Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

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• Otago Gold Rush → Otago gold rush (move · discuss) – Current title inappropriately capitalized. Most links have already been changed to lower case version. Current title should be left empty to be used as name of basketball team (currently stub Otago Gold Rush (basketball)) Doug butler (talk) 04:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

@Doug butler: Do you want me to move Otago Gold Rush (basketball) to Otago Gold Rush as well? C F A 💬 04:20, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

No, I can handle that one. Thanks for moving it so promptly. Doug butler (talk) 04:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. No evidence that the basketball team has any kind of notability. Otago Gold Rush is much more likely to refer to the historical event. Move back to Otago Gold Rush (basketball), or even better, delete per WP:N. 162 etc. (talk) 09:46, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

• Collingwood Blues (2020–) → Collingwood Blues (move · discuss) – The qualifying bookend "(2020–)" is unnecessary. The article relates to an existing ice hockey team. Collingwood Blues (1988–2011) is for the defunct team with the same name. The target page is currently a redirect. Buffalkill (talk) 01:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

No evidence that the current team is the primary topic. A disambiguation page at Collingwood Blues is probably the best solution. 162 etc. (talk) 04:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Neither article gets a ton of traffic, but in the last 2 months Collingwood Blues (2020–) has more than double the page views. Since the redirect currently points to Collingwood Blues (1988–2011), at least some (if not most) of the traffic to that page has to be unintentional. Buffalkill (talk) 12:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia have a convention about this sort of title format with a dash just before a closing parenthesis? To me it looks a bit strange. I would expect something like "... (2020–present)". I found only 28 titles like that on the entire English Wikipedia, so it must not be considered proper. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

None that I know of. I agree that the "(2020 -)" qualifier looks a bit strange, as if the team is under a deathwatch. There are many examples of new(er) sports teams choosing to take the name of a historical antecedent:

• Baltimore Colts (1947–1950) → Baltimore Colts
• Ottawa Senators (original) → Ottawa Senators
• Williams Lake Mustangs (1978–1996) → Williams Lake Mustangs
• Winnipeg Jets (1972–1996) → Winnipeg Jets
• Chilliwack Chiefs (1990–2006) → Chilliwack Chiefs

Buffalkill (talk) 18:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I suggest that the Collingwood Blues (2020–) should be considered the primary topic. As I noted above, Collingwood Blues (2020–) has more than double the number of page views in the last 2 months, and it seems intuitive that any person looking for either of the articles would make the same assumption, that an active team would have primacy over the defunct one. I don't recommend using Collingwood Blues (2020–present), as I think it's unnecessary and inconsistent with most other articles about sports teams. Buffalkill (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the number of page views I note that, until a day ago, the redirect page was automatically sending readers to Collingwood Blues (1988–2011), which suggests to me that many of the page views for the defunct team's article were misdirected. There was a significant spike in views for both articles in May 2024, which was around the time when the Collingwood Blues (2020–) were winning a national championship. Buffalkill (talk) 19:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Battle at Tel al-Hawa → Battle of Tel al-Hawa (currently a redirect back to Battle at Tel al-Hawa) (move · discuss) – problems moving due to a technicality, was previously "Battle of Tel al-Hawa", then "Tel al-Hawa incursion", now aiming to move it back to the former after doing more digging and realizing the subject has not been a 4 day incursion but rather a prolonged months-long battle. Evaporation123 (talk) 04:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  I am concerned because the page was moved multiple times so a move discussion will be needed. Toadette^Edit! 08:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Olympic Pool, Montreal → Olympic Pool (Montreal) (currently a redirect back to Olympic Pool, Montreal) (move · discuss) – Parentheses are used for North American places. 162 etc. (talk) 18:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  @162 etc., it purely disambiguates Olympic Pool, Moscow. Are you aware of that? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 02:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  I am not suggesting Olympic Pool. 162 etc. (talk) 16:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  @162 etc. The article itself uses Montreal Olympic Pool, which seems to have enough usage in the media to qualify under WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION. --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 17:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose. 162 etc. (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  I notice that Olympic Park, Montreal is also incorrectly using comma disambiguation and should move to Olympic Park (Montreal). 162 etc. (talk) 19:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

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