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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:49, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox that links to Anatomy infoboxes. Don't see what benefit this is supposed to provide. It's probably just best to use the category to find anatomy infobox templates at this point. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:58, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I had a discussion about necessity of this template at Template talk:Infobox anatomy#Uses Infobox and list template. As I mentioned there are similar Infobox templates like {{Uses infobox person}}, {{Uses infobox sportsperson}}, or {{Uses Infobox settlement}}. After creating the template, Tom (LT) approved my work.

With my new edits, "Template:Anatomy infobox templates" can be seen in all sub-templates. Shkuru Afshar (talk) 13:03, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Templates are used to navigate between other templates if they form a series. But it's mainly been used for navboxes from what I've seen. Maybe an exception could be made for these Infoboxes but I think there should be a greater consensus for that. Normally Infoboxes are navigated through cateogires and if this is kept, then there could be similar navboxes for infoboxes for particular topics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiCleanerMan (talkcontribs) 00:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and broken template. There is no Module:Sports color/australian rules football for this to work. Gonnym (talk) 23:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused metatemplate; templates can test for missing parameters fine without it. User:GKFXtalk 22:58, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template that does something #ifexpr can do quite straightforwardly if ever required. E.g.: {{#ifexpr: floor(x) = x|...}}. User:GKFXtalk 22:52, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Test page which I presume has been finished with as it was last edited 2019. User:GKFXtalk 22:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and not particularly clear preload template for new user pages. It is used only at User:Przykuta/Welcome, which as far as I can tell is broken. Not edited in over ten years. User:GKFXtalk 22:20, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:50, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused emoji template. Per WP:CIVIL, I doubt that there are many legitimate uses of this template; it's not going to contribute to a rational discussion. People can, of course, type any emojis they want without templates on most modern devices. User:GKFXtalk 22:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm wondering if this is part of a larger set of emoji wrapper templates, or if there was a particular reason for it in particular. The edit comment on the initial creation indicates there's a larger context here. This TfD seems to be premature without asking those basic questions. Waiting for User:SMcCandlish for some of those answers. VanIsaac, MPLL contWpWS 23:06, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Vanisaac: The larger context, as far as I know, is User:Legoktm/Puke and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 February 28#Template:Puke. I didn’t feel that the previous template was particularly relevant to the current template so I didn’t mention it initially. User:GKFXtalk 23:32, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
People seem to really not like puke templates. Dunno why. Legoktm (talk) 02:31, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There are so many ways an editor can type a simple emoji. This is one of the things that does not need a template. Other emoji templates in the same category can also be deleted for the same reason. Gonnym (talk) 23:41, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Makes me wonder if there shouldn't just be a general emoji template that would generate a character from one of these aliases as the first parameter. I would much rather see one general use emoji template than dozens of specialized ones that beg all of these kinds of questions. VanIsaac, MPLL contWpWS 04:54, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really see the point of that: all phones, Windows 10 (⊞ Win+.), and Mac OS all have emoji pickers built in nowadays. User:GKFXtalk 11:49, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with GKFX here. In 2022 it is very simple to find an emoji to use that templates are really not needed. Gonnym (talk) 08:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:46, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused subtemplates of Template:Citation. "book quick" is no longer necessary due to the performance enhancements from WP:Lua-based citation templates; the rest are just obsolete subtemplates. User:GKFXtalk 21:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Template is back in use; thanks @User:Trappist the monk. (non-admin closure) User:GKFXtalk 23:43, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused citation template for a single PDF document. User:GKFXtalk 21:48, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This template was created as a preventative against Naval History and Heritage Command changing the url of this source; see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Archive 136 § Fighter Squadron Lineage URL is toast. In that discussion you will see that another editor wrote that they would use this template to replace the (at the time) 65 instances of the dead url.
That did not happen.
So, I have updated {{cite vf lineage}} to use Module:template wrapper and replaced the 67 dead-linked templates with {{cite vf lineage}}. Having done that, I think that this tfd should be withdrawn.
Trappist the monk (talk) 23:41, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:45, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused/outdated sub-template of Template:Cite news's documentation. User:GKFXtalk 21:46, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Long-outdated subtemplate of the documentation page of {{cite web}}. Subst and delete. User:GKFXtalk 21:44, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:49, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A template to help subst citation templates. People should not be substing citation templates because it makes the citations considerably harder to edit. My understanding is that citation templates rendered very slowly before WP:Lua so wanting to subst them is probably a relic of that era. User:GKFXtalk 21:38, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused subtemplates of citation templates, presumably obsoleted by the switch to Module:Citation/CS1. User:GKFXtalk 21:12, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

replaced by {{adjacent stations}} system Frietjes (talk) 20:40, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 00:01, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Single-use weather box templates (A–C)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

