorsal position of the orbits (cf. the lateral reconstruction in Fig. 2). Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Entothyreos

I made a model of Entothyreos synnaustrus, a new collinsovermid from the Burgess Shale. Of course, there is no Entothyreos page for it to accompany yet, but its here when such a page exists. PaleoEquii (talk) 06:40, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kermitops

Kermitops

This is my attempt at creating an illustration of Kermitops. The body is based on that of a salamander, while the eye is based on the eye of Hyalinobatrachium dianae (chosen because it resembles the eye of Kermit the frog). Does the illustration seems suitable to use? If there are any glaring issues, let me know. Di (they-them) (talk) 02:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)'[reply]

I don't think proportion of body matches with other amphibamiformes. See Doleserpeton[13] or Eoscopus[14] for reference. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 03:12, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ta-tea-two-te-to: Thanks for letting me know, I've updated the file and I think the proportions should be more accurate now. Di (they-them) (talk) 03:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as I have updated the proportions and have not received any other comments, I will assume that the image is good to go. If not, let me know. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It hasn't even been a day since the review started. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 00:49, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I'm not entirely familiar with this process so I wasn't sure how long it's supposed to take. Di (they-them) (talk) 01:17, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ergilin Dzo Formation Size Chart?

Can someone please do a size chart for the fauna of the Ergilin Dzo formation? it would be really helpful and informative.

Callawayia

Here's a life restoration of the Canadian Triassic ichthyosaur Callawayia, which, up until now, had no images on Commons at all. I've detailed my process and rationale for reconstructing it the way I have in the file description. How does it look? --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 16:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No issues that I can see. If there is a gap in the preserved caudals, how was the total length inferred (I don't have access to check right now)? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:39, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just followed what Nicholls & Manabe (2001) said about this, namely: "A 25 cm gap is present in the middle of the tail, following vertebra 93, suggesting that approximately 15 vertebrae are missing." --Slate Weasel [Talk - Contribs] 22:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shucaris ankylosskelos

I made this model of shucaris appendages and wanted to know if it's good and accurate enough to add to the article. Is there anything to change? Wawrow (talk) 19:24, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I see it seems fine but probably good to see @Junnn11:'s opinion. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 03:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's accurate enough to use.

The only thing I'm not sure is the inward curving of endite 6-13 (AFAIK there's only lateral view for these endites, which can't tell if it was curved inward), but that's not a major concern IMO. Junnn11 (talk) 08:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply! I'll try to add these reconstructions to the article when i can. Wawrow (talk) 10:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added them along with a new section that'll probably need reviewing. Wawrow (talk) 13:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

another turntable animation, this one shows the 1st podomere of the claw. Wawrow (talk) 15:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New DBogdanov works

New works from the user. (I personally hope if they upload new version of Ptychodus...) Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 11:50, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is the purple on that Geikia even achievable with skin or keratin in synapsids? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consider Larrayal (talk) 01:45, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very easy to fix, what would we want to change it into? Red maybe? FunkMonk (talk) 13:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The difference between the mandrill and the Geikia is that the former is still recognisably blue-on-red... the latter is just straight-up violet. I'm OK with a less vibrant purple. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 14:20, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I toned the purple down and fixed some other blemishes, how is it? FunkMonk (talk) 16:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems better. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 18:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tseajaia and Yonghesuchus restorations

Tseajaia campi
Yonghesuchus sangbiensis

SeismicShrimp (talk) 18:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't have any comment on these but looking at Commons you don't seem to have got around to uploading the Youngina drawing we were discussing on Discord a few months back. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got a bit busy with stuff so I never finished it but all it needs are osteoderms so maybe like 10-20 minutes of work. I can get Youngina and both of the Temnospondyls I have on commons done later today. SeismicShrimp (talk) 12:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear what is claw and what is soft tissue in the forelimbs of Yonghesuchus, not even clear if the forelimbs have claws at all. Separating them with linework (as in the hindlimbs) or different colors would be a simple fix. Skye McDavid (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did both recommendations just to be safe SeismicShrimp (talk) 18:10, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason why the osteoderms stop short of the tail in Yonghesuchus? Same deal for the Turfanosuchus above, where I saw you removed them. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 03:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it seems to be a gracilisuchid thing, was in talks with armin about it SeismicShrimp (talk) 17:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Straight-tusked elephant size comparison

