Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 October 15
October 15
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:31, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
I feel this template is extraneous and, since "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information", should be deleted. —Eustress 22:34, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Question for @Eustress: Did you check to see if there are parallel navboxes for university presidents/chancellors of other college athletic conferences? If there are, they probably should all be discussed at the same time. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:00, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- No, but would think if any others did exist, there would be a Category on the template page so indicating. —Eustress 00:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Eustress: Well, here's another two you may want to consider adding to this discussion: Template:Southeastern Conference transit system navbox and Template:Southeastern Conference student newspaper navbox. Neither subject really has anything to do with college sports or the Southeastern Conference. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:08, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- And yet more:
- 1. Template:Atlantic Coast Conference university executive navbox;
- 2. Template:Big Ten Conference university presidents navbox; and
- 3. Template:American Athletic Conference university president navbox.
- Did not find any navboxes for the university presidents/chancellors of the Pac-12 or Big 12. There may be others, however. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:17, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Nice finds! I would be in favor of deleting them all based on the same rationale. —Eustress 14:12, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Eustress, I will support deleting all of them as navbox cruft that tangentially relates two different things -- college sports conferences and university presidents -- if you want to pursue this TfD with multiple navboxes. Have you notified the creator of the SEC presidents navbox that this TfF discussion in pending? If not, you need to notify the creators of all of these. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:20, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Nice finds! I would be in favor of deleting them all based on the same rationale. —Eustress 14:12, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- No, but would think if any others did exist, there would be a Category on the template page so indicating. —Eustress 00:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- delete, very weak connection. Frietjes (talk) 19:51, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- keep (that is the president/executive boxes). 1) university presidents/chancellors are very active in the administration of their respective athletic conferences, and 2) the conferences have a modern role beyond just athletics, and often cooperate in teaching and research. I feel it is useful to have a link between them so that people can see about the executives of the different schools within the same conference. --rogerd (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- The coach nav boxes and AD nav boxes seem extraneous enough, especially the latter since many schools sponsor sports across multiple conferences, but the uni president relationship is too far up the line IMO. For instance, the University of Florida announced a new president last week, and not once in his announcement remarks did he mention the SEC, or even athletics for that matter. —Eustress 22:19, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as there appears to be enough navboxes with stronger connections, already —PC-XT+ 22:45, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete all - The guideline for navboxes, WP:NAVBOX, suggests five criteria for evaluating whether a particular subject (and links) may be appropriate content for a navbox:
- "1. All articles within a template relate to a single, coherent subject.
- "2. The subject of the template should be mentioned in every article.
- "3. The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent.
- "4. There should be a Wikipedia article on the subject of the template.
- "5. You would want to list many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles."
- In my estimation, these navboxes fail criteria nos. 2, 3, 4 and 5 -- and these criteria, including the absence of stand-alone articles for these subjects, strongly suggest that these are weak candidates for navbox topics. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 12 November 2014. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:32, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:30, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
unused. Frietjes (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:29, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
unused and generally redundant to one of the other {{bar chart}} templates. Frietjes (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:29, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
unused. Frietjes (talk) 19:24, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:28, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
unused. Frietjes (talk) 19:22, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Baddy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused. Frietjes (talk) 19:21, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Azerbaijani Football Goalkeeper of the Year (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
unused. Frietjes (talk) 19:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete. Nothing to userfy, as the template is just a copy of User:Simonsolhoff/sandbox. 28bytes (talk) 05:30, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Simon Solhoff (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template resembling a bio of its creator, only used in User:Simonsolhoff/sandbox. VeryCrocker (talk) 19:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- delete (or userfy). Frietjes (talk) 19:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete or userfy per nom —PC-XT+ 22:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was no consensus to delete, or to merge them. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:29, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- Template:1986 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1987 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1988 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1989 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1990 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1991 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1992 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1993 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1994 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1995 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1996 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1997 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1998 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:1999 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2000 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2001 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2002 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2003 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2004 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2005 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2007 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2008 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2009 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2010 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2011 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2013 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:2014 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
no transclusions. Frietjes (talk) 18:49, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
What's wrong with these? There's other honorary award templates in the same fashion (baseball, basketball and football hall of fames for example). They allow you to see other members of a specific class without needing to head to the hall of fame's main page. charge2charge (talk) 01:54, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
- charge2charge, "no transclusions" means none of these are used on any article. If you see a place to use them, it's usually fine to do so, and reply here with a wikilink, but templates that aren't being used are routinely deleted. —PC-XT+ 20:18, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Keep per PC-XT.And I'm assuming the nominator simply overlooked {{2006 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame}} when deciding which templates to nominate.Scratch that last comment- apparently some of these (2006, 2012) did have incoming links. Levdr1lp / talk 06:06, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge per Ilovetopaint and his switch function proposal. Levdr1lp / talk 11:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- Merge with {{Rock and Roll Hall of Fame navbox}} and use switch formatting like in {{The Simpsons episodes}}.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 16:12, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Every music artist has their respective template on their page.
Examples for each year: 1986 - Chuck Berry 1987 - Aretha Franklin 1988 - Bob Dylan 1989 - Stevie Wonder 1990 - The Who 1991 - The Byrds 1992 - Johnny Cash 1993 - Etta James 1994 - Elton John 1995 - Janis Joplin 1996 - David Bowie 1997 - Bee Gees 1998 - Fleetwood Mac 1999 - Billy Joel 2000 - James Taylor 2001 - Michael Jackson 2002 - Ramones 2003 - The Police 2004 - Prince 2005 - U2 2006 - Blondie 2007 - The Ronettes 2008 - Madonna 2009 - Metallica 2010 - ABBA 2011 - Neil Diamond 2012 - Guns N' Roses 2013 - Randy Newman 2014 - Linda Ronstadt charge2charge (talk) 07:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge with Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and use switch as suggested by Ilovetopaint. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:53, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- {{The Simpsons episodes}} is a different type of template. It doesn't have specific names for each year. It just directs you to a season page. An example that fits this situation is {{2014 Baseball HOF}}. charge2charge (talk) 18:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- A single template makes sense - syntax could be {{Rock and Roll Hall of Fame|1997}}, {{Rock and Roll Hall of Fame|2008}}, etc. Eman235/talk 22:39, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to {{Rock and Roll Hall of Fame navbox}} with {{#switch:}} function. Epicgenius (talk) 18:45, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
- (just to clarify:) I vote Merge per Epicgenius. Eman235/talk 04:44, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- Merge into one template using a switch. Best Regards InsaneHacker (talk) 09:23, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- How does this merge into one template using a switch work if every music artist has their respective template on their page? I'm a bit confused. Thanks. charge2charge (talk) 18:08, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- As Eman235 suggested, you could simply change the templates on their pages to {{Rock and Roll Hall of Fame|1997}}, {{Rock and Roll Hall of Fame|2008}} and so on...--Ilovetopaint (talk) 17:58, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. There are transclusions. Merging the lot in to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame which currently forwards to the per year templates doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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