single-use weather box templates, per numerous prior discussions, these should be merged with the transcluding article and deleted. we have thousands of weatherboxes in thousands of articles, and the convention is that we put them in a separate template only when they are transcluded in more than one article. Frietjes (talk) 18:50, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Frietjes if the size of the nom is an issue, what we usually do is place them on a sub-page. So something like Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 December 24/weather boxes. Gonnym (talk) 19:58, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
sure, that's an option. I also don't want to overload people who want to check each of these, e.g. the very helpful comment above. but, if people think it would be better to push them all through at once, I can add the other 200 to the list. Frietjes (talk) 20:20, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have created the subpage linked above in order to help prevent the TFD page from exceeding the PEIS limit, which it is currently doing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Subst and delete all (pending additional comments). At the time of my comment I've verified that all are single used except Template:Camborne weatherbox which is used in a user's sandbox about a different town so per the same argument Nigej gave it should just be removed from it; and Template:Columbia, South Carolina weatherbox which is used in another templates which itself isn't used. Also, please actually delete them this time and not redirect to the page, as last time another editor (User:CaradhrasAiguo) restored a lot of them. Gonnym (talk) 00:09, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:11, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template. Gonnym (talk) 15:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:13, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only 1 link, superfluous: both the municipality and town refer to each other already. P 1 9 9   14:02, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:07, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template. Gonnym (talk) 12:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete basically just a wrapper around #expr, not necessary and would be unclear if used. User:GKFXtalk 21:40, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:09, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above are all simple single-use tables that are only used at New York City Subway nomenclature . The templates should be subst and deleted. Gonnym (talk) 10:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:04, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused line maps sub-templates. Gonnym (talk) 10:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Romania political party color templates

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:02, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above templates are all unused Romania political party color templates. Some of which I've replaced with Module:Political party templates. Gonnym (talk) 09:46, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Added 2 more that've missed. Gonnym (talk) 07:33, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 10:58, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused Japan political party shading templates. Gonnym (talk) 09:22, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 10:58, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused Canada political party color templates. Gonnym (talk) 09:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Category 5 typhoon" is not an entity recognized by the RSMC. 2001 is also too arbitrary of a cutoff. Jasper Deng (talk) 00:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak delete as Cat 1 2 3 4 5 are unofficial categories, but in JMA, the highest scale is Typhoon, which is too many. I don't discuss about the logs for deletion, but Saffir-Simpson scale is only true in hurricanes. Thingofme (talk) 02:52, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rework - This is where the international tropical cyclone category system, used by the JMA on behalf of the Typhoon Committee falls down as it does not account for systems above typhoon intensity. However, it should be noted that typhoons are commonly compared to the SSHWS by reliable sources using windspeeds from the JTWC, as a result, I'm not so sure that this template shouldn't exist along with the relevant list article even if it is supposedly unofficial. As a result, I feel that some expansion, a rename to Category 5 super typhoons and a bit of TLC, this template would be worth it.Jason Rees (talk) 21:17, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I mostly agree with Jason Rees' view; however, I also understand that the SSHWS is not official in the Western Pacific basin. Furthermore, there are no templates for the other SSHWS categories in the Western Pacific. I would have suggested that this should be re-categorized to the "Very Strong Typhoon" and "Violent Typhoon" subcategories that JMA use in their tropical cyclone advisories and forecasts, but I am not sure if those subcategories appear in their archives. Vida0007 (talk) 20:51, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Comment: Template:Infobox tropical cyclone small has category 5, so this navbox seems a valid grouping. Gonnym (talk) 14:33, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Q28 (talk) 06:34, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This template is not used, We should delete it !! Q28 (talk) 04:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Based on this search, I think this might still be actively used (though not all that much), but it's substituted on every use. It's currently recommended by Wikipedia:Typo Team/moss#Instructions for editors. If I remember correctly, someone asked me to make it; I personally use {{typo help inline}} instead. -- Beland (talk) 04:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:25, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is no longer used, and the test is basically over. Q28 (talk) 04:25, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't need it anymore. Okay to delete. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 00:08, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:25, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The template is not in use and may be corrupted. Q28 (talk) 04:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 December 31. plicit 04:25, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:25, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this template is not used, so delete it. Q28 (talk) 04:19, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:09, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

US [and other countries'] political party shading templates that no longer have any transclusions after migrations to {{Political party}}. No transclusions or incoming links. Q28 (talk) 04:09, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all the Spanish ones (the /letter ones) and the color/block ones. Template:Party shading/Documentation template/example should be handled with Template:Party shading/Documentation template which itself seems to be unused. Gonnym (talk) 09:01, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This template is no longer used because … well I don't know. Q28 (talk) 03:47, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no transclusions and no usage when searching for insouce:"Topic status/GA". User:GKFXtalk 09:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The template is not used, and that's what we are. Q28 (talk) 03:46, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unused. User:GKFXtalk 09:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:43, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay, this template is not used. Q28 (talk) 03:41, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:43, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The template is not used! haha! Q28 (talk) 03:39, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:43, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused templates. Okay, so here we go. Q28 (talk) 03:38, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 09:05, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it, because it is not used. Q28 (talk) 03:37, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Q28 (talk) 09:30, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We still don't see the use of this template, so it should be removed. Q28 (talk) 03:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, this template is no longer in use, so it should be deleted._ Q28 (talk) 02:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:45, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, this template is no longer in use, so it should be deleted._ Q28 (talk) 02:18, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:45, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, this template is no longer in use, so it should be deleted._ Q28 (talk) 02:16, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:53, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unused with only two links to articles. Fails navigation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:32, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep for now. Nicely constructed navbox with potential for use; deletion would be a waste of the time put into making it. It possibly(?) shouldn’t appear in articles until there’s more blue links, and should be deleted eventually if those articles don’t get written. User:GKFXtalk 09:10, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WP:HARDWORK is not a valid reason for retaining a template. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:05, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This navbox is only used on one page, and only contains two links. This does not in any way provide useful navigation; why not ditch the clutter and add a see also from 2018 Yap elections to 2022 Chuukese independence referendum if that link is deemed useful. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:05, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, but allow for recreation if a couple more articles are written. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:55, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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