Based on previous work by @Steveoc 86: [15]. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No comment on accuracy but the text looks a little crowded here. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 03:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amananulam sanogoi

Amananulam sanogoi reconstruction

My traditional pen + pencil reconstruction of Amananulam sanogoi, largely based on modern sea snakes and alethinophidians such as boas. No species within this family have genus/species pages with artwork, to my knowledge, and only one has a created page. This is my first time ever using wikipedia to submit my own artwork, and while I may fear some aspects of this reconstruction are too speculative, I may be able to make minor edits per your suggestions. While I plan to color this, I'm uploading the uncolored version first as it may be easier on the eyes and more anatomically digestible. Edit: this specific individual is a female, hence the lack of spurs. Lythronax246 (talk) 21:04, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More recons

Notobrachyops picketti
Bothriceps australis
Youngina capensis
Thabanchuia oomie
Kourerpeton bradyi
Prolacerta broomi

SeismicShrimp (talk) 01:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think all of these look good. I can't recall ungual counts off the top of my head for non-archosaurian archosauromorphs, but thats a minor and fixable detail if incorrect. IJReid ^{{{T - C - D - R}}} 17:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In at least the largest specimen of Prolacerta, the femur is a good 50% longer than the humerus [16]. The opposite seems to be true here? Or is it the posture? Also, Figure 9 in the paper has a new skull reconstruction that gives it somewhat larger eyes and a mild overbite. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 03:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. it's the posture

2. the head looks fine to me but i can make changes if need be SeismicShrimp (talk) 17:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eltanin impact

Paleoartistic depiction of a megatsunami caused by the Eltanin impact hitting the east coast of New Zealand during the Early Pleistocene. We observe a moa fleeing from the waves, and a dermochelyid turtle being dragged by the water.

Made this artwork to be included in the Eltanin impact page. I hope its fitting for review. YellowPanda2001 (talk) 10:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very few waves in a tsunami crest, which does make it a bit less visually dramatic. Whether that is an issue with this piece that makes it need revisions or not, I cannot say, but it is something others should keep in mind when reviewing this piece. IJReid ^{{{T - C - D - R}}} 17:30, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Palaeotherium

Hey folks, another Eocene mammal from France with a reconstruction and size chart; Palaeotherium.

Palaeotherium medium
Size chart of a selection of the many sp. of Palaeotherium

Triloboii (talk) 03:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a particular reason for the size of the ears? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 03:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

just looking at ungulates that live in similar environments today Triloboii (talk) 12:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Megatherium life restoration by ДиБгд

While this restoration isn't used in the Megatherium article proper, it is widely used elsewhere, including at the collage in the infobox of Xenarthra. Looking at the head, there are a number of issues. 1. While this was a popular historical paleoart meme, Megatherium almost certainly didn't have a protrusible tongue based on a 2010 study of its hyoid bones [17]. 2. Megatherium probably had a prehensile upper lip similar to that of a black rhinoceros, see this 2006 paper which has a good restoration [18], which isn't shown in this image. The first issue and probably the second issue are fixable with editing. Hemiauchenia (talk) 07:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can fix her. Well, the Engwiki article does use this[19] image which has the same muzzle issue, so I'll try to correct both. FunkMonk (talk) 16:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not the easiest angle to show this snout morphology from, but I've updated the image to show something like in that paper, what do you think, Hemiauchenia? If that's fine, I'll fix the landscape image too. FunkMonk (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fantastic. In addition to the landscape the Xenarthra collage will also need fixing [20] (which just a simple job of replacing the original with your fixed version) Hemiauchenia (talk) 04:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, updated the others too. FunkMonk (talk) 17:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vishnuictis

This image is added to the article without review. Seems it is based on modern Viverrids but any opinions for this? Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 03:02, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found exactly same skeletal reconstruction in DeviantArt.[21] Is image uploader same as original author? Also found some description of article of Vishnuictis which is citation needed, is somewhat similar to description in this deviant. (difference is upper length being 3.4 m instead of 2.4 m) Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 15:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He who needs to be silenced’s reconstructions

Ianthodon
Barbclabornia
Glaucosaurus
Eohupehsuchus
Yixian Formation fish
Yixian Formation fish with labels
Telmatosaurus that was originally gonna be Qianjiangsaurus but then a skeletal came out

I’m not sure how this works, I have been told to share here so here I try

Added other works from same user. Ta-tea-two-te-to (talk) 10:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fish from the Yixian Formation is excellent and sorely needed. Although I'm not sure about the big dark box on the left-hand side of the labeled version. A Cynical Idealist (talk) 23:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Big box Is lower half of Minecraft Steve for scale. 74.57.20.91 (talk) 15:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not at all clear. A normal human silhouette should be used. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 15:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, did this a while ago, I’m gonna go back and change it. 74.57.20.91 (talk) 17:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The premaxilla of Eohupehsuchus seems a little short relative to the fossil. I'm not sure the eyes would protrude from the skull like that? (Slate Weasel might be able to weigh in too) Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 15:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The right limb seems too extremely folded on Telmatosaurus. Some of the stripes bleed through the outline. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 16:39, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This one was a little less effort due to the fact that it was full of hiccups, so feel free to make edits. 74.57.20.91 (talk) 17:54, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Telmatosaurus should be reviewed at WP:DINOART. IIRC early diverging hadrosauromorphs wouldn't have had the Edmontosaurus-like hands but not sure and don't have time to double-check at the moment. Skye McDavid (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above points. The right arm seems out of the comfortable range of motion. I'll also add that the tail is much too long based on related taxa. -SlvrHwk (talk) 04:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mekosuchine stuff

Mekosuchinae
Quinkana

Two illustrations of mekosuchines. The first one displays the diversity of the group, comparing Paludirex, Quinkana, Mekosuchus and Baru darrowi (to scale). The other is a size comparisson of Quinkana fortirostrum with a human based on the estimates of Flannery (1990) and Sobbe et al. (2013). I also got a skull recon in the works but that will take some more time to finish and recieve feedback from a first hand source so really thats not relevant right now.Armin Reindl (talk) 21:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Equus ovodovi

A sketch of Equus ovodovi using colored and mechanical pencils on paper

A colored-pencil sketch of Equus ovodovi, taking into account the general cranial proportions of Equus coliemensis (the only Sussemione with skull material) and the general body and limb proportions of zebras and wild asses, the clades most closely related to Sussemiones. Coloration primarily inspired by Asiatic and African wild asses. Dynamoterror1011 (talk) 17:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Bunch of Restorations by me

Gracilisuchus stipanicicorum
Ticinosuchus ferox
Erpetosuchus granti
Brachyprosopus broomi
Eodicynodon oosthuizeni
Vaughnictis smithae

SeismicShrimp (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gracilisuchus generally looks fine, but the lower jaw seems too tall. There is some crushing in MCZ 4117 but the thinness of the lower jaw is fairly consistent across specimens. Either way, this is a substantial improvement over the current image. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 02:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You’re right, I should be able to fix that within the next 30 min. Was about to start working on some other crocodylomorphs anyway. SeismicShrimp (talk) 12:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see no major issues with Eodicynodon. In the specimens of Brachyprosopus figured by Angielczyk et al. (2016), the tusks are more anteriorly directed and the entire orbital margin is raised from the skull, not just the brow ridge. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 14:45, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fixed the head SeismicShrimp (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Taxa

Epoidesuchus tavaresae
Nanxiongilambda yei

Nanxiongilambda is mostly based on Pantolambda 161.57.104.9 (talk) 00:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are the osteoderms of Epoidesuchus skin-bound, as inferred for other notosuchians? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 02:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I’m doing an in between sort of reconstruction where the osteoderms are visible but under a layer of skin instead of keratin. SeismicShrimp (talk) 14:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tail of Tylosaurus

Hello everyone, if you know the subject of mosasaurs, you have most likely already come across this image of Dimitri Bogdanov reconstructing a Tylosaurus proriger, which was even used in certain studies. Although reconstitution seems good for the body, it is still very bad and obsolete for the tail. I therefore suggest that a user skilled in editing can correct this error, so that it can be used appropriately in an article. Amirani1746 (talk) 21:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC) Here's the file in question :[reply]

Would the proximal tail even have been capable of bending in this serpentine manner? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 22:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For adults, possibly. But the dorsals should be rigid, and in this recon they are certainly not. Macrophyseter | talk 21:56, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if we even need it anymore, since there are many other accurate restorations of it here? Won't be easy to edit since the entire posture is outdated. FunkMonk (talk) 00:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Surprisingly, not that much ! There's only two reconstruction of T. proriger on Wikimedia : one which is slightly more recent (2015) than this one (2007). It doesn't appear to have ever been discussed here, but is probably, although a bit bendy, more on par with modern understanding of their anatomy. The second one is from 2022 and passed review, but presents the inconvenient of not using a white background. If somebody could correct that, that would be useful to replace the one from 2007. Both are from Bogdanov.

2015

2022

Honestly, in the English wiki, the 2007 image is barely used anymore aside from the Mooreville Chalk and the Matanuska Formation, so we could just remove the earliest recon and substitute them the more recent ones. Tylosaurus has a substantial research history article, and (although a bit skinwrapped) the 2007 recon seems to be pretty accurate to the knowledge of the animal at the time, so it could maybe be used in that article as an historical interpretation, and as such it is probably better to keep it as it is currently. Larrayal (talk) 04:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2007 NT

There's also this NT one already with a white background that would be pretty easy to fix the tail of for use in cladograms:[22] Perhaps should also not show individual fingers and hide teeth? FunkMonk (talk) 05:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine that i wrongly bad read the Tylosaurus article... Amirani1746 (talk) 12:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paranacaiman bravardi

A skull reconstruction and size comparisson of Paranacaiman. The skull reconstruction features a generalized skull shape and is based on a reconstruction of the holotype skull table. Missing sutures are inferred based on the general anatomy of close relatives like Acresuchus, Purussaurus neivensis and Mourasuchus atopus.Armin Reindl (talk) 12:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Goronyosaurus nigeriensis

Goronyosaurus nigeriensis

Reconstruction as a plioplatecarpine following recent phylogenetic studies, updating from previous reconstructions as a mosasaurine. Head is based on Lingham-Soliar (1991), while body proportions are based on the Los Angeles Platecarpus skeleton. Macrophyseter | talk 21:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the reason for the scalloped trailing edge of the flippers? Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 23:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shape of the flippers are an artistic choice loosely based on Ectenosaurus. Macrophyseter | talk 19:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Impumlophantsi boonstrai

Impumlophantsi boonstrai

I've been working on a bunch of stuff this week with a focus on a few archosaurs and a bunch of cynodonts, but I saw this guy got published so I decided to drop what I was doing to get a quick life restoration out. I'll be putting the rest of my stuff up for review in the next few days, expect around 10-15 taxa. SeismicShrimp (talk) 20:41, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some mastodons

Borston's mastodon

American mastodon

The American mastodon I drew recently, the Borston's is an older drawing that someone on the WikiPaleo Discord server asked I post here, leaving them both here for review now. Olmagon (talk) 00:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Per following policy discussions:[1][2][3][4]